Ti einai to haskell? (Htan: RE: Off-topic)

[Makis Saridis]

Christos Ricudis wrote:
>h ML egine requirement gia to project gia to sobaro kai spoudaiotato logo
oti
>aplws yphrxe, kai skefthkan oti afou yparxei, ara kapoios prepei kai na th
>xrhsimopoihsei. Sto katw katw aytoi poy skeftontai ta requirements aplws
>skeftontai ta requirements, aytoi poy ta ylopoioyn einai oi sklaboi :>.


<mpixth>
...kai oi sklaboi fysika einai oi teleytaioi pou prepei
na ekfrasoun th gnwmh tous, otan malista prokeitai gia
kapoio 8ema pou den tous afora :>
</mpixth>

> MS> Posous kseroles sysadmins-programmers (kai oxi mono)
> MS> gnwrizeis pou na kseroun-kai-na-asxolountai
> MS> energa me lambda-calculus?
>
>Eytyxws elaxistous, alla den exw koitaksei akoma stis psyxiatrikes pteryges
twn
>nosokomeiwn.


(diabase ti grafw pio katw)

> MS> Mia pou to efere i koubenta to project pou ksekinises
> MS> se ML to teleiwses i to parathses kai gyrises sta
> MS> palia kala limeria tou imperative programmatismou?
>
>To kako me sas toys functional-ades einai oti nomizete oti ta projects
prepei
>na exoyn mia arxh, mia mesh kai ena telos, me ta tria ayta kommatia na
yparxoyn
>pantote, kai synh8ws me th sygkekrimenh seira :>


(again: diabase ti grafw pio katw)

> MS> oxi pesmou diladi 8es n' arxisw na apari8mw ta
> MS> meion tou imperative programmatismou? OXI PESMOU :>
>
>H alh8eia einai oti to braxykyklwma poy sou prokalei h enasxolhsh me
imperative
>glwsses einai ekplhktiko - polemhsa poly gia na to katapolemhsw sto ligo
xrono


(WoW! girls, Hercules!!! :)

>poy asxolh8hka me lambda-calculus kai ML. Telika sxedon ta katafera,  kai
mporw
>na pw oti eniwsa ekplhktika aneta. Den einai tyxaio poy ta klassika
computer
>science courses arxizan panta me lisp h forth. Shmera arxizoyn me Java.
Shmadia
>twn kairwn? :/


Prwta ap' ola DEN eimai functional-as. Alla me peirakse to gegonos oti
8a mporouses na eixes apanthsei sto proigoumeno email oti...

"ksereis bre aderfe kai 'gw ksekinisa ena project sxetiko me FL (to monadiko
sth zwh mou) kai katelikse se apotyxia eite mallon epeidh EGW eimai asxetos
eite epeidh DEN katalaba kala kala pws-pou-kai-pote paizetai to paixnidi
eite
giati DEN einai h douleia mou ayth." (To teleytaio einai kai to pio pi8ano.)
Para na kaneis copy&paste thn prwth kritikh pou brikes sto inet gia na
prokaleseis entypwsh kai na noiwseis kalitera (asfaleia) :>

Oi FLs dhmiourgh8hkan gia kapoio sygkekrimeno skopo pou einai
<bold>entelws</bold> axrhstos (kai polles fores mh katanohtos) se sas tous
sysadmins. Don't you get it?

Ws anafora twra sthn Java pou eipes, kat' eme oi logoi pou shmera mpainei
prwth
glwssa DEN exoun na kanoun m'ayto pou ennoeis, alla epeidh einai(relatively)
eykolh
glwssa, einai OO (15 xronia twra o OO programmatismos exei kanei 8aymata),
einai
standard--so texts and APIs all work kai telos it's (increasingly) supported
by
textbooks.
Twra fysika eksartatai poia ennoeis klassika CS Depts. Giati an ennoeis tis
elladas tote mallon makran apexeis tis pragmatikotitos... an ennoeis tou
ekswterikou tote sou diefyge h ekshs leptomeria; didaskoun...
OO Design and Implementation with Java KAI Functional Programming and Logic
both sto prwto etos :>

Makis

>--
>Christos Ricudis




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