ΑΠ: sourceforge (was RE: Paidia kati parakseno:)

[Xenitellis S]

> -----Αρχικό μήνυμα-----
> Από: I.Ioannou [mailto:roryt at hol.gr]
> Αποστολή: Τρίτη, 31 Οκτωβρίου 2000 11:36 πμ
> Προς: linux-greek-users at hellug.gr
> Θέμα: Re: sourceforge (was RE: Paidia kati parakseno:)
> 
> 
> dimitris kamenopoulos wrote:
> > 
> > epirramata (aglisti "patches"). Kala, i leksi "balwmata" ti exei?
> Diorthwseis ?
> > Me tetoia ka8arevousa 8a vazoyme oloi agglika minimata gia 
> na mi frikaroume.
> > Fysika den ftaiei o metafrastis, kai ta sxolia mou den 
> einai kakovoula. Ti
> > "moda" tis ili8ias ka8arevousas tin exei ksekinisei i kali 
> mas M$, kai oi
> > asteioi syntaktes periodikwn opws to RAM.
> 
> To lathos (kai to kanoume kai emeis sto Hellug nomizw) einai
> oti tis metafraseis den tis kanoun epaggelmaties metafrastes
> me gnwseis computer. Etyxe kai edeixna tis metafraseis tis M$
> kai tou sourceforge me atomo me master stin metafrasi kai 
> gnwstis PC kai gelage mia wra.
> 
> (pantws na poume kai toy strabou to dikio, o Alexis exei
> dikio, kala kanane sto sourgeforge)

Prepei na omologisw oti htan arketa diaskedastikes oi 
antidraseis pou akolou8isan to arxiko gramma tou Haralamboy.
Kai ayto to lew eilikrina.

Prin anafer8w sto zitoumeno, 8a ithela na kanw mia eisagvgi.
Antilipsi, i alliws perception sta ellinika.
Esto oti exeis ena gorila se ena kloubi kai mesa se afto yparxei ena
kokkino koumpi ston toixo. Otan to pataei o gorilas, peftei mia mpanana.
O gorilas, olon ton kairo pou briskete sto kloubi den "skeftike"
na patisei to koumpi. Oi paratirites kanoun sxolia:
"Ma kala, malakas einai o gorilas;", "exei kai polla pragmata
na kanei sto kloubi, ama den to patisei 8a pe8anei ths peinas".

To problima einai stin antilipsi. O an8ropos exei empeiries apo 
katastaseis pou otan patas ena koumpi, ginetai kati. O gorilas
sti zougkla jerei polla apo koumpia. 
To problima einai oti o an8ropos den prospa8ei na skeftei
opos skeftetai o gorilas, stin sygkekrimeni katastasi.
O an8ropos skeftete opos o an8ropos gia th 8esi tou gorila.


Na girisoume stis metafraseis stin elliniki glvssa. 
To zitoumeno einai na yparxoun antistoixoi oroi plhroforikis sta
ellinika gia tous basikous orous pliroforikis tvn agglikvn. 
Epishs, ta periballonta ergasias (grafika periballonta GNOME/KDE/klp)
na exoun mia sobari ellinopoiimeni ekdosi.

- Ta ellinika einai mia apo tis epishmes glvsses tis EE (evropaiki enwsi).
- Ta ellinika omilountai apo panw apo 10 ekatomyria atoma pagkosmiws.

To poso shmantiko einai i ellinopoiisi einai 8ema antilipsis.

Oson afora to epipedo tvn metafrasevn tis Microsoft kai tou Sourceforge,
	- tin ellinopoiisi tvn proiontvn tis MS den tin kanei i idia i MS. 
	Sygkekrimena, oso gnvrizw, tin ellinopoiisi tvn perissotervn (olwn?)
	tvn ekdosevn tin exei kanei mia elliniki etairia pou onomazete
	Archetypon. Exoun kai ena WWW site, to www.archetypon.gr, kai apo
oti 
	leei, den kanoun mono metafraseis.
	Prwsopika eimai efxaristimenos apo tin poiotita tvn metafrasevn
aftvn.
	Arage na dia8etoun elefthera kai to lejiko orvn pliroforikis
elefthera; 
	Jerei kaneis tin parapanw etairia;
	- gia to SourceForge, an yparxoun orthografika/syntaktika sfalmata, 
	kalo einai na stal8ei e-mail sto nls at tux.hellug.gr.

Oson afora to epipedo tvn metafrastvn genikws, 8a ithela to hellug 
na kanei kiniseis outws wste na erthei se epafi me ekeinous tous
"epaggelmaties"
metafrastes me gnvseis "computer" kai na synexisoun tis metafraseis.

Gia na min kleisw to gramma etsi, na kanw mia "souma". 
	- Oi metafraseis einai zoriko pragma.
	- Yparxei mikro men endiaferon, ostoso den exei synexeia meta tis
prwtes
	diskolies (opws ta perissotera peri tou Linux).
	- De mporoume na perimenoume tin "politeia" na endiafer8ei apo moni
ths.
	- Yparxoun glwsses me mikrotero koino kai mikroteri ypostiriji exoun
megalyteri
	parousia apo tin elliniki.
	- <svistike>
	
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