Mia ponemenh istoria

Panos Katsaloulis teras at writeme.com
Wed Dec 2 01:36:53 EET 1998


Ayth einai mia ponemenh istoria enos arxariou pou prospa9hse (ti pio
fysiko)
na balei ellhnika sto leitourgiko twn oneirwn tou :-) Kai epeidh to 9ema
einai ane3antlhto 9a anafer9w mono se ayto pou (pleon) pisteyw oti brhka
thn
lysh tou.
Epeidh opws fainetai ayto to mynhma na ginei makroskeles (kai epeidh
yparxei kai kapoios problhmatismos) gia osous den endiaferontai gia thn
idia
thn istoria para gia tous problhmatismous pou PREPEI na diabasoun oloi
ths
listas - kata thn gnwmh mou - topo9ethsa tous problhmatismous aytous sto
telos meta apo mia seira me asteriskous ( dhladh sta ******************
)

Kai arxizw.
Afou loipon diapistwsa pws to Linux "a3izei ton kopo" (kai pleon
diapistwnw
pws oute gia 1 min den to exw metaniwsei... kai einai arga pleon gia na
to
metaniwsw twra) apofasisa na egkatasthsw kai ellhnika - oxi gia na blepw
ta
menu se ellhnika (allwste protimw to aggliko periballon ergasias) alla
gia na
mporw na steilw ena ellhniko mail bre adelfe!

Pou allou na koita3ei kaneis (neos blepeis kai me mhdenikh gnwsh apo
Unix
genikotera) para se ayto pou panta oloi lene: sta HOWTO. Ta typwnw
loipon
(mesw windows parakalw!) kai arxizw douleia.
Ti xreiazetai kaneis prwta; Ma fysika fonts! Alla poia; Telika fainetai
oti
yparxoun arketa paketa, ka9'ena yposxomeno plhres ('h merikws) set
fonts.
Poia na prwtobalei kaneis; Idiws otan polla apo ayta einai
epikalyptomena...
Kai apo pou kai ws pou 9a eprepe na 3erw tis diafores meta3y bitmap kai
vector font? (akoma den ema9a tis pragmatikes katalh9eis tous - alla
giati 9a
epprepe;;;) Telos pantwn - ta boh9htika arxeia kapou me odhghsan (mazi
me thn
megalh ypomonh mou) kai telika kati katafera - toulaxiston ta eblepa sto
xfontsel kai se entoles tou typou "xterm -font -...."

Meta exei seira to Netscape. Kati to oxi toso katatopistiko HOWTO, kati
ta
perierga shell-scripts kati o fobos na mh xalasw ta directory me ta
ellhnika
pou me kopo (;) katafera na fia3w, to mono poy petyxa htan na blepw mono
stis
mises selideds ellhnika. Ek twn ysterwn kai meta apo 5 mhnes katalaba
oti
den eblepa tis selides me codepage windows-1253. Pou na to katalabw omws
tote; Htan ilarh h katastash: anoiga mia selida sto Composer, allaza to
codepage se kati tyxeio kai meta to 3anaallaza se ellhnika gia na thn
diabasw!

Kapou akouw gia to xfstt - san kalo na akougetai... To egka9istw kai me
ta
polla katafernw na dw TTF !! Akoma kai sto Netscape. Kai den mhlame gia
poiothta grammatoseirwn... kammia sxesh. Pali omws to problhma me tis
mises
selides...

Epomeno bhma: Ellhnika sto plhktrologio. Edw ki an den mou efyge h
psyxh.
Diabasa gia thn istoria me ta 8-bit kai (telos pantwn) den mou fanhkan
kai
toso tragika ta pragmata - am de! Pou tetoia tyxh. Afou egkatasthsa to
grXISOKbd V 1.1 (sorry an den to grafw swsta) arxizei to mati mou na
gializei! San kati na katafernw! Ti apogohteysh omws: mono sto Netscape,
sto xedit kai sto StarOffice (telika) katafera na to kanw na
doulepsei...
Xmmm mhpws ftaiei to compilation;
Den 9a anafer9w gia tis wres pou mou phre na katebazw kainourgies
ekdoseis
tvn xterm, rxvt, bash klp klp. Mexri kai ton gcc 2.8 katebasa ! (allo
martyrio ayto - katalh3a se format meta to install mia pou tipote den
ginotan compile pia!) To apotelesma bebaia to ypopsiazestai :  _TZIFOS!_

Se ayto to shmeio egkataleipw thn prospa9eia. Allwste oute to xedit
einai
programma a9iwsewn :-( Eytyxws pou to "chcp" douleye swsta - akoma kai
gia
enan arxario!

Kai ftanw sto SuSE... Eytyxws pou to brhka! Akousa oti htan 8-bit clean
( 9a
eprepe giati oi germanoi exoun ta umlaut -dialytika )  kai ypo9esa oti
toulaxiston 9a glitwna to recompilation. Telika a3izei ton kopo - kai
oxi
mono gi'ayto... Den kanw diafhmish - apla einai to KALYTERO
distribution. Ta
problhmata omws problhmata.

Briskw kai to grXISOKbd V1.2  E, lew pleon akoma kai enas arxarios 9a
prepei
na mporei na kanei install ta ellhgika! XA! Nomos tou Merfy: twra den
douleyoun ta ellhnika OUTE sto Netscape! Mayrh pikra... Mexri pou
diapistwnw
oti to arxeio pou egka9ista sto /etc/profile.d/ den ekteleitai apo to
SuSE,
htan blepeis gia RedHat (em, pleon arxiza na ginomai experienced user).
Telos
pantwn to bazw na ekteleitai kai toulaxiston eixa ellhnika sto Netscape
klp.

