From sbolis at freemail.gr Sat Jun 30 17:01:37 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:01:37 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Test Message-ID: Hello herlug ;-) sbolis From papas at wise.gr Mon Jul 2 08:23:30 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:23:30 +0300 Subject: peri listarxou Message-ID: <20010702082330.2ea7fd62.papas@wise.gr> kalos ir8ame loipon :) poios apo esas agapitoi 8a analabei listarxos?? ntg? lefteri? tsaga[t|r]aki? ela na vlepo!!! vagelis papadogiannakis From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Jul 2 20:38:20 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 20:38:20 +0300 Subject: peri listarxou References: <20010702082330.2ea7fd62.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <007401c1031d$c9596b20$45083493@hp> > ntg? Ante xoste me. ;-) > lefteri? > tsaga[t|r]aki? > > ela na vlepo!!! > > vagelis papadogiannakis Nikos From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Tue Jul 3 13:37:25 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 03:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Suse 7.2 Message-ID: <20010703103725.25717.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> An kai ligo off-topic gia ti lista, Mipws exei kanei to SuSE 7.2 (Personal i' Pro) ? P.S. : Gia na min fortwnoume ti lista steilte mou personal mail Manwlis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From papas at wise.gr Tue Jul 3 18:48:17 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (papas at wise.gr) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:48:17 +0300 Subject: t Message-ID: <200107031548.f63FmHr10406@hera.wise.gr> t From sbolis at freemail.gr Tue Jul 3 20:58:02 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (sbolis at freemail.gr) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 20:58:02 +0300 (EEST) Subject: t In-Reply-To: <200107031548.f63FmHr10406@hera.wise.gr> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 papas at wise.gr wrote: > t Re papa, eipame na kaneis test.. oxi na psaxnoyme na broyme ti thes... ;-) -- Spiros D. Bolis Y.G. basika prin ligo ena mail toy baggelh poy phgaine sth herlugmembers at source.gr parakratithike apo to mailman epeidh de egrafe stoys headers rhta herlug at lists.hellug.gr opote ebala san alias ths listas ta dyo paliotera onomata @source.gr kai toy eipa na 3anaprospathisei.. alla aytos barethike na ta grapsei oloklhra..Tespa.. Prospathiste na xrhsimopoieite to neo onoma apeytheias Kalo brady, From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Jul 6 10:07:41 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:07:41 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh Message-ID: Kalhmera se olous paidia, den blepw kinhsh sthn lista, giati? Mou fenetai oti oloi exete paei stis paraleies! Na kanonhsoume mia synanthsh gia kafe h ouza. Proteinw apo bdomada, opote mporeitai, steilte mail. Ayta, Lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From fuabap at hotmail.com Fri Jul 6 11:21:24 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 08:21:24 -0000 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: arxika kalo kalokairi.... kata deytero gia osous den kseroyn bghke to slackware to 8.0 kai kata triton pame gia kafe h ouza opote goystarete Mamakis Georgios fuabap at hotmail.com epp27 at epp.teiher.gr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Fri Jul 6 13:53:59 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:53:59 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: Message-ID: <002001c10609$f63c3de0$31083493@hp> > Kalhmera se olous paidia, Tin kali pou tin eides? > den blepw kinhsh sthn lista, giati? Mou fenetai oti oloi exete paei stis > paraleies! Na kanonhsoume mia synanthsh gia kafe h ouza. Proteinw apo > bdomada, opote mporeitai, steilte mail. Paizeis me ton pono mas?Pantos na kanonisoume kamia sunantisoula apo tin alli vdomada. Nikos From papas at wise.gr Fri Jul 6 04:00:18 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 04:00:18 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010706040018.46322a31.papas@wise.gr> On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:07:41 +0300 Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > Kalhmera se olous paidia, > > den blepw kinhsh sthn lista, giati? Mou fenetai oti oloi exete paei stis > paraleies! Na kanonhsoume mia synanthsh gia kafe h ouza. Proteinw apo > bdomada, opote mporeitai, steilte mail. > > Ayta, > Lefteris ante re paidia!!! ego esas perimeno na teleiosete tis eksetaseis sas!!! I am here all day and all of the night :) From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Fri Jul 6 16:31:06 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:31:06 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: <20010706040018.46322a31.