Case Root: Forgotten !!
Kostas Gewrgiou
gewrgiou at imbc.gr
Tue Nov 23 23:48:10 EET 1999
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Michalis Kabrianis wrote:
> On 23-Nov-99 Kostas Gewrgiou wrote:
> >
> > Apo oso thymamai h redhat ypostirizei oti to password sto init 1 einai
> > axristo
> > (kai den exoun katholou adiko tha elega).
> >
> Egw tha elega oti exoun adiko. Koita to man page tou init pou esteila sto prwto
> mail. To na allazeis tin default symperifora kapoiwn pragmatwn standard se
> (opws eipe o Ricoudis) ola ta SysV EINAI lathos.
>
> > Gia skepsouto ligo, to oti boreis na kaneis sto lilo init=/bin/bash anti na
> > init 1 sou prosferei ta idia kai den proketai pote na sou zitisi password.
> > Opote pros ti to password sto init 1 ? ti sou prosferei parapano apo mia
> > pseutiki idea security ?
> >
>
> As min ksexname oti to init=/bin/bash einai bug kai oxi feature, etsi?
> To opoio simainei oti ana pasa stigmi mporei na afairethei apo to lilo.
Oxi den einai katholou bug einai feature kai den exei kamia sxesi me
to lilo, to lilo opos kai to milo/silo/quik/bootx pernane to ola ta arguments
ston kernel. Einai feature tou kernel rikse mia matia sto linux/init/main.c
> Eksallou, mporeis na baleis (an fobasai gia to security mesw lilo) to lilo na
> min perimenei katholou (kai tote den mporeis na to stamatiseis gia na tou
> dwseis options)
>
> > Pio sosto fisika einai na baleis password sto lilo pou tote to na sou
> > ksanazitaei password to init 1 einai ektos apo redundant kai spasimo
> > neuron.
>
> Oxi, giati einai allo password to ena kai allo to allo (kai eksypiretoun
> diaforetikous skopous. To init einai meros tou systimatos, to lilo oxi)
>
> >
> > To solaris pou den exei kati analogo tou init=/bin/bash kala kanei kai
> > vazei password alla sigrineis dio diaforetika pragmata.....
>
> Les? Sygkrinw 2 Unix, SysV. Mou moiazoun arketa idia. H, gia na to pw alliws,
> den eimai sigouros oti to MILO (as poume) exei to idio "feature" pou exei kai
> to lilo me to init=/bin/bash. Kai, epanalambanw, to LILO avrio methavrio mporei
> na allaksei, na aposyrthei, na fygei, na diorthwthei. To init mallon
> apokleietai.
>
Tora den ksero ean boroume na poume to Linux SysV kai ean thymamai kala
kapote to solaris den rotage gia password se single user alla h mnimi mou den
einai kai idieteris ebistosineis.
To na allaksei to lilo den proketai na allaksei tipota yparxoun kai mixanimata
(opos o mac mou) pou boroun na fortosoun kateuthian ton kernel kai profanos
oti orismata doseis pernane ston kernel.
Telos panton den exei noima h sizitisi epi tou thematos nomizo,
opou kai na kataliksoume h redhat tha sinexisei na kanei auto pou
apofasise edo kai kairo.
Kostas Gewrgiou
>
> Michalis Kabrianis
> kabrianis at hellug.gr
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