cracker vs hacker & mega & .....

[Theodore J. Soldatos]

melon wrote:
> 
> hi folks

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> 
> apla thelo na episimano merika simia pou mou tin barane poli asxima kai
> exigoume.
> 
> tin ekpompi distixos den tin eida (to mega den ekpempei uk :( ) alla
> pisteuo pos oti ki an edixne tha itan ena tolmiro bima gia elliniki tv.
> den pisteuo na perimene kaneis na dixnoun kapion na asxolite me "social
> engineering" kai na analiei ta "tcp finger-prints". mia ekpompi se tv

Ma nai, giati na mhn ekshghsei ti einai to social engineering ? Ti diaolo,
pyrhnikh fysikh einai??? Na mathei o luser na mh kollaei to gamh*no to password
se post-it pano sthn othonh?????

> apeuthinete se olous kai OXI MONO stous moiimenous. tha sas areze na
> blepate mia ekpompi gia tis maures tripes kai to diastima pou na
> xrisipoei pure scientific terms? mallon oxi gia tous perisoterous.

Oxi, alla tha mou arese na do mia ekpomph pou na mh leei malakies, na exei
diavasei merikes dekades sxetika documents sto diktyo, na exei akriveia stous
orous (na mh mperdeyei hackers me crackers) kai na mh thysiazei thn
dhmosiografikh akriveia sto bomo ton dhmosion sxeseon, fernontas dhmosiosxesites
kai polhtes na milhsoun gia ena thema texniko kai hthiko - giati os gnoston, h
leksh "hthikh" einai agnosth se ayta ta epaggelmata.

> 
> tora oso gia crackers kai hackers, autos pou kanei anothorised access se
> ena sistima einai enas cracker sigoura. me ton oro cracker fernoume sto
> mialo mas kati to arnitiko, pios pisteuei omos oti einai kalo na
> isbaleis se xena ipoligistika sistimata?

Kanenas, ektos apo kati paidakia pou kapote tha megalosoun. 

> 
> ti hacker ethics kai mparoufes? auta einai dikeologies... as fero to
<snip>
> katadikastei.

Den einai mparoufes, ante diavase to Jargon File
(http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/) kai to Voices from the Open Source
Revolution (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/) kai meta ela na mou
milhseis gia hacker ethics. Epeidh exeis pesei thyma ths idias paraplhroforhshs
den shmainei oti mporeis na prosvaleis kosmo me eksypnadoules.

> 
> oso gia asfalia m$win, nomizo oti edo astieuomaste... to linux kerdizei
<snip>
> sou elega pou eixan gramena ta nt.

Apanththike hdh poly kala. Kala, esy hrthes edo na skorpiseis Microsoft FUD?

> 
> auta eixa na grapso, prin steilei mail kapios as skeftei oti tin ora pou
> kanei send ena script-kiddy exei remote access sto box sou me ta daktila
> etima gia ''rm -rf /''.

Nai, ki o Elvis einai zontanos kai ton aphgagan eksoghinoi... 

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> 
> o egoismos tou kainouriou linouxa arxizei kai brazei.

???
<snip>

> sorry an prokalo, merikes skepseis ekfrazo
> free kevin, m$ sux, zito to linux, nato sux ;)

H eisai aprosektos, h petakses epithdes flamebait ki ego tsimphsa ...

T.

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