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <001501c1061f$e925b580$27083493@hp> > ante re paidia!!! ego esas perimeno na teleiosete tis eksetaseis sas!!! Toso polu sou leipsame e? Kane oti kanoume kai emeis.Ypomoni. Ta paidia apo ta T.E.I. teleiosan? > I am here all day and all of the night :) Ypopto auto. ;-) Nikos From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Fri Jul 6 17:06:45 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:06:45 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: Message-ID: <000901c10624$e45d65c0$23083493@hp> > Ta TEI Teleiosan. Eseis teleiosate? Na vrethume prin mas figun oi min Emeis teleionoume tin Deutera.Ego tha anevo mallon Athina gia 2-3 meres.Mexri tin paraskeui pantos tha guriso. > kritikoi. Ti lete na mazeytume gia ena mpanaki notia paralia,hippy, > sex(amma vrume), sea, sun (auta ta exume) Pote den leo oxi sto sex......e se paralia ennoousa. Nikos From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Jul 6 17:02:11 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (J. Tsagatakis) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:02:11 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh In-Reply-To: <001501c1061f$e925b580$27083493@hp> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, NTG21 wrote: > > ante re paidia!!! ego esas perimeno na teleiosete tis eksetaseis sas!!! > > Toso polu sou leipsame e? > Kane oti kanoume kai emeis.Ypomoni. > Ta paidia apo ta T.E.I. teleiosan? > Ta TEI Teleiosan. Eseis teleiosate? Na vrethume prin mas figun oi min kritikoi. Ti lete na mazeytume gia ena mpanaki notia paralia,hippy, sex(amma vrume), sea, sun (auta ta exume) > > I am here all day and all of the night :) > > Ypopto auto. ;-) > Nai sigura .... > Nikos > Giannis I have no root and i want to scream From papas at wise.gr Fri Jul 6 05:49:44 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 05:49:44 +0300 Subject: giati dio fores? Message-ID: <20010706054944.5393f5a6.papas@wise.gr> re paidia, giati na pairnoume ta idia mail dio fores??? otan kanete reply all, svinete ton arxiko paralipti kai stelnete to mono sti lista.... vagelis From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Fri Jul 6 18:11:52 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:11:52 +0300 Subject: giati dio fores? References: <20010706054944.5393f5a6.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <000f01c1062d$fced7540$1c083493@hp> > re paidia, giati na pairnoume ta idia mail dio fores??? H epanalipsi einai i mitera tis mathisis. ;-) Nikos From papas at wise.gr Fri Jul 6 06:46:32 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 06:46:32 +0300 Subject: giati dio fores? In-Reply-To: <000f01c1062d$fced7540$1c083493@hp> References: <20010706054944.5393f5a6.papas@wise.gr> <000f01c1062d$fced7540$1c083493@hp> Message-ID: <20010706064632.6049d2b4.papas@wise.gr> On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:11:52 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > > re paidia, giati na pairnoume ta idia mail dio fores??? > > H epanalipsi einai i mitera tis mathisis. ;-) > > Nikos > nai i mitera tis mathisis alla kai o pateras tis varemaras. :) vagelis papadogiannakis. From vrahnos at trance.gr Sat Jul 7 10:10:27 2001 From: vrahnos at trance.gr (George Vrahnakis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 03:10:27 -0400 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh In-Reply-To: <000901c10624$e45d65c0$23083493@hp> References: <000901c10624$e45d65c0$23083493@hp> Message-ID: <20010707031027.4454444a.vrahnos@trance.gr> On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:06:45 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > kritikoi. Ti lete na mazeytume gia ena mpanaki notia paralia,hippy, > sex(amma vrume), sea, sun (auta ta exume) Pote den leo oxi sto sex......e se paralia ennoousa. Nikos noties paralies suckz, einai nekres. hersonisos rulez, exei kai af8ono sex, opios exei kati anamesa sta podia tou pou sikonete tote mporei xoris kopo na parei ena ksan8omaliko 18ari pipini. (gia ksenes milame panta) kai den tis xalaei kai to meros e, se paralia 8es ok, sthn toualeta tou club 8es ok, sta vraxia piso apo ton molo 8es ok, sta or8ia mesa se kana skotino dromakii 8es ok. btw sth hersoniso einai to mono meros sthn kriti pou 8a akouseis, sovari mousikh, deite to url sthn ypografh mou na katalavete gia ti mousikh milao :P btw2 o Dj Tiesto 8a pezei sto NRG stis 18 (se periptosh pou yparxei allos aderfos sthn lista) (an anaroti8ike kaneis...oxi den eimai apo hersoniso, aplos pao apo pitsirikas ekei kai to goustaro to meros) -- George Vrahnakis http://www.trance.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 7 11:11:43 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:11:43 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: <000901c10624$e45d65c0$23083493@hp> <20010707031027.4454444a.vrahnos@trance.gr> Message-ID: <002301c106bc$75b68a00$0d083493@hp> > noties paralies suckz, einai nekres. Kala min ta parales.Oi noties paralies nai men den exoun ton kosmo tis xersonisou(kati pou den einai panta kako) alla einai safos kaluteres san paralies.You know thalassa gamati k.l.p. An thes na pas gia mpanio kai oxi gia ofthalmoloutro kai oti prokupsei kalutera notia. > btw sth hersoniso einai to mono meros sthn kriti pou 8a akouseis, sovari mousikh, deite to url sthn >ypografh mou na katalavete gia ti mousikh milao :P Tora prospatheis na xekiniseis flame e?E loipon ego kano pos den katalavaino. ;-) Nikos From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Sat Jul 7 19:40:28 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (J. Tsagatakis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:40:28 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh In-Reply-To: <002301c106bc$75b68a00$0d083493@hp> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, NTG21 wrote: > > noties paralies suckz, einai nekres. > Vories paralies realy sucks, einai nekres (apo tin molinsi) > Kala min ta parales.Oi