LINUX-GREEK-USERS? was (Re : linux-GREEK-users?)

Giorgos Keramidas keramida at ceid.upatras.gr
Fri Oct 27 10:54:44 EEST 2000


On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 06:13:43PM +0300, Giorgos Pallas wrote:
> Omos, apo tote pou egine sti lista auto pou me to reply to mail paei
> by def se auton pou to esteile, i kinisi sti lista exei pesei ta
> malla. Kai eroto, gia deka xiliades bytes ti mera aksizei na ginetai
> auti i douleia...

Epeidi hmoun ki ego sta atoma pou proteinan na ginei h allagh, ofeilw na
dwsw ejhghseis pisteuo sto giati to na peirazei o majordomo to Reply-To
den einai ki oti kalutero.

An to Reply-To deixnei panta stin lista, tote einai polu pio eukolo na
apanthsei kapoios se mail pou tha itan kalutero na steilei ena proswpiko
mail kai na teleionoume, kai na steilei tin apantisi se oli ti lista.
Den ekatsa na kano kai statistika gia to posa apo ta threads pou htan
proswpikoi 'polemoi' tora exoun ejafanistei, h oxi. Se pragmata,
omws, pou einai pio eukolo na jeka8aristoun proswpika, kai na mhn
ginei o gnwstos tzertzeles sth lista me ta ekato asxeta mail pou sthn
pragmatikothta mporouse aneta na antikatasthsei ena thread duo-triwn
proswpikwn mail (nai to exo kanei prosfata me atomo pou diafonisame stin
l.g.u alla den theorisame oti h sunexeia aforouse kai th lista), akoma
pisteuo oti to gegonos pws to Reply-To edeixne ston pragmatiko apostolea
ki oxi tin lista boh8hse kapws.

P.x. poios thymatai to sxolio mou sto source.gr?  H sunexeia tou thread,
pou to diko mou sxolio htan ontws parejhghsimo, egine se teleios
proswpiko epipedo, kai mia xara ta brhkame meta metaju mas.  Kai an
h8ela h ego, h opoiosdhpote allos, mporousame na kanoume 'reply-to-list'
anti gia 'reply-to-sender' me thn idia eukolia pou steilame o enas
ston allo mail.  Enw an to Reply-To htan sti lista, tote *ola* ta mail
pou stelname metaju mas eprepe na allazoume emeis me to xeri to reply
address.

Afhste ton mailer sas na kanei tin douleia pou kanete me to xeri twra.
Mathete na xrhsimopoieite to reply-to-sender kai reply-to-list san duo
diaforetika pragmata.  Den endiaferoun tin lista *ola* ta replies sas,
alla sigoura kapoia pragmata pou metaju duo-triwn atomwn mporoun na
suzhth8oun giati autoi theloun na milhsoun gia kati den einai ligotero
shmantika gia autous.  "Gia autous" omws.. Oxi panta gia tin lista.

Xrhsimopoieiste tin kritikh sas skepsh gia na deite an to mail pou tha
steilete endiaferei mono to atomo sto opoio thelete na apanthsete h
oloklhrh th lista kai xrhsimopoieiste ton katallhlo tropo gia na kanete
reply.  To na eisa eleytheros na dialekseis an tha apanthseis mono se
auton pou egrapse to arxiko mail, h se olh th lista -- auth h extra
eleytheria pou sou dinei to na mhn sou epiballei o majordomo ena
sugkekrimeno reply-to address -- thelei kai tin aparaithth skepsh kai
wrimothta prin to xrhsimopoihseis me ton tropo pou tou armozei.
Alla etsi einai panta otidhpote mas aujanei tin eleytheria kinhsewn.
Mas thetei kai se mia pio ypey8ynh thesi, kai apaitei ligo parapano
skepsh se kathe praksh mas.

: Oxi den eimai oute to paizo listarxos, apla tin gnomh mou lew, ki an
: telika auth diaferei apo tin pleiopshfia ths listas, eimai sigouros
: oti teleios dhmokratika o pragmatikos listarxos tha kanei oti thelei
: kai den pa' na ton prhzoume oso theloume. Autos jerei kalutera.

Kai gia na pame kai se pio xeiropiasta themata, tha deite oti to mail,
parolo pou pathsa 'g' sto Mutt mou gia na to kano reply feugei mono pros
th lista.  Den einai da kai tipota duskolo.  To egrapsa.  To janadiabasa,
gia na do an akoma sumfono me auta pou egrapsa duo lepta prin. Bghka apo
ton editor mou.  Apofasisa oti mono sth lista thelw na to steilw.
Pathsa to magiko 'E' anti gia to klassiko 'e' pou stin othoni tou Mutt
mou kanei edit to mail me *ola* tou ta headers.  Esbhsa to To: ston
Giorgo Palla.  Allaksa to Cc: linux-greek-users se To: linux-greek-users.
Kai nato to mail.

Telika den einai kai toso duskolo.  Oute xreiazetai periplokes kinhseis
copy/paste me to GPM, h opws alliws lene to mouse driver ths konsolas
sas.  Einai thema poso exei mathei kaneis na xrhsimopoiei to programma
pou diabazei/stelnei ta mail tou.

Autaaa.

- giorgos

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