Linux & Apple

[Christos Ricudis]

Hello Linux-greek-users!

  On 03 Feb 99, Linux-greek-users wrote to All with subject "Re: Linux &
Apple":

Orismena apo ta istorika kai texnologika stoixeia sou einai elafrws 
lan8asmena. Ontas xrhsths toy NeXTStep, epetrepse moy na se dior8wsw
se merikes epousiwdeis leptomereies : 

 L> idrise tin etairia NeXT. I NeXT evgaze enan ipologisti, ton NeXT,
 L> me ena kainourio leitourgiko, to NeXTStep. To NeXTStep itan ena
 L> leitourgiko sistima vasismeno sto UNIX, alla me ena poli
 L> kalosxediasmeno graphiko perivallon (to opoio vlepoun osoi
 L> xrisimopoioun Afterstep 'i Window Maker)

Dior8wsh : 

...katafere na peisei toys xrhmatodotes na toy dwsoyn allo ena tsoubali lefta 
wste na idrysei thn etairia NeXT. H NeXT ebgale ena karo proprietary-built 
workstations me *sxetika* prwtopwriaka gia thn agora ths epoxhs toys 
xarakthristiks, poy kaneis den agoraze logw ths ekswfrenika ypshlhs toys 
timhs kai ths kleisths toys arxitektonikhs. H NeXT eytyxws to katalabe 
"egkairws" kai meiwse tis times ths otan ola ta mhxanhmata ths eixan 
kseperastei texnologika apo ton antagwnismo, xwris na ta beltiwsei. 

Ta mhxanhmata ayta synodeyotan me ena "kainourio" leitourgiko, to NextStep. 
To NeXTStep htan ena proprietary ektrwma basismeno sto Mach 2.5 me ena single-
server implementation toy 4.3BSD Unix. To GUI toy htan poly omorfo kai oi 
developers eixan merikes eksairetika kales idees toso sto GUI (Display 
Postscript, drag&drop) oso kai sto genikotero sxediasmo (centralized 
administration, distributed objects ktl ktl), to implementation twn opoiwn
htan toso aisxro kai apaisio poy to ekane praktika axrhsto. 

Mia kakh apomimhsh ths ekswterikhs emfanishs toy NeXTStep mporoyn na doyn 
osoi xrhsimopoioyn Afterstep h WindowMaker, xanontas omws thn original 
pronomiakh ais8hsh ths taxythtas kai ths spirtadas toy na trexeis ena argo 
GUI se ena panargo BSD-over-Mach panw se enan 68040 sta 25MhZ me 8MB mnhmh 
gia ton opoio plhrwses penhnta xiliades dolaria epeidh exei ena panemorfo 
mayro gyalistero ekswteriko periblhma apo magnhsio. 

 L> kai mia entelos Object-Oriented filosofia. Malista gi' auto eixe
 L> kai tin Objective-C os kiria glossa programmatismou. Kapoia stigmi i NeXT
 L> ekane ti sxediasi tou NeXTStep anoixti se tritous kai kapws etsi
 L> gennithike to OpenStep.

Dior8wsh : 

...kai mia entelws Object-Oriented filosofia. Malista gi' ayto eixe ws kyrio
development tool thn Objective C, mia glwssa poy kanenas den hksere kai 
kanenas den eixe th dia8esh na katsei na ma8ei mono kai mono gia xarh toy
Steve Jobs, eidika meta thn dhmosieysh twn prwtwn apotelesmatwn xrhshs ths 
etairias toy. 

Kapoia stigmh h NeXT katalabe oti den mporei na synthreitai ep'apeiron me 
pwlhseis dyo mhxanhmatwn to xrono (ek twn opoiwn to ena ston Jobs) kai 
apofasise na katarghsei to Hardware-manufacturing kommati ths etairias, 
kai dokimase na kanei port to NeXTStep se Intel kai PA-RISC platformes, stis
opoies apodeixthke akoma megalytero ektrwma apo oti sto diko ths native
hardware. 