noties paralies nai men den exoun ton kosmo tis > xersonisou(kati pou den einai panta kako) alla einai safos kaluteres san > paralies.You know thalassa gamati k.l.p. Pou tin eides vre tin thalasa, auto to avathes pragma pou inai piso apo tis ompreles ke gializei ston ilio mirizontas karida apo ta antiliaka pou kseplanei > An thes na pas gia mpanio kai oxi gia ofthalmoloutro kai oti prokupsei > kalutera notia. > > > btw sth hersoniso einai to mono meros sthn kriti pou 8a akouseis, sovari > mousikh, deite to url sthn > >ypografh mou na katalavete gia ti mousikh milao :P > > Tora prospatheis na xekiniseis flame e?E loipon ego kano pos den > katalavaino. ;-) > Xaxaxa to arxisa ego :-) > Nikos > > Giannis From vrahnos at trance.gr Sun Jul 8 03:06:38 2001 From: vrahnos at trance.gr (George Vrahnakis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:06:38 -0400 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh In-Reply-To: References: <002301c106bc$75b68a00$0d083493@hp> Message-ID: <20010707200638.235e68ed.vrahnos@trance.gr> On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:40:28 +0300 (EET DST) "J. Tsagatakis" wrote: Vories paralies realy sucks, einai nekres (apo tin molinsi) as einai :) kalitera me pipinia kai molinsh para me ka8ari 8alasa kai to KAPH dipla (oi geroi kai oi oikogenies pane notia) Pou tin eides vre tin thalasa, auto to avathes pragma pou inai piso apo tis ompreles ke gializei ston ilio mirizontas karida apo ta antiliaka pou kseplanei oxi ego eida afto pou einai prin apo afto to ava8es pragma pou gializei ston hlio pou einai piso apo tis ompreles kai mirizei karida epeidh kseplenei antiliaka... TA PIPIIINIAAA Xaxaxa to arxisa ego :-) lucky you :P -- George Vrahnakis http://www.trance.gr From bogart at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 7 20:19:30 2001 From: bogart at csd.uoc.gr (Artemios G. Voyiatzis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:19:30 +0300 Subject: xm ... Message-ID: Kyrioi, Epeidi eimaste kai on-line, http://lists.hellug.gr/pipermail/herlug/2001/date.html proteinw na sovareutoume :-) Euxaristw, Artemis. From papas at wise.gr Sat Jul 7 20:27:47 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:27:47 +0300 Subject: xm ... References: Message-ID: <000901c1070a$2516c080$0200a8c0@vagos> de nomizo na sovareftoume :) afto eimaste, den einai sosto na alaksoume epeidi eimaste online, einai? xexe, ego imoun sigouros kai i alitheia einai oti den me epireazei ka8olou :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr > Kyrioi, > > Epeidi eimaste kai on-line, > http://lists.hellug.gr/pipermail/herlug/2001/date.html > proteinw na sovareutoume :-) > > Euxaristw, > Artemis. From papas at wise.gr Sat Jul 7 20:31:16 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:31:16 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: <002301c106bc$75b68a00$0d083493@hp> <20010707200638.235e68ed.vrahnos@trance.gr> Message-ID: <001501c1070a$a1f2dd00$0200a8c0@vagos> vre iremiste vre!! mou anoigete tin oreksi, kai to kako einai oti o ka8enas apo ti meria tou exei dikio!!! PS: vre si giorgo, ti einai afti i malakia to pou exeis valei? me mperdevei! -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:40:28 +0300 (EET DST) > "J. Tsagatakis" wrote: > > Vories paralies realy sucks, einai nekres (apo tin molinsi) > as einai :) > kalitera me pipinia kai molinsh para me ka8ari 8alasa kai to KAPH dipla (oi geroi kai oi oikogenies pane notia) > > Pou tin eides vre tin thalasa, auto to avathes pragma pou inai piso apo > tis ompreles ke gializei ston ilio mirizontas karida apo ta antiliaka pou > kseplanei > oxi ego eida afto pou einai prin apo afto to ava8es pragma pou gializei ston hlio pou einai piso apo tis ompreles kai mirizei karida epeidh kseplenei antiliaka... > TA PIPIIINIAAA > Xaxaxa to arxisa ego :-) > lucky you :P > > -- > George Vrahnakis > http://www.trance.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 7 21:01:06 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:01:06 +0300 Subject: Ela na blepw kinhsh References: Message-ID: <002101c1070e$cbded700$3c083493@hp> > > Kala min ta parales.Oi noties paralies nai men den exoun ton kosmo tis > > xersonisou(kati pou den einai panta kako) alla einai safos kaluteres san > > paralies.You know thalassa gamati k.l.p. > > Pou tin eides vre tin thalasa, auto to avathes pragma pou inai piso apo > tis ompreles ke gializei ston ilio mirizontas karida apo ta antiliaka pou > kseplanei Auto sumbainei stis vories.Stis noties den einai etsi. Nikos From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 7 21:03:01 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:03:01 +0300 Subject: Mplouzakia Message-ID: <002f01c1070f$10538f20$3c083493@hp> Mplouzakia pote tha vgaloume? Tha vgaloume kai diaforetika?(p.x. maura i me photos tou linux-babes) Tha ginei maziki paragelia i tha vgalei o kathenas to diko tou to opoio mporei na tropopoiisei? Nikos From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 7 19:02:26 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:02:26 +0300 Subject: xm ... References: <000901c1070a$2516c080$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <000501c106fe$37f5ccc0$22083493@hosaka> Papas wrote: > de nomizo na sovareftoume :) > afto eimaste, den einai sosto na alaksoume epeidi eimaste online, einai? Oxi bebaia! Alla apo an8rwpo pou apokalei ton eauto tou Bogart (Bog-iatzhs Art-emhs) ti perimeneis ;-) P.S To KDE 2.2 vgainei se peripou mia bdomada. 