Apofasizw na peisw kai ton ektypwth mou na grapsei sta ellhnika... Allh
mia
matwmenh istoria. Telos pantwn pros to paron typwnei to Netscape kai
ayto mou
ftanei. An kai polles fores kapoies le9eis typonwntai panw stia alles.
Akoma
den mporesa na brw pws na to dior9wsw...

Kai meta apo mia antallagh mynhmatwn me ton Swthrh Tsimponh anakalyptw
to
GRKbd. Kai ws dia mageias apoktoun OLA ta programmata ellhnikh
yposthri9h!
'H gia na akrobologw _mono_ osa DEN eixan prin. Ti shmainei ayto; Oti to
Netscape me GRKbd den bgazei ellhnika! Eytyxws pou to ka9e ena
energopoieitai
me diaforetiko syndiasmo plhktrwn dhladh!

Na pw kai gia to StarOffice? Oxi den 9a pw akoma... Allwste den mporesa
na
brw swsto documentation oute na to kanw na leitourgei apsoga (na pw thn
alh9eia to psiloparathsa me to pou brhka to GRKbd). Kai otan lew apsoga
ennow
me ellhnikes grammatoseires, ellhnika ston ektypwth me giafores
grammatoseires (an einai dynaton kai me TTF) KAI me le3iko! Exoume akoma
mellon....

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Symprerasmata:

1) Giati den yparxei ena basiko paketo gia ellhnika; Giati prepei na
paideyetai o arxarios (se ayton PANTA anaferomai) me ta diafora arxeia;
Giati
na mhn anate9ei se diaforous (egw pantws eyxaristws dexomai) na
ftoia3oun RPM
('h o,ti antistoixo) gia to diko tous distribution pou na egka9ista san
tyflosourths;

2) Giati yparxei sigh ix9yos gia to xfstt; Exei to kalytero rendering
gia
fonts KAI yposthrizei ellhnika. Ase pou OLOI exoun TTF me ellhnika! Gia
to
codepage windows-1253 den prepei na yparxei sobarh yposthri3h alla to
ellhniko daimonio kati mporei na ftia3ei gia ayto!

3) To HOWTO (xwris na 9elw oute kata dianoia na prosbalw ekeinous pou
prospa9oun na to ftia3oun kai tous epibrabeyw) den payei na einai ligo
"palio" merikes fores 'h na fernei tis amarties tou parel9ontos. Kaneis
9a
9elei grhgora na egkatasthsei ta ellhnika - kai na egktasta9oun. Pio
poly
einai san mia syllogh gia programmata 'h plhrofories gia ton eidiko para
boh9eia gia enan neo xrhsth.

4) TI MPOREI NA GINEI ME TO PLHKTROLOGIO; Ap'o,ti fainetai to grIsoXKbd
mporei na yposthri3ei kai tous dyo typous ellhnikwn (des sto keimeno
mou)
alla _sigoura_ enas neos xrhsths den mporei na ta bgalei pera.
Epipros9etws
to documetation einai xalia. Exoun mperdeytei palia arxeia me kainourgia
kai
den bgazeis akrh :-(

5) Ti ginetai me ellhnika fonts se periballon console? Me fonts gia
MS-DOS se
console? Gia to MS-DOS emulator? Ta programmata trexoun, alla sta
kinezika!
(An kai epifyalssomai sto mellon otan 3emperdepsw me kapoies ypoxrewseis
mou
na to koita3w ayto egw o idios ).

5) Pws mporei na 9eloume na kanoume gnwsto ayto to leitourgiko ston
kosmo
(kai ontws a3izei ton kopo) an to prwto pou mas rwtaei enas ypopsifios
xrhsths einai "pws ta paei me ta ellhnika"; An prepei na perasei ayton
ton
golgo9a (ase thn ekma9hsh) 9a fygei kakhn kakws!

6) Einai krimas ena programma san to StarOffice pou einai to bary oplo
(idiws
gia tous ypopshfious neous xrhstes poy rwtane panta "To Word trexei;" -
den
rwtane kan gia epe3ergasth keimenou) na einai toso paramelhmeno apo ta
HOWTOs. Gnwrizw oti einai periergo programma alla 9a'prepe na to
"ftia9oume"
kai ayto sta metra mas :-)  Kai propantwn EYKOLA!

7) An kapou h glwssa mou htan pio kaystikh idiws se douleies allwn pou
idrwsan isws na tis kanoun zhtaw pragmatika syggnwmh. Egw o kakomoirhs
oute
perl 3erw, oute kan mporw na ma9w C++ - to exw parei apofash pia :-( .
Alla
den mporei na diarganontai happenings sth Stournara kai se basika 9emata
(opws ta ellhnika) h katastash na einai XALIA.

8) Den mporei to mpourd*lo pou legetai WInblow$ (syggnwmh kai gia tis
dyo
aprepes le3eis) na exei ellhnika apla me ena *click* kai to Linux pou
"rocks"
(afhnw thn metafrash se sas) na sou bgazei ta sykwtia anapoda :-(

 OUF ! Ta'pa kai 3elafrwsa!

Panagiwths Katsaloulis
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