[tournabi at ceid.upatras.gr: Staroffice]

[Antonis Tsolomitis]

> Antoni, kapoios apo tous dyo (egw i esy) den diabase kala gia ta epomena
> xfree.
> Egw eida oti ta Type1 fonts paramenoun 8 bit,ara den tha mporoume na typwnoume
> me unicode fonts.
> Yposthrhksh unicode tha exoun gia ta bitmap fonts.(PCF.BDF)
> ara mono tha blepoume.
> 
> makari na kanw lathos...:-)


Ka0e allo. Egw eimai ma0nmatikos kai eivai poly pi0avo va mnv katalabaivw
kala kapoia pragmata. 
Alla toulaxistov se aytn tn syzntnsn, oso afora to SO kai ta arxeia tou
Word, va kseka0arisw kapoia pragmata ws pros tn xrnsn.

Setup: dyo mnxavnmata to eva me SO5.1 to allo me Office2000, 
	kai ta dyo *freskostnmeva*

1. Avtallagn arxeiwv me format doc dev givetai me tipota on the fly.
Twra ama peirakseis to tade kai to diva dev kserw mporei va givei.

(Dwste mas odngies av givete (bnma bnma) va to kavoume kai emeis
giati mou stelvouv doc arxeia kai tous ta gyrizw pisw.)

2. Avtallagn arxeiwv se format rtf givetai apla opws to periegrapsa.
Epimevw oti to SO kavei kalitern douleia apo to Word: to rtf tou
SO, avoigete sto Word xwris problnma kai to font to opoio
deixvei to Word gia to keimevo eivai to greektimes. Twra av
o yang exei symbasn me tnv MS kai to Office2000 erxete etoimo
me to project graphis dev kserw, alla amfiballw giati o yang faivetai
Linux-as opws kai egw... :-)

Episns epimevw oti to Word97 (ws syvn0ws) paragei mapa arxeio rtf
(giati ws syvn0ws (pali) n MS epidiwkei tnv mn metafertotnta twv arxeiwv
tns): Av auto pou lew eivai la0os kai to Word bazei ws kalo pallnkari
to TimesNewRoman mesa sto rtf, opws kavei to SO me to greektimes,
dedomevwv twv prosfatwv plnroforiwv oti ta yparxovta XFree mia xara
ta deixvouv ta Unicode, tote to SO 0a ta edeixve kavovikotata afou
to evswmatomevo font exei protaireotnta apo to font tou systnmatos.
Atopo :-)


3. Graftnke <<ma egw avoigw mia xara doc arxeia apo Word97 sto SO>>
Apavtnsn: Ayto givetai giati to Word kavei kapoies magkies (edw to
paradexomai) me to plnktrologio. Eite tou dwseis TimesNewRomanGreek
me ta ellnvika se Unicode 0eseis, eite palio TimesNewRomanGreek
me ta ellnvika katw apo tn 0esn 256, to atimo katalabaivei (regional
settings?) kai grafei ellnvika kai me to eva kai me to allo.

Av loipov exeis sto systnma sou eva tetoio oligov palio font tote
ayta ta doc 0a ta avoigei to SO mia xara gyrizovtas ta se greektimes
n' exovtas egkatestnmevo sto SO to palio TimesNewRomanGreek.

4. Oso afora sto oti dev eivai lysn va stelveis kati ypo tnv proypo0esn
oti o allos exei ellnvika regional settings, symfwvw. Alla n MS kai 
ta pro.i.ovta tns eivai ta teleutaia pou mporouv va milave gia
metafertotnta arxeiwv. Kai malista kai movo pou asxoloumaste toso mazi
tous poly eivai.
 0a arxisw kai egw va stelvw stov kosmo attached .dvi arxeia
kai as bgalouv akrn... Malista 0a kavw tov xazo kai 0a lew ... ma egw apo
to Word to esteila...

Amav pia. Exw skasei me to k$%%&^%-Word. H seira Aptiva tns IBM
exei Lotus pavw kai oxi MSOffice. Aytoi ti va leve...

Kai eseis pou spoudasate plnroforikn dev 0a eprepe va apodexeste etsi 
to doc oute va to didaskete stous grammateis kai ypallnlous ws
ultimate tool.
Kai va pw edw allo eva paradeigma giati eivai evdeiktiko tns
kakns vootropias pou exoume ws Ellnves kai malista oi apofoitoi 
plnroforikns: Eixame eva kovdyli gia eksoplismo kai kapoioi
apo to tmnma plnroforikns pnrav 2 ekatomyria gia va agorasouv
Oracle database gia NT. Dioti oi kyrioi dev mporouv va ma0ouv
sta paidia mSQL pou eivai kai tsampa gia ekpaideutika idrymata
kai va agorasoume me ayta ta lefta kaveva Sun estw kai eva Xterminal,
prepei va paragoume kai emeis apofoitous *eksartnmevous*
apo Microsoft, Oracle klp klp gia va diadidouv kai autoi me tn seira tous
to mikrobio. Wsav kai se 13 bdomades pou 0a givetai to ma0nma
0a proxwrnsouv toso poly ta paidia wste 0a kserouv mSQL apeksw kai
avakatwta kai 0a prepei va mpouv stis ekleptyvseis tns Oracle.


O Syropoulos (gia va avaferw eva paradeigma) otav stelvei ar0ra sto RAM
tous stelvei ASCII! Malista ASCII kai oxi Word. Eivai mnmpws
koro.i.do; Alla o ev logw kyrios ftiaxvei attitude. H' toulaxistov
apo tn meria tou prospa0ei. Sou leei afou dev 0eleis LaTex/TeX
pare ASCII. Oxi 0a skypsoume pali stnv MS gia va eimaste euxaristoi
stous allous. Na exoume kai kapoia pernfaveia bre aderfe...

telos pavtwv tsavtistnka pali me to Word, alla de ftaite kai eseis...
apla eimai poly apogonteumevos me tou plnroforikarious pou kykloforouv
kai poly xaroumevos pou gvwrisa kapoious se aytn tn lista pou eivai
poly kalyteroi.

AT.

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