Pros ti ta Xania ?

Costas Christoyannis christog at cti.gr
Thu Jun 18 20:43:09 EEST 1998


On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Christofer Karatzinis wrote:
>    Den kserw an einai sxetiko me to 0ema tis linux-greek-users, alla den
> nomizw oti mporoun na sta0oun katigories gia "hacking" stin Ellada. Prwta
> apo ola (Asxeta an yparxoun oi sxetikoi nomoi - copy+paste apo kapoio allo
> kratos...poly pi0anon na mas ypoxrewsan na exoume autous tous nomous) den
> nomizw oti yparxei dikastis pou na katalabainei ti 0a tou lete. Ektos
> autou, den nomizw oti mporei kapoios na apodiksei oti sto sygkekrimeno
> account tin wra tou hacking itan o nomimos xristis H' kapoios allos. Kai
> den nomizw oti ta "log files" einai apodeiktika stoixeia! 

Polu xairomai pou blepw th le3h hacking mesa se eisagwgika (h le3h
kakopoieitai banafsa dystyxws, kai h akritomy8h xrhsh ths fanerwnei
elliph katanohsh twn semantics ths). Nomoi gia sygekrimena adikhmata
den yparxoun, wstoso ston poiniko kwdika (kai na me dior8wsoun oi
nomikarioi ths listas an kanw la8os) anaferetai oti adikhmata pou
diaprattontai mesw hlektronikwn ypologistwn dikazontai me bash
antistoixa adikhmata (e3 ou kai to aporrhto tou e-mail). Oso gia thn
agnoia twn dikastwn, se aftes tis periptwseis kalountai eidikoi
empeirognwmones (p.x. ka8hghtes Panepisthmiou) pou e3hgoun sta melh
tou dikasthriou texnikes leptomereis se 8emata pou den exoun gnwsh, h
pou h gnwsh tous den einai plhrhs. To 8ema me ta log files einai
ligo periergo. Afenos einai e3airetika dyskolo na apodeixtei h gnhsiothta
twn logs, afeterou to trace-back den odhgei anagastika ston pragmatiko
enoxo. O idiokthths tou logariasmou pou xrhsimopoih8hke den einai
anagastika ypef8ynos gia ta apotelesmata ths xrhshs tou, efoson den
apodeixtei oti htan o idios drasths.

To 8ema einai endexomenws ektos twn oriwn ths mailing list. Sthn
periptwsh afth apologoumai prokatabolika gia th synexish tou thread.
Sthn periptwsh pou o listarxos krinei ws irrelevant to thread, perimenw
me proswpiko e-mail ta sxolia sas kai tis dior8wseis sas.

--- DiJ ///// Costas Christoyannis       http://www.hack.gr/users/dij/
_____  /////                 http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~xyannis/
\****\/////   xyannis at ceid.upatras.gr   dij at hack.gr    christog at cti.gr
 \****\///    Computer Eng & Informatics, University of Patras, Greece
  \****\/     UNIX System Administrator, Web Developer, CGI Programmer

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