8a ginei xamos, 8a ginei panikos (edw den 8a perasei, o eksygxronismos)! P.S 2 Ti ginetai to source.gr, etoimazetai? From papas at wise.gr Sat Jul 7 22:23:29 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:23:29 +0300 Subject: xm ... References: <000901c1070a$2516c080$0200a8c0@vagos> <000501c106fe$37f5ccc0$22083493@hosaka> Message-ID: <000a01c1071a$4efe0920$0200a8c0@vagos> > Papas wrote: > > > de nomizo na sovareftoume :) > > afto eimaste, den einai sosto na alaksoume epeidi eimaste online, einai? > > Oxi bebaia! > > Alla apo an8rwpo pou apokalei ton eauto tou Bogart (Bog-iatzhs Art-emhs) > ti perimeneis ;-) kala, afton ton exoume xasei kai teleios, apo sinantiseis den perna, sto IF den ir8e, kai eroto: EXEI KAI APAITHSEIS ? Nomizo oti prepei na tou didaksoume tropous tin epomeni fora pou 8a ton doume (enoo tropous na krata to potiri me tin mpira, xexe) > P.S To KDE 2.2 vgainei se peripou mia bdomada. > 8a ginei xamos, 8a ginei panikos (edw den 8a perasei, o eksygxronismos)! popo, se sindiasmo me ton X 4.1 na deis kavles :) alla 8elei kai mixanimata, oxi mpourdes :) a, evala simera to slackware to 8... me ta X4.1, pou se rotane akoma kai pos 8es na alazei to pliktrologio apo agglika se ellinika ! milame paidia, ola on the fly, gamane kai dernoun. valte oloi X4.1. einai kai POLY pio grigora me tin ati rage128 pou exo (isos vevaia na ftaiei kai o 2.4). Anarotiemai an 8a eprepe na einai major release, kai oxi .kati. ma ti kavla... > P.S 2 Ti ginetai to source.gr, etoimazetai? ola ta ma8aineis koufala e? -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr PS: esi eisoun o Reymond ? From sbolis at freemail.gr Sun Jul 8 12:49:43 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (sbolis at freemail.gr) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:49:43 +0300 (EEST) Subject: xm ... In-Reply-To: <000901c1070a$2516c080$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > de nomizo na sovareftoume :) > afto eimaste, den einai sosto na alaksoume epeidi eimaste online, einai? (Extes 3ekinhsa na grafw kati alla moy krasare to Eudora. Twra to pine de masaei ;-)) Loipon, ithela na pw extes.. Afoy de milaei o listarxos eseis ti anhsyxeite ? ;-) Eipame na kratame kapoia prosxhmata stis alles listes, alla edw eimaste emeis ki emeis (kai olo to Inet ;-) ) Kala na pernate, (kai as mhn erthw stis paralies poy LEGATE prin to if ;-))) ) -- Spiros D. Bolis From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Sun Jul 8 14:29:06 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (J. Tsagatakis) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:29:06 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Mplouzakia In-Reply-To: <002f01c1070f$10538f20$3c083493@hp> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, NTG21 wrote: > Mplouzakia pote tha vgaloume? > Tha vgaloume kai diaforetika?(p.x. maura i me photos tou linux-babes) > Tha ginei maziki paragelia i tha vgalei o kathenas to diko tou to opoio > mporei na tropopoiisei? > > Nikos > Gia mpluzakia exo idi kamia dekaria paragelies. Ama me mazika to idio erxete ftinotera as fgalume to idio, allios o kathenas mporei na vgalei otithelei. Pantos paidia am periplakei to pragma ke na exume xromata, megethi, alla logos se kathe mpluzaki, ego den mpaino stin mesi, min mu meinun kai ta mpluzakia diladi :-). Tespa, to afinume mia evdmada, na dume posos kosmos telika endiaferete. Giannis From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Jul 12 12:47:37 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:47:37 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Hush Hash... Message-ID: O Miguel de Icaza einai o leader tou GNOME, kai exei grapsei palaiotera ton Midnight Commander, klp... ------------------ Open Source developer Miguel de Icaza, leader of the GNOME project and founder of Ximian, has been exploring Microsoft's .NET platform with an open mind. When I interviewed him over a month ago, he told me that he was impressed with .NET. Then he was only beginning to think about the implications of Microsoft.NET in the Open Source community. Since then, he has organized a new project called Mono, which will try to build a free implementation of .NET for UNIX systems. Ximian will dedicate some resources to this project, but like any Open Source project, its success will depend heavily on contributions from independent developers. ".NET is an interesting mix of technologies," said Miguel de Icaza. He likes the C# language, and he is particularly impressed by .NET's component architecture and its development tools. .NET provides developers with a state-of-the-art development environment, one that leaps ahead of open source alternatives. "With .NET, Microsoft is starting with a clean slate and building for the future," said de Icaza in an interview. "It's a new development environment for the next twenty years." (Shmeiwsh: O Icaza grafei kai enan C# compiler gia Linux.) ---------------------------------- Nickos Venturas "Smurf exterminator" From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Jul 12 12:48:16 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:48:16 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: The dot in dot NET Message-ID: When asked what .NET says to him about future directions for GNOME, de Icaza replied: "What I wanted