SYNANTISH APOTELESMATA

[Maistrelis Kostas]

Egine i sinantisi sta e3arxia parakato metafero afta
pou ipo8ikan-apofasistikan

Ayto 8a prepei na einai kai to telefteo minima poy apasxoli tin
lista Linux-gr, H sinexia se oti exei na kanei me ton silogo
kai tin Elliniki dianomi 8a prepei na sinexistei stin lista 
Hellug


Episis to akolou8o minima yparxei kai se attatchment sto telos
me Ellinika elot-928.
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Praktika ths sunanthshs 26/4/98
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Kata th sunanthsh auth parabre8hkan oi e3hs:
Gewrgatos Fwths, Sanida Boula, Papakwstas Euripidhs,
Soldatos 8eodwros, Kamprianhs Mixalhs, Maistrelhs Kwstas
Nairos Panagiwths, Kougios Kwnstantinos.


3ekinhse epishma mia prospa8eia sugkentrwshs ulikou p.x katastatika 
allwn sullogwn, prwtes idees, anazhthsh prwtwn melwn klp. H sunexeia 
ths prospa8eias apofasisthke
na ginetai mesw ths listas hellug wste pleon na summetexoun isotima 
kai autoi pou antimetwpizoun duskolia na summetexoun "fusika".

Eipw8hkan ta e3hs : 

O sullogos einai ellhnikos kai nomika prepei na ferei kapoio ellhniko
onoma. 
Sunh8izetai (blepe katastatiko filwn TEX klp.) na prokuptei ws akrwnumio
ellhnikwn le3ewn. Gia na mh dhmiourgh8ei problhma apo xorhgies, dwrees
apo mh melh p.x computers, stands se ek8eseis klp. 8a prepei sthn
onomasia mas na feroume tis le3eis "Filoi Linux".
Ara san paradeigma (kai proteinomenh onomasia)
ENWSH XRHSTWN KAI FILWN LINOU3 ELLADAS (EXFLE)
To antiais8htiko auto onoma 8a xrhsimopoieitai mono sta epishma xartia 
kai eggrafa. To onoma me to opoio o sullogos 8a proballetai pros ta e3w 
8a einai HELLUG (opws kai ta alla LUGs).

San sfragida, pou apaiteitai na einai stroggulh, me perifereiaka 
thn onomasia mas kai to etos idrushs. proteinetai sto kentro na 
uparxei o pigkouinos me thn ellhnikh shmaia sto stoma 
(opoios ton zwgrafise na mas pei to Ok).

To HELLUG apotelei ton panellhnio sullogo xrhstwn kai filwn tou Linux. 
Ta melh mporoun na summetexoun eite mesw listas eite kai me fusikh 
parousia (oi idioi h mesw ekproswpou tous) otan kai an auto apaiteitai
p.x. sth sumbolaiografikh pra3h. Me auto ton tropo e3asfalizoume  idio 
dikaiwma summetoxhs kai logou se olous ane3arthta apo ton topo diamonhs. 

Ane3arthta me to pws dialegoun na epikoinwnoun meta3u tous ta melh 
anepishma p.x IRC, topikes sugkentrwseis, kafedes, mpouzoukia klp. 
epishma oi apofaseis tous 8a ekfrazontai kai 8a gnwstopoiountai mono 
mesw enos koina apodektou kanaliou (h HELLUG mailing list) wste na mhn 
uparxoun pare3hghseis kai oloi na moirazontai thn idia plhroforia.

Logw megaluterou ari8mou xrhstwn sthn A8hna, dikhgorwn, gnwstwn mas 
sumbolaiografwn klp. proteinoume thn edra tou sullogou sthn A8hna. 
Ean apaiteitai pragmatikh dieu8unsh, thlefwno klp. xwris kammia 
forologikh epibarunsh kai allh sunepeia, o E. Papakwstas diati8etai 
na dhlwsei to spiti tou ws edra tou sullogou.  

O sullogos 8a exei ethsia sundromh kai eggrafh. Ta e3oda gia thn idrush 
pou peripou 8a einai 100-200 xiliades diairoumeno me to minimum ari8mo 
melwn (20) 8etoun thn eggrafh anagkastika meta3u twn 5-10 xiliadwn draxmwn.
 Ean eggrafoun perissoteroi, to poso 8a einai mikrotero. Se ka8e periptwsh, 
prepei na mazeutei auto to poso alliws den ufistatai sullogos. 
Ka8e melos, ektos apo oikonomikes upoxrewseis  (Mikrh Ethsia sundromh p.x.
2.000) 8a exei kai organwtikes p.x 
suggrafh katastatikou, user support, metafraseis, eishghths se seminario, 
parousia se stand ek8esewn (analoga bebaia me tis dunatothtes tou). 


Mesa stous skopous tou HELLUG einai h susfi3h twn desmwn twn Hellinuxers, 
h organwsh tous pros drasthriothtes pou 8a proagoun to Linux sthn Ellada 
(dianomes Linux, seminaria, parousia se ek8eseis, plhroforiako uliko, 
metafraseis, ar8ra, gnwstopoihsh 8esewn ergasias sxetikwn me Linux) ka8ws 
kai die8nhs probolh (sunergasia me alla LUGs, dhmiourgia greek local 
settings, uposthri3h arxaiwn ellhnikwn, e3ellhnismos paketwn klp.)

