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Alexios Chouchoulas alexios at vennea.demon.co.uk
Wed Apr 29 12:00:48 EEST 1998


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Christos Ricudis wrote:

> Nai, basika to mono pragma poy den exei o Eighteen Megabytes And Constantly 
> Swapping editor einai enas kernel.

  Den exei kernel???! Apo pote? Kai afto to "unox", "unix", pws to lene re
paidi mou, ti rolo baraei? Nomiza oti aftos htan o kernel tou. :-) Plaka
plaka kapoios tha PREPEI na ftiaksei enan Emacs kernel kapoia stigmh gia thn
plaka kai mono. :-)

  Tha exei endiaferon na ton kanei na trexei mono se Symbolics mhxanes (lisp
machines). :-)


> Basika to kalytero pragma poy mporeis na kaneis an 8eleis na kaneis 
> ena neo xrhsth na sixa8ei to unix me to poy 8a to dei, einai na ton ka8hseis
> se ena vt320, na trekseis ton emacs, kai na ton afhseis mono toy. 
> 
> Pente wres argotera mporeis na gyriseis kai na ton deis na prospa8ei akoma 
> na bgei apo kei (xixixixix) 

  :-)   Afto to'kana palia stous prwtoeteis tou panepisthmiou. Otan diabazan
man pages kai den koitousan thn othonh tous, tous pataga to "v" sto more.
Ante meta na bgoun apo ton VI. To opoio mou thymizei kai kai o vi einai
kapws stryfnos sthn diadikasia eksodou tou. Kai o ed einai. O monos normal
editor pou kapoios kalos anthrwpos skefthke na kanei to ^C quit einai o joe
(kala, mporei na'nai ki alloi, alla den tous exw dei akoma).

  Alla pleon oloi osoi kserw pou xrhsimopoioun Emacs, ton trexoun katw apo X
(h trexoun ton prwhn-lucid-nyn-gnu-xemacs) kai kanoun ta PANTA me to
pontiki, les kai doulevoun to word. Save? Pontiki. Cut? Pontiki. Pageup?
Pontiki. An mathainan kana shortcut tha glytwnan kammia wra douleia thn
hmera synolika. :-)

  Exontas pei ola afta, ofeilw na stamathsw ta flogobola legontas oti, nai,
xrhsimopoiw emacs gia programmatismo. Alla xrhsimopoiw vi gia administration
mhxanhmatwn pou "den pane kala". Gia administration mhxanhmatwn pou pane
kala xrhsimopoiw joe synithws.

  Afta einai proswpikes protimhseis, fysika. To na flameiazesai gia to poios
editor einai kalyteros (ed! ed! ed! Trexei kai se ASR-33 sta 110 baud) einai
apistefta blammeno, IMNSHO.


> (Pros apofyghn parekshghsewn : Moy aresei o emacs. Eidika aytos o kafes poy 
> pshnei einai allo pragma bre paidi moy...)

  Eksartatai apo thn ekdosh, basika. An trexeis ton 19.xx se kana Sun 3/50
katw apo X, sigoura ponaei. Ekei trexeis ton 18.xx kai paei mia xara (akoma
kai sta 4M RAM tou 3/50). Fysika mporeis panta na meiwseis to megethos tou,
kanontas ton compile me ligotera modes built-in. Basika mporeis na meiwseis
to megethos tou POLY. Me ekseplhkse poso grhgora ekane compile -- to core
program einai mikrouliko telika. Afta pou to fouskwnoune einai ta diafora
lisp programmatakia pou fortwnontai aftomata (h isws ginontai compile se
.elc, mazevontai se ena megalo ogko kai prostithentai sto binary me ton
linker).

  Genika h gkrinia peri megethous kai ogkou katw apo *nix einai askoph.
S'enoxlei to megethos enos programmatos? Xrhsimopoihse allo. An den mporeis,
kane recompile afto kai kopstou features. Edw den einai 95 pou anagkastika
gkriniazoume giati o,ti exoume m'afto tha meinoume ston aiwna ton apanta.
:-(

A.

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