ΑΠ: sourceforge (was RE: Paidia kati parakseno:)

[dimitris kamenopoulos]

> Na girisoume stis metafraseis stin elliniki glvssa. 
> To zitoumeno einai na yparxoun antistoixoi oroi plhroforikis sta
> ellinika gia tous basikous orous pliroforikis tvn agglikvn. 

sta ellinika ta zwntana poy katalavainei o kosmos. Otan leme oloi "katevasma",
pou einai ellinikotati kai wraiotati kai perigrafikotati leksi, kai en genei
kollaei teleia par' olo poy den einai akrivis metafrasi toy "download", moy
fainetai oti to  "metafortwsi" einai epieikws ektos topou kai xronou. 
Ena allo xontro la8os pou egine apo tin arxi itan i metafrasi toy File se
"Arxeio", kai toy "Folder" se "Fakelos". Giati tote to Archive pws metafrazetai?
Den 8a itan pio swsto to "File"->"Fakelos", "Folder"->"Dosie",
"Archive"->"Arxeio"? Oi fakeloi mpainoun se dosie, kai ola afta mazi sta
arxeia. Twra dystyxws epikratise to "Arxeio" gia to "File" kai meiname xwris
leksi gia to "Archive" (kai mi mou peite "sympiesmeno arxeio" giati yparxei kai
to "compressed file" sto unix, pou einai proion tis entolis gzip i bzip, kai
yparxoyn kai ta ".tar archives" pou den einai akrivws sympiesmena).
Diais8anomai oti oli afti i fasaria egine giati kapoiou karagiozi ka8igiti 20
xronia prin toy fainontousan "malliares" oi lekseis "Fakelos" kai "Dosie" kai
protimouse ti sovarofani leksi "Arxeio". Kai afti i tasi tis anagwgis aplwn,
praktikotatwn agglikwn orwn se ka8arevousianika sovarofani terata de nomizw pws
einai pros ofelos tou ELLINOFWNOU xristi.

> Epishs, ta periballonta ergasias (grafika periballonta GNOME/KDE/klp)
> na exoun mia sobari ellinopoiimeni ekdosi.
To KDE exei.

> - Ta ellinika einai mia apo tis epishmes glvsses tis EE (evropaiki enwsi).
> - Ta ellinika omilountai apo panw apo 10 ekatomyria atoma pagkosmiws.
Panw apo 15  (isws kai 17) gia tin akriveia

> To poso shmantiko einai i ellinopoiisi einai 8ema antilipsis.
Fysika kai einai simantikotati. Egw toylaxiston 8a eixa egatalipsei teleiws to
linux  an den evriska mia oasi filikotitas sto KDE1.x me tis metafraseis toy
Soldatou.

> Oson afora to epipedo tvn metafrasevn tis Microsoft kai tou Sourceforge,
> 	- tin ellinopoiisi tvn proiontvn tis MS den tin kanei i idia i MS. 
> 	Prwsopika eimai efxaristimenos apo tin poiotita tvn metafrasevn
> aftvn.

Egw den eimai. Tis vriskw ypervolika ksylines kai aproswpes. Exw tin entipwsi
oti par' olo pou ta rimata kai ta ousiastika den klinontai (toso poly) opws sta
ellinika, o Amerikanos xristis otan leei File->Open ennoei "Anoikse to arxeio"
kai oxi "Anoigma Arxeio". Otan leei "Cancel" ennoei "AkyrwsE" kai oxi
"Akyrwsi". Yparxei mia pio amesi epikoinwnia, enas dialogos me to mixanima kai
telika to perivallon einai poly pio filiko.
Fysika sta ellinika yparxei to provlima oti to "Open" mporei na simainei
"Anoixte (Prostaktiki)", "Anoigete (Enestwtas)", "Anoigw", "Anoikse",
"Anoigoyme", i akoma akoma kai na kollaei kai afto to "Anoigma" kalytera.
Epeidi 8elei poly kopo, kai diarkes testing twn metafrasewn me tis efarmoges
gia na diapistwseis ti kollaei, oi metafrastes tis MS protimisan ti lysi twn
ousiastikopoiimenwn rimatwn ("Anoigma", "Apothikefsi" kok). Voliki lysi, alla
oxi epaggelmatiki kai telika oute swsti gia tin elliniki glwssa, stin opoia
klinoume ousiastika kai epi8eta. Vevaia kai egw sto KDE2, tin idia lysi
akolou8isa sxedon pantou, af' enos giati ligo poly einai pia to standard kai
af' eterou giati den eixa ti dynatotita na elegxw tis metafraseis moy me tis
telikes efarmoges. Skopevw omws stadiaka na perasw se ligotero ksylini glwssa,
an vevaia symfwnisei o kosmos, kai panw se afto 8elw gnwmes. 
Se ka8e periptwsi, elliniko perivallon, estw kai kakometafrasmeno einai
kalytero apo to tipota, aplos anarwtiemai an boroume na apofygoume kapoia la8i
pou ginan sta Win, afou mas dinetai i efkairia. Kai se ka8e periptwsi ta
istorika "Dimiourgia Fakelos" kai "Dimiourgia Syntomefsi" itan megales bourdes.

> 	Arage na dia8etoun elefthera kai to lejiko orvn pliroforikis
> elefthera; 
Poly amfivallw. Pantws leksika yparxoyn, alla ap' oso kserw i metafrasi den
ginetai me aplo koitagma sto leksiko. Allou einai i magia, poy tin exoun oi
epaggelmaties.

> 	- gia to SourceForge, an yparxoun orthografika/syntaktika sfalmata, 
> 	kalo einai na stal8ei e-mail sto nls at tux.hellug.gr.

Pantws ta la8i einai en8rwpina. Egw sto KDE2 prepei na exw panw apo 500
baroufes, tis opoies poly apla den prolavainw na dior8vsw. To pio xontro ap'
ola (gia to opoio drepomai aperiorista :-(    ) einai pou to shell to exw
metafrasei "kelyfos" anti gia to ka8ierwmeno "floios" se kamia 20aria simeia.

> 	- De mporoume na perimenoume tin "politeia" na endiafer8ei apo moni
> ths.

H politeia exei vrei ti lysi. Vazei agglika WinNT sta panepistimia kai isixazei.

> 	- Yparxoun glwsses me mikrotero koino kai mikroteri ypostiriji exoun
> megalyteri
> 	parousia apo tin elliniki.
Kai fysika 8a eprepe na paradeigmatistoume ligaki.
Sorry gia to giagantio mail.
Dimitris