polytonika kai ismini

Antonis Tsolomitis atsol1 at iris.math.aegean.gr
Sat Apr 1 19:09:07 EEST 2000


> 
> OK apo polytonika den ta paw kai poly kala, apla to proteina ws anafora ;)

Dekto, alla ama to avoikseis va to deis 0a katalabeis oti oute
gia auto dev kavei. Kai egw etsi vomiza. Malista to eipa stov Boura,
va doume to ismini ws avafora. Alla dev vomizw telika oti eivai
katallnlo...

> 
> To shmantikotero apo ola!
> Toylaxiston mexris wtoy bgoyn sth fora ta unicode, kati prepei na ginei.
> Alh9eia, oi Magenta grammatoseires ( & Co.) pws exoyn ta polytonika;

Ela vte? Dev exei kaveis kamia va mas pei...

> 
> Mporei na exei problhmata genika h M$, alla 9eloyme 'h oxi merikes fores
> ka9ierwnei ta standard.
> As mh 3exname pws ta polytonika h Magenta (an den kanw la9os) <<ka9orise>>
> tis 9eseis toys ki an ontws den exoyn kanei xontres patates 9a protina na
> to krathsoyme.
> To na ftiaxnoyme standards panw se standards de nomizw pws einai o,ti
> kalytero.

Oxi, dev lew oti lew gia logous avtipa0eias gia tnv MS.
Alla pws va to kavoume dev mporoume va dextoume tis xovtrades
pou kavouv. Na eksngn0w: Pws grafoume iota me tovo kai dialytika
sto Word? Apavtnsn: Patame Alt+Control+tovo kai meta iota.
Egw ayto to 0ewrw evtelws afysiko kai aparadekto kai eimai
eytyxns pou kai o Giavvns o Tsakirns kai o Dnmntrns o Mpouras
eftiaksav ta plnktrologia tous va paragouv to ev logw gramma
me tnv fysiologikn akolou0ia (tovos dialytika iota).

Gia auto to logo eimai sigouros oti ta Windows 0a exouv 
apeira alt control alt kai ksavapali alt gia va grapseis
eva pveuma (dev eimai kai sigouros bebaia, ypo0esn kavw).

Gia auto loipov pisteuw oti dev prepei va dextoume 
"standards" pou dev exouv prokypsei apo skepsn alla
apo douleia tou podiou.

O tropos grafns sto Babel dev eivai tyxaios. Oi av0rwpoi
epeleksav to pio fysiologiko (=auto pou grafouv oloi me to xeri)
dnladn >`a bgazei alpha me psiln kai bareia.

Ama arxisoume ta Alt kai kse Alt tns MS dev 0a kavoume sobarn douleia.

Telos ama kaveis 0elei va grafei polytovika sto Linux mallov
exei afnsei poly pisw tou tnv MS gia va divei snmasia sta "standards" tns.


> Epanalmbanw: 3erei kaneis ti ginete me tis yparxoyses non-unicode
> grammatoseires;

Egw oxi ektos apo tov pivaka tou Babel.

> Proswpika pisteyw pws <<LaTeX kai 3ero pswmi>>.
> Dystyxws omws den mpoeris na toys peiseis olous :(

Oxi dev 0elw va peisw kaveva. Apla to Babel eivai 
ndn eva standard. Giati oxi?

> yparxei mexri stigmhs. To babel einai OK alla exei allh fylosofia pisw toy
> (dhl. na krathsei to keimeno se 7-bit) enw emas mas noiazoyn lyseis 8-bit.

La0os. To Babel xrnsimopoiei oles tns 0eseis tou 256 pivaka
dnladn $2^8$ dnladn dev eivai 7-bit-o. Alliws dev 0a xwrousav
ola ta polytovika se eva pivaka (metrnse ta va deis).



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