Mesw tou sullogou mporoume na epituxoume xorhgies, ekptwseis, 
free sundromes, sebasmo apo periodika, xwro se sthles klp.

Suntoma 8a anarth8ei prwth version tou katastatikou dia8esimh pros
 sxoliasmo, tropopoihseis (panta mesw ths listas) sto 
http://www.linux.gr se txt morfh.

Opoios endiaferetai na summetasxei ws melos tou sullogou 
(panta mesw ths listas) na dhlwsei endiaferon. 

Epeidh ka8e douleia prepei na exei ena xroniko orizonta, sto telos
Iouniou 8a prepei na exei suntax8ei oristiko katastatiko, bre8oun ta
apaitoumena melh, ka8oristoun oi sundromes kai katablh8oun ta lefta sto 
atomo pou 8a apofasistei wste na kinh8ei kai to nomiko meros.

Ean den to exoume kataferei mexri tote, den uparxei kanenas logos 
dhmiourgias sullogou (asumfwnies, adiaforia, elleiyh xrhmatwn klp.) 
kai h katastash 8a sunexistei ws exei xwris kanena epishmo sullogo 
na mas antiproswpeuei.


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?? ??????? ???? ??? ?????? hellug ???? ????? ?? ??????????? ??????? 
??? ????? ??? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? "??????".

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? ???????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ????????
?????. 
??????????? (????? ??????????? ????? TEX ???.) ?? ????????? ?? ?????????
????????? ??????. ??? ?? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??? ????????, ??????
??? ?? ???? ?.? computers, stands ?? ???????? ???. ?? ?????? ????
???????? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?????? "????? Linux".
??? ??? ?????????? (??? ???????????? ????????)
????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? (?????)
?? ????????????? ???? ????? ?? ??????????????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? 
??? ???????. ?? ????? ?? ?? ????? ? ???????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ??? 
?? ????? HELLUG (???? ??? ?? ???? LUGs).

??? ????????, ??? ?????????? ?? ????? ?????????, ?? ???????????? 
??? ???????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???????. ??????????? ??? ?????? ?? 
??????? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ????? 
(?????? ??? ????????? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??).

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?? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ?????? 
???????? (?? ????? ? ???? ?????????? ????) ???? ??? ?? ???? ??????????
?.?. ??? ???????????????? ?????. ?? ???? ??? ????? ?????????????  ???? 
???????? ?????????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?????????? ??? ??? ???? ????????. 

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????????? ?.? IRC, ??????? ?????????????, ???????, ?????????? ???. 
??????? ?? ????????? ???? ?? ??????????? ??? ?? ??????????????? ???? 
???? ???? ????? ????????? ???????? (? HELLUG mailing list) ???? ?? ??? 
???????? ???????????? ??? ???? ?? ??????????? ??? ???? ??????????.

???? ??????????? ??????? ??????? ???? ?????, ?????????, ??????? ??? 
??????????????? ???. ??????????? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ?????. 
??? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????, ???????? ???. ????? ?????? 
?????????? ?????????? ??? ???? ????????, ? ?. ?????????? ?????????? 
?? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????????.  

? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????. ?? ????? ??? ??? ?????? 
??? ??????? ?? ????? 100-200 ???????? ??????????? ?? ?? minimum ?????? 
????? (20) ?????? ??? ??????? ??????????? ?????? ??? 5-10 ???????? ???????.
 ??? ????????? ????????????, ?? ???? ?? ????? ?????????. ?? ???? ?????????, 
?????? ?? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ????????? ????????. 
???? ?????, ????? ??? ??????????? ???????????  (????? ?????? ???????? ?.?.
2.000) ?? ???? ??? ??????????? ?.? 
???????? ????????????, user support, ???????????, ????????? ?? ?????????, 
???????? ?? stand ???????? (??????? ?????? ?? ??? ??????????? ???). 


???? ????? ??????? ??? HELLUG ????? ? ??????? ??? ?????? ??? Hellinuxers, 
? ???????? ???? ???? ?????????????? ??? ?? ???????? ?? Linux ???? ?????? 
(???????? Linux, ?????????, ???????? ?? ????????, ???????????? ?????, 
???????????, ?????, ???????????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ?? Linux) ????? 
??? ??????? ??????? (?????????? ?? ???? LUGs, ?????????? greek local 
settings, ?????????? ??????? ?????????, ???????????? ??????? ???.)

???? ??? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????????? ????????, ?????????, 
free ?????????, ??????? ??? ?????????, ???? ?? ?????? ???.

??????? ?? ????????? ????? version ??? ???????????? ????????? ????
 ?????????, ????????????? (????? ???? ??? ??????) ??? 
http://www.linux.gr ?? txt ?????.

?????? ???????????? ?? ??????????? ?? ????? ??? ???????? 
(????? ???? ??? ??????) ?? ??????? ??????????. 

?????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ????????, ??? ?????
??????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ????????? ???????? ???????????, ??????? ??
??????????? ????, ??????????? ?? ????????? ??? ??????????? ?? ????? ??? 
????? ??? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????.

??? ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ????? ????, ??? ??????? ??????? ????? 
??????????? ???????? (??????????, ?????????, ??????? ???????? ???.) 
??? ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? 
?? ??? ??????????????.


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