to do with GNOME was to close the gap between the proprietary software offering and the free software offering. We're not catching up on the desktop. With .NET, MS has figured out the next generation of development software. So it's worth looking at." He added: "If you're a developer, .NET has a lot of things that you're not going to find in Linux." Certainly, C# is similar to Java, but what de Icaza found intriguing was that .NET was not targeted for a single language. The problem with Java is, of course, that developers must work in Java. As a development environment, .NET is language-agnostic. It allows developers to program in whatever language they like. "In .NET, Microsoft has created the common language runtime (CLR), which is a way for languages to generate code that interoperates easily," said de Icaza. "You can have Visual Basic running in the same environment as C#, Fortan, Pascal, or whatever. You could create a class in C++ and pass it over to a C# object and then have it instantiated as a Visual Basic object. It's a programmer's dream come true." http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/07/09/icaza.html ---------------------------------- Nickos Venturas "Smurf exterminator" From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Jul 12 12:49:14 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:49:14 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: The hell that is libc (Part 3: final) Message-ID: When pressed for additional details on what makes .NET better, de Icaza replied: "The tools are better integrated. You have a debugger, a project manager. It's an IDE with documentation integrated into the system. It's very easy to deploy web services. You write a web service and it's getting packaged into a single directory. One of the things you can do is just dump the directory into your system and it happens to work. They have a signature system for their libraries, so if you develop an application that links into a set of libraries, even if somebody replaces the API for the library, the application is going to continue to run because it links to the original library." He added: "Microsoft basically solved the DLL problem, and that's something that the open source community is not solving. Even though we have the tools to do so, no one is taking the next step to do things right. There's still breakage that's happening in libraries that are shipping with traditional Linux libraries. If you get the latest version of Linux, many applications are going to break because they broke binary compatibility, because you didn't upgrade your application, because there's not a lot of effort going into supporting third-party application developers. So that's why I think .NET is a better application development platform, right now." Visual Studio.NET is "pretty sweet," he added. Miguel is head developer of Gnome. He had previously written Midnight Commander, etc... ---------------------------------- Nickos Venturas "Smurf exterminator" From papas at wise.gr Thu Jul 12 12:51:13 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:51:13 +0300 Subject: peri greek ispell Message-ID: <20010712125113.420435a3.papas@wise.gr> to elliniko ispell apoktise ti diki tou selida, sto http://ispell.source.gr . gia opoion endiaferetai. vagelis From papas at wise.gr Thu Jul 12 12:55:51 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:55:51 +0300 Subject: peri .NET Message-ID: <20010712125551.72402c6c.papas@wise.gr> to .NET einai i ali8eia oti poli to fobamai. Alla afto pou me anisixei pio poli, einai to linux kai o tropos pou einai domimeno, kai i epimoni se enan pirina pou ka8imerina ginetai kai pio kseperasmenos. Gia paradeigma, afto pou anaferei o miquel gia ta libraries, einai ena megalos pain in the ass, an oxi megaliteros, isaksios me ta dlls tis microsoft. me ta opoia dll den dimiourgeitai pleon provlima me to .NET. Pantos, xronia tora to akouo gia ti lisi sta problimata ton dll. Lisi, akoma den exo dei. 8a deiksei, alla an do oti to .NET einai kalo, 8a ta giriso ola se MS, na ste sigouroi, kai tote exo na fao 3ilooooooo. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 12 14:39:15 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:39:15 +0300 Subject: O Karagiozis Linuxas - or - o Linuxas Karagiozis Message-ID: <01071214391500.01445@panas.iworks.gr> Allos tin exei dei me to dotNIET kai allos me ton karagiozi. Exo ginei to episimo kolitiri tu DON SANTSO VULTSIDI tu thrakiku thetru skion. Palios filos, karagiozis kai kalos karagiozopaixtis. Tora 2 meres vlepume karagiozi, simera tha pame Vasilies kai aurio sta Deilina. Opoios thelei as erthei na mas dei (oxi ego den paizo kano ton paidonomo -alvano) stin plateia ton Deilinon. San to Linux - kai kathe ti kalo - einai tzampa. O titlos tis parastasis einai : "Karagiozis New York Athens Night by Night" Meta tha pame gia rempetika na tragudisume. (xthes to ksenixtisame me tragudi mexri tis 5:00 to proi). Vageli exases Κiki-Vaios show. Tha fame tha pioume kai mexri to proi tha formaristume. Ama kaneis gustarei as fanei ayrio stis 9:00 apo ta deilina. An kapoios gustarei kai gia simera as steilei mail (kalia prin tis 5:00) na sinenoithume gia amaksi k.l.p. O mpampakos kai exo sas eperimenume. P.S. Ventura ela oposdipote, tha to gustareis -:P Giannis Kolitiri -- I have no root and i want to screem! From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 12 14:57:05 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:57:05 +0300 Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: <20010712125551.72402c6c.papas@wise.gr> References: <20010712125551.72402c6c.