Meta thn aytoktonia mesw peinas twn perissoterwn developers ths etairias, h 
opoia odhghse se adynamia synthrhshs toy NeXTStep, o Jobs apofasise na 
anoiksei thn arxitektonikh toy kai na dianeimei ta ligotero aisxra kommatia 
toy software katw apo thn onomasia OpenStep san ena unified OO development 
environment, kinhsh h opoia opws htan anamenomeno shmeiwse amesws emporika 
mia eksairetikh kai megaleiwdh apotyxia. 

 L>   I NeXT genika den ta pige kai poli kala, opote prin apo kapoio
 L> kairo o Steve Jobs girise stin Apple, i opoia kai agorase tin NeXT. Tote
 L> i Apple arxise na ftiaxnei ena entelos kainourio leitourgiko gia tous
 L> Macintosh, onomati Rhapsody, to opoio tha vasizotan sto OpenStep. Stin
 L> poreia i idea tou entelos kainouriou arxise na min tous kathetai kala, 
 L> opote apofasisan na to kanoun na pataei pano sto MacOS, kai kapos etsi 
 L> gennithike to MacOS X.

Dior8wsh : 

H NeXT genika ta phge apo apaisia mexri entelws aparadekta, opote prin apo
kapoio kairo o Steve Jobs ekleise ta rola kai gyrise pisw sthn Apple (poy 
tote skeftotan na kleisei) opoy ton dexthkan mono kai mono epeidh 8ymontousan 
oti kapote katafere na dhmioyrghsei thn apple apo to mhden, asxetws an apo 
tote den katafere na dhmioyrghsei apolytws tipote. 

Tote h Apple (poy meta thn afiksh toy Jobs einai PANTELWS etoimh na kleisei) 
arxise na ftiaxnei ena "entelws" (ma pistepste me) kainoyrio leitoyrgiko gia 
PPC kai i386 platformes, onomati Rhapsody, to opoio den htan tipote allo apo 
to NeXTStep, allazontas to mono kommati toy poy aksize - dhladh to GUI - kai 
bazontas sth 8esh toy to GUI toy MacOS 8ewrontas poly logika oti h 
pleiopshfia twn Amerikanwn pelatwn ths einai poly hli8ioi wste na 
xrhsimopoihsoyn opoiodhpote pontiki me panw apo ena koumpi. 

H entypwsiakh ayth filosofia sxediasmou, syndiasmenh me thn texnikh
artiothta kai thn episthmonikh prwtoporia toy leitoyrgikou aytou einai ta
kuria shmeia poy odhgoyn thn apple se mia sigoyrh mellontikh poreia pros
thn epixeirhmatikh katey8ynsh megalwn epixeirhsewn opws h Cray, h Amdahl,
h BCCI, h Peiraikh-Patraikh, ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka, k.a.

 L>   Auta gia tin istoria...Pantos i Apple strefetai *kai* sto linux
 L>  den einai diolou apithano na emfanistoun sto prosexes mellon
 L> Macintosh me Linux PPC egkatestimeno pano.

Auta gia th istoria... Pantws h Apple strefetai *kai* sto linux, den einai
dioloy api8ano na nomisei oti mporei na epanalabei m'ayto thn patagwdh 
apotyxia toy A/UX emfanizontas sto prosexes mellon Macintosh me Linux PPC 
egkatesthmeno kai eidiko port toy X server poy den apaitei pontiki me tria
koumpia. 

Oso gia to NeXTStep, zei, kai shmera shmeiwnei ekrhkthkh epityxia 
xarh stis agwniwdeis prospa8eies twn dyo monadikwn pleon ana ton kosmo 
fanatikwn yposthriktwn toy, ton Steve Jobs kai ton Giannh Sidiropoulo.

--
Christos Ricudis
Prof:    So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data
         encryption standard and they came up with ...
Student: EBCDIC!
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