RedHat vs. SuSE vs. Debian

[Yiannis Galanomatis]

Panos Katsaloulis wrote:

> In article <36B0D72C.C27358F8 at dssl.tuc.gr>,
>         Abountolas Kostas <aboud at dssl.tuc.gr> writes:
> > nomizw oti twra theteis to zhthma, kata poso to linux einai gia ton aplo xrhsth
> > enos pc; to linux den exei ftasei sto shmeio na antapokrinetai ston aplo xrhsth
> > akoma. sigoura oi prospaueia thw redhat kai suse na feroune ton aplo xrhsth sto
> > linux einai shmantikh, alla nomizw oti to linux einai ena OS pou kathai mera
> > allazei kai etsi prepei na parameinei. alloste auto einai kai to megalo tou atou
> > afou einai anoixto OS kai gia ayto eixe kai toso megalh anptyjh.
>
> Den mporw na katalabw ti sxesh exei ayto me ton aplo xrhsth. To oti kati
> allazei de shmainei pws o <<aplos xrhsths>> den mporei na to akolou9hsei.
> 3erw pollous asxetous (an ennoeis ayto) pou pe9ainoun na xrhsimopoioun ka9e
> mera kai thn pio kainourgia ekdosh tou agaphmenou tous programmatos (an kai
> ayto mporei na einai to synolo twn gnwsewn toys se sxesh me thn plhroforikh).
>

mia shmeiwsh edw. aftos o xrhsths pou perigrafeis den einai o entelws aplos
xrhsths. Einai o mikromesaios pou 9elei na aftoprovalletai san ikanos kai
pepeiramenos, na einai "in". Aftous den lene "wannabes" ?
O arxarios ontws den exei orexh na anava9mizei synexeia, alla
giafto yparxoun 3 lyseis:
1) Na MHN anava9mizei syxna, na agorazei ta distributions, pou vgainoun
    mia fora stous 6 mhnes. As tous kernelwtes na vgainoun ka9e mera.
2) Na mhn anava9mizei ka9olou. As thn anaptyxh na trexei. Afou kaneis thn
    douleia sou, xesta ta ypolypa. (if it works don't fix it)
3) Na valei winbloze pou anava9mizontai mia fora thn pentaeteia. Giati ta 98 apo ta
    95 egw ta 9ewrw ypova9mish, enw h istoria 9x / NT / 2k einai enas ka9aros
    empaigmos twn agorastwn. Ginetai aplws mia antallagh xarakthristikwn apo to
    ena os sto allo. Ta 9x eixan kalo interface, ta nt3,5 oxi. Vale to idio interface
    kai sta nt, vgale nt4 kai xanapoulata. Ta 9x exoun pnp ta nt4 oxi vgale
    w2k kai xanapoula. Ta nt4 einai 32bit ta 9x oxi. Metefere meros tou pyrhna
   sta 9x kai xanapoulata. Ta 9x exoun DirectX ta nt4 oxi. Metefere to sto nt,
   kai xanapoulata. Ton xrhsth aston na plhrwnei!

>
> > o aplos xrhsths
> > thelei ta klasika menou setup tvn win98/95 pou na ginontai oles oi diadikasies
> > aytomata.

NAI AFTO TO AFTOMATA TO EXW DOKIMASEI!
Mazi me tis aftomates ry9miseis sou dhmiougei *aftomata* kai
xiliades allous ponokefalous kai provlhmata.

> > etsi xanete h mageia kai elpizo to linux na mhn ftasei pote se ayto to
> > epipedo.
>
> Oyte ayto to katalabainw. Dhladh einai mageia na psaxneis se apeira HOWTO, na
> diabazeis tonous apo README, na kaneis 1000+1 erwthseis se newsgroup gia kati
> poy 9a mporouse apla na ginei me ena click; Den lew, to na ta kaneis <<ola me
> to xeri>> den einai asxhmo, merikes fores einai kai aparaithto. Alla polles
> fores kapoia aytomatopoihsh den blaptei... Giati nomizeis pws epoiase h
> <<fash>> me ta RPM? Epeidh sou dinoun dynamh (pou _dinoun_ dynamh) 'h eykolia;
>

rposwpika m'aresoun ta rpm giati
1) ega9stwntai me mia entolh
2) exoun uninstall
3) den 9eloun sxedon pote recompile, pragma pou mou spaei ta nevra (otan exw
provlhmata, pou synh9ws exw)

>
> Oso gia to reset symfwnw... Apo tote poy <<ema9a>> pleon to Linux kai to
> xrhsimopoiw se ka9hmerinh bash, 3exasa pou einai ayto to koumpi...
> KAI DEN KANW PLAKA. Otan prin 1 mhna eprepe na mpw sta widow$ (kai FYSIKA mou
> kollhsane!!!) epsaxna to koumpi tou reset sto koyti kai den to'briska!
> To'xa 3exasei! (e, einai kai ligo kryfo - gia na mh patietai <<kata la9os>>)!

Kaneis la9os! Egw xrhshmopoiw poly pio syxna ta winbloze kai den
exw pathsei OYTE MIA FORA to reset, oute to CTRL-ALT-DEL.
(ps: ostwso o logos den einai oti den kollane ta winbloze, kollane kai
me to parapanw. Apla kati epa9e h motherboard mou kai molis
pataw reset svhnei o ypologisths xwris na epanekkinei. Opote anagazomai
na kanw power-off, power-on)


Kai ena geniko erwthma:
Ti sxesh exei to distribution meta thn egatastash? Egw phra to redhat (copia enoeitai)

to egatesthsa mia xara kai apo kei kai pera evaza oti h9ela. Ti lete "to SUSE
exei to KDE, to RH oxi"? E den to eixe. Phra to cd tou ram kai to egatesthsa.
Pou einai to provlhma?
Mono sthn diadikasia ths egatastashs vrhka diafores. Kai edw apoti eida, borei
to YaST na einai kapws pio dyskolonohto apo to redhat, alla einai pio exypna
sxediasmeno, alla panw ap'ola exei dynatothta save configuration.
Ypo9etw pws kapws me paromoia efkoleia 9a boresw na valw glibc
sto suse 5,3 pou exw sta xeria mou, etsi den einai?

ps: afto to "evaluation" sto suse5.3 pou moiraze to hellug, ti shmainei?
pantws na lhgei se 30 meres apokleietai!!! :-)

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