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <01071214570501.01445@panas.iworks.gr> On Thu 12 Jul 2001 12:55, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > to .NET einai i ali8eia oti poli to fobamai. > Os pote palikaria tha zumen me pisia, stous diskus parathiria kai me xaza kautia Format na nanumen tin nixtan to proin na vlepume ollo mple Kalitera mian oran to Linun sto Pici para saranta xronia nton niet kai filaki Kalitera mian oran to Linun sto Pici para saranta xronia nton niet kai filaki Fortsa oi pigkuinoi > > Alla afto pou me anisixei pio poli, einai to linux kai o tropos pou einai > domimeno, kai i epimoni se enan pirina pou ka8imerina ginetai kai pio > kseperasmenos. > Inta les mpre si ekuzulathikes gia tin afugrastikes asxima. Inta sxesi exei mpre o kukutsis (kernel) me to nton niet. Afu mpre eine polisporokukutsatos (modular) kai exei na kanei me ta portoparathiria kai ta marfetia (ports kai devices) kai oxi me tis ntelalidikes liturgies (network) > > Gia paradeigma, afto pou anaferei o miquel gia ta libraries, einai ena > megalos pain in the ass, an oxi megaliteros, isaksios me ta dlls tis > microsoft. > Ma se antithesi me ta DLL tis kontopitharomalakis (Microsoft) ta tefteria pou kratei to ldconfig meso ton links(pos to leme auto re sto Crete KDE translation project) sou epitrepei na exeis oses ekdoseis tsi vivliothikis thes. Etsa den einai? Apla e su rxonati ouranokatevates apo kamia ntelalidikia leiturgia. Tharo pantos pos o Gofis (CORBA) eftiaxtike gia na kanei ekoiona to prama sinteknoi. > > me ta opoia dll den dimiourgeitai pleon provlima me to .NET. > Pantos, xronia tora to akouo gia ti lisi sta problimata ton dll. Lisi, > akoma den exo dei. 8a deiksei, alla an do oti to .NET einai kalo, 8a ta > giriso ola se MS, na ste sigouroi, kai tote exo na fao 3ilooooooo. > Ama patretei o NETlikaneis :-) Gia to ntonNIET asa se po ali fora pio polla pramata. Pantos ama saksume kana ML simplistatsi (compiler) a tin ne patisume askima sinteknoi giati meta a pagosei i ekseliksi tsi gcc. Ase mpre pou i kontopiuaromalatsi e deine anoiktopigo ta trexokatatopia (run time enviroment) tou ntotNIET. Ase mpre netlikanides pou ame o erithrodermos (apache) den paizei to niet ekeina den exei kai polles polles meres. Giakiona emeis sto niet leme OI Etsa? > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr GianoTsagatos -- I have no root and i want to screem! From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 12 15:28:40 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:28:40 +0300 Subject: Hush Hash... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01071215284003.01445@panas.iworks.gr> On Thu 12 Jul 2001 12:47, Count Zero wrote: > O Miguel de Icaza einai o leader tou GNOME, > kai exei grapsei palaiotera ton Midnight Commander, klp... > > (Shmeiwsh: O Icaza grafei kai enan C# compiler gia Linux.) > > ---------------------------------- > Nickos Venturas > "Smurf exterminator" Mporei kapoios na to ananpiksei gia ta baza ? Na anoiksei i kuventa Giannis -- I have no root and i want to screem! From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Jul 12 15:21:28 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (sbolis at freemail.gr) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:21:28 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Edw exoyme wraia dika mas,, poios to xezei (Re: peri .NET) In-Reply-To: <01071214570501.01445@panas.iworks.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: >(pos to leme auto re sto Crete KDE translation project) poy 'nai to, pws to briskoyme, poy plhrwnoyme ? ;-) > Etsa? Am pws ? > GianoTsagatos geia soy re Gianno me ta wraia soy.. -- Spiros D. Bolis From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 12 15:55:37 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:55:37 +0300 Subject: Edw exoyme wraia dika mas,, poios to xezei (Re: peri .NET) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01071215553704.01445@panas.iworks.gr> Dear Mr Sbolis, we get your request regurind our revolutionary new product "Crete KDE". We are unable to fullfill your request reagarding the pricing model of our product. A soon as we release the product to the public our marketing dept. will contanct you with a spam mail. Yours Tsagatakis Giannos Re : More translators wanted. Good knowledge of Crete language required. -- I have no root and i want to screem! From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Jul 12 19:15:45 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:15:45 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Hush Hash... In-Reply-To: <01071215284003.01445@panas.iworks.