C/C++ Languages

Christos Ricudis ricudis at paiko.gr
Thu Jun 17 06:32:24 EEST 1999


Hello Monsterb!

  On 16 Jun 99, Monsterb wrote to (DJ Art with subject "Re: C/C++ Languages":

 M> Tora kapoioi logoi oi opoioi tha krinoun tin epilogi tis glosas
 M> einai oi parakato:

O ekshs enas : 

Site policy toy software house. 

 M> Apo ta parapano kai mono blepoume oti i epilogi mias glossas den
 M> einai tixaio gegonos kai den basizezete stin apopsi oti
 M> i C einai gia Unixades kai gamatous programatistes, i Basic einai
 M> gia ta mixiarika kai i Fortarn einai gia ta mpaza.

Symfwnw gia th C, h BASIC omws den einai gia kanenan. Sou skotwnei ka8e
ikanothta domhmenhs kai logikhs skepshs, kai 8a eprepe na apagoreytei dia nomoy
estw kai mono gi ayto.

 M> se C tha grafotan kapos etsi:
 M> -ti ka?
 M> -ka, si?
 M> -ka kgo.

Ayto einai problhma ekpaideyshs toy developer kai mono, kai oxi problhma ths
glwssas. H C de se ypoxrewnei na grapseis strifna, aplws sto epitrepei. Ean to
kaneis, kako toy kefaliou sou. Opoios exei anagkastei na kanei maintenance se C
kwdika kserei pws na grafei strwta kai katanohta. Opoios exei anagkastei na
kanei maintenance se FORTRAN h COBOL kwdika exei noshleytei sto psyxiatreio. 

Kalytera na mhn milhsw gia thn periptwsh kapoioy poy exei anagkastei na kanei
maintenance se C kwdika grammeno apo FORTRAN programmers. 

 M> Basika exo programtisei stis exeis (liges akoma) glosses Basic,
 M> Pascal, Cobol, C, Matlab (mathematical language),  Perl
 M> kai Ada kai omologo oti emina katenthousiasmenos me tin Cobol,
 M> einai katapliktiki me tin diaxirisi arxeion-records etc.
 M> , einai san programatizeis se natural speaking language. Oso gia
 M> tin BASIC den to sizitame opoios koroideuei tin koroideuei einai 
 M> axios tis moiras tou.

O programmatismos den einai natural-speaking diergasia, kai den prepei na
antimetwpizetai ws tetoia. Oson afora th diaxeirish arxeiwn, ayto einai douleia
twn DBMS kai thn kanoyn poly kalytera. Oso gia th BASIC, alh8eia, ti 8etiko ths
briskeis kai thn anafereis olh thn wra ?

 M> ekdoseis sto euri koino). Stirixtike apo to DoD of USA kai kirios
 M> xrisimopoioite gia tin anaptixei megalon stratiotikon
 M> sistimaton (kai oxi mono EURO Control, GPS navigation sys... kai
 M> den simazeuetai).  Aufto eisai leei polla. Min akouso

To mono poy leei polla einai oti einai mia plhrws formalized glwssa poy
epitrepei poly kalytero system verification kai validation apo otidhpote allo
yparxei. Ean sto DoD toys kollouse h periergh idea oti prepei na xrhsimopoioyn
Intercal, to idio 8a isxye kai gi aythn. 

 M> Prosopika ego xrisimopoio Ada kiati kirios asxoloume me kati
 M> spastikes linked lists , de-que, trees kai oti allo
 M> teratoformo bazie o nous tou kathenos. Kati to opoio otan eida
 M> pos ginete stin C tromaxa. ( milao gia ta access types tis

Ayta einai abstract formalismoi, kai prepei na ma8eis na toys feresai ws
tetoious. Mia linked list eksakoloy8ei na einai mia linked list opoy kai na thn
kaneis implement. H C sou epitrepei na kaneis ena sxedon fysiko kai profanes
implementation aytwn twn domwn. Den kserw ti kanei h ADA. 

 M> * Re sis sto MIT den theloun na akousoun tipote allo pera apo
 M> Java, kati tha xeroun parapano ;).

Einai kalyterh apo thn C++ gia na mpeis sth logikh toy OO programming, alla to
idio isxyei gia th Smalltalk. To design ths einai elkystiko (VMs kai de
symmazeyetai), praktika exei deiksei oti exei periorismous. 

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Christos Ricudis
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