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: >On Thu 12 Jul 2001 12:47, Count Zero wrote: >> O Miguel de Icaza einai o leader tou GNOME, >> kai exei grapsei palaiotera ton Midnight Commander, klp... >> > >> (Shmeiwsh: O Icaza grafei kai enan C# compiler gia Linux.) >> >> ---------------------------------- >> Nickos Venturas >> "Smurf exterminator" > >Mporei kapoios na to ananpiksei gia ta baza ? Na anoiksei i kuventa Egw, alla aurio... ok? Ama prolabw 8a perasw aurio kai apo karagkiozh. Kalo akougetai... From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Jul 12 19:45:45 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:45:45 +0300 Subject: Edw exoyme wraia dika mas,, poios to xezei (Re: peri .NET) In-Reply-To: <01071215553704.01445@panas.iworks.gr> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010712194447.00a49010@delphi.gunet.gr> > we get your request regurind our revolutionary new >product "Crete KDE". We are unable to fullfill your request reagarding the >pricing model of our product. A soon as we release the product to the public >our marketing dept. will contanct you with a spam mail. Ama de bgei to Service Pack 1821- Postrelease 25634-Patch Level 73643 de dinw fragko ;-) Spiros D. Bolis From fuabap at hotmail.com Fri Jul 13 01:37:08 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:37:08 -0000 Subject: Asxeto Message-ID: Exo ena mikroproblhmataki.... Os gnoston to Internet apotelei terastia phgh gnoseon gia ton meso xrhsth(dhl emena)peri genikon thematon opos to Linux alla kai allon pragmaton opos einai oi erotikes periptykseis se zontanh syndesh(koinos live tsonta)(moy exei meinei apo palia). Epeidh omos oi DNS ths panafonet einai sthn kalyterh ton periptoseon ena xali kai miso kai epeidh sta parathyria an baleis alloys dns plhn ths etairias py syndeese to systhma einai argotero ths argias(pio argo kai apo thn kathysterhsh) me apotelesma na kremaei internet mpeno meso linux.logo aytoy den mporo na parakolouthiso ths epimorfotikes periptykseis atomon diaforetikoy fyloy zontana,opos synithizo kathos tonisa prohgoymenos giati xreiazetai media player ton windows...yparxei lysh?tha hmoyn eygnomon eanlambana apanthsh peri toy thematos... telos stis syzhthseis peri dll kai libc kapoy xathika tha mporoyse kaneis na moy ekshghsei se mail prosopiko an ginetai? :) Mamakis Georgios fuabap at hotmail.com epp27 at epp.teiher.gr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From konstantinos at iworx.gr Fri Jul 13 10:59:09 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:59:09 +0300 Subject: Gia na doume.... Message-ID: <000c01c10b72$192580b0$0d00a8c0@universe> >Ama de bgei to Service Pack 1821- Postrelease 25634-Patch Level 73643 de >dinw fragko Alithia, to noumero "1821" itan tixaio i exei na kanei me kamia epanastasi??? Ektos diladi an ferei to .NET tetoia epanastasi opos tote, ekeino ton kairo.. :))) Telos panton, ego leo na kanoume to diko mas .NET me sinerga tous eaftous mas, topo mia kafeteria tou Heraklion kai mera opote thelete... Ante re!! DIKTIOTHEITE!! :))) Ta leme magkes, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides P.S.: Prepei oposdipote na pame na doume ton Gianno-Kollitiri!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From papas at wise.gr Fri Jul 13 10:46:44 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:46:44 +0300 Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010713104644.284e9be6.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:37:08 -0000 "GEORGE MAMAKIS" wrote: prokeimenou na travas tetoio louki kai NA BALEIS KAI WINDOWS, eimai diate8imenos na sou dia8eto ena 500riko ti vdomada, na pas na pairneis kamia tsonta apo to videoclub. Eimai sigouros oti kai kapoios allos 8a prosfer8ei oste me ti sindromi olon mas na mporeis na vlepeis ka8e mera, ka8e vdomada, olo to xrono, kai na min asxoleisai me fedra pragmata opos ipoanaptikta leitourgika. parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na tis daneisei, sto paidi. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From konstantinos at iworx.gr Fri Jul 13 12:07:26 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:07:26 +0300 Subject: Asxeto References: <20010713104644.284e9be6.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <002801c10b7b$3dbf3a70$0d00a8c0@universe> Re si, rotises to paidi an exei video??? Pantos exo exo ena diko mou pou exei divx cds... :)))) Ta leme, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides ----- Original Message ----- From: "Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης" To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Asxeto > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:37:08 -0000 > "GEORGE MAMAKIS" wrote: > > prokeimenou na travas tetoio louki kai NA BALEIS KAI WINDOWS, eimai diate8imenos na sou dia8eto ena 500riko ti vdomada, na pas na pairneis kamia tsonta apo to videoclub. Eimai sigouros oti kai kapoios allos 8a prosfer8ei oste me ti sindromi olon mas na mporeis na vlepeis ka8e mera, ka8e vdomada, olo to xrono, kai na min asxoleisai me fedra pragmata opos ipoanaptikta leitourgika. > > parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na tis daneisei, sto paidi. > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Jul 13 13:00:19 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:00:19 +0300 Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: <002801c10b7b$3dbf3a70$0d00a8c0@universe> References: <20010713104644.284e9be6.papas@wise.gr> <002801c10b7b$3dbf3a70$0d00a8c0@universe> Message-ID: <01071313001900.01411@panas.iworks.gr> > > parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi > > kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na > tis daneisei, sto paidi. > Diatheto plusio ekpaideytio iliko se CD ROM, arkei na to dei meso tou mtv sto Linuxaki (apsogo) Giannis -- I have no root and i want to screem! From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Fri Jul 13 14:54:07 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:54:07 +0300 (EEST) Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: <01071214570501.01445@panas.iworks.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: >Ma se antithesi me ta DLL tis kontopitharomalakis (Microsoft) ta tefteria pou >kratei to ldconfig meso ton links(pos to leme auto re sto Crete KDE >translation project) sou epitrepei na exeis oses ekdoseis tsi vivliothikis >thes. Etsa den einai? Eeee, sto peripou. Prepei na kratas diafores ekdoseis me to kludge me ta symbolics links, klp. Epishs, ka8e toso spaei h binary compatibility, afou o gcc den einai oti pio proxwrhmeno se auton ton tomea (sthn ekdosh 3 pantws lene oti ekanan kinhseis na dior8w8ei auto). Telos, o ld den einai kai oti pio optimized. Oloi 8ymomaste thn wraia empeiria tou RedHat 7.0 > Apla e su rxonati ouranokatevates apo kamia ntelalidikia leiturgia. > Tharo pantos pos o Gofis (CORBA) eftiaxtike gia na kanei ekoiona to > prama sinteknoi. Mpou gkolaei to Gkormba? Abnto einai gkia na egkeis RPC anameza se ntiafora programmata/glwsses. >Gia to ntonNIET asa se po ali fora pio polla pramata. Pantos ama saksume kana >ML simplistatsi (compiler) a tin ne patisume askima sinteknoi giati meta a >pagosei i ekseliksi tsi gcc. Ase mpre pou i kontopiuaromalatsi e deine >anoiktopigo ta trexokatatopia (run time enviroment) tou ntotNIET. Einai omws anoikto standard ypobalomeno sthn ECMA. H ekdosh ths MS einai apla mia ylopoihsh. Mporoun na ypa3oun kai alles. >Ase mpre netlikanides pou ame o erithrodermos (apache) den paizei to niet >ekeina den exei kai polles polles meres. Ma opoios elegxei ton client elegxei ton Server kai oxi to anapodo. Ama exeis 400 ekkatomyria xrhstes MS kai 100,000 Apache servers, etsi kai bgei kapoio format metadwshs plhroforias mesw diadiktyo kleisto apo thn Microsoft, pou o Apache den mporei na to dei3ei (px. xwris na parabei kapoio copyright), ti 8a apoginei o Apache? 8a einai enas axrhstos server, afou kaneis den 8a exei ton antistoixo client (sy- gkekrimena kapoio HTML browser), alla oloi 8a exoun auton ths MS (px. enan MSML browser). Gi'auto kai to Linux/BSD klp prepei na exoun meridio kai sto .NET. Gia na mhn elegxei mono h MS tous client. From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Fri Jul 13 14:52:46 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:52:46 +0300 (EEST) Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: afou opws ipostirizeis to net einai ena anoikto standart tote pros ti oli i fasaria kai i agwnia? tha ftiaxtei mia opensource ylopoiisi kai tha einai ola wraia (kai tha paizei kai pio kala apo auti tis microsoft opws synithws). vevaia edw ksexname oti i microsoft den sevetai pote ta standarts -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > >Ma se antithesi me ta DLL tis kontopitharomalakis (Microsoft) ta tefteria pou > >kratei to ldconfig meso ton links(pos to leme auto re sto Crete KDE > >translation project) sou epitrepei na exeis oses ekdoseis tsi vivliothikis > >thes. Etsa den einai? > > Eeee, sto peripou. Prepei na kratas diafores ekdoseis me to kludge me > ta symbolics links, klp. Epishs, ka8e toso spaei h binary compatibility, > afou o gcc den einai oti pio proxwrhmeno se auton ton tomea (sthn ekdosh > 3 pantws lene oti ekanan kinhseis na dior8w8ei auto). Telos, o ld den > einai kai oti pio optimized. Oloi 8ymomaste thn wraia empeiria tou > RedHat 7.0 > > > Apla e su rxonati ouranokatevates apo kamia ntelalidikia leiturgia. > > Tharo pantos pos o Gofis (CORBA) eftiaxtike gia na kanei ekoiona to > > prama sinteknoi. > > Mpou gkolaei to Gkormba? Abnto einai gkia na egkeis RPC anameza > se ntiafora programmata/glwsses. > > >Gia to ntonNIET asa se po ali fora pio polla pramata. Pantos ama saksume kana > >ML simplistatsi (compiler) a tin ne patisume askima sinteknoi giati meta a > >pagosei i ekseliksi tsi gcc. Ase mpre pou i kontopiuaromalatsi e deine > >anoiktopigo ta trexokatatopia (run time enviroment) tou ntotNIET. > Einai omws anoikto standard ypobalomeno sthn ECMA. H ekdosh ths > MS einai apla mia ylopoihsh. Mporoun na ypa3oun kai alles. > > From sbolis at freemail.gr Fri Jul 13 18:21:54 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:21:54 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: <20010713104644.284e9be6.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > > parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na tis daneisei, sto paidi. Eidika an prokeitai gia tipota diaxronikes a3ies opws Gkoyzgkoynhs THELW ki egw... -- Spiros D. Bolis Y.G. Den kanw plaka... psaxnw gia arxeiothethsh tainiwn toy hrwa.. From gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr Fri Jul 13 22:02:10 2001 From: gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Maravelias Georgios) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:02:10 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: <01071313001900.01411@panas.iworks.gr> Message-ID: exo to crack to mtv an endiaferete kanis ... ****************************************************** * GEORGIOS MARAVELIAS * * ELECTRICAL ENGENEERING of TEI KRITIS * ****************************************************** On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > > parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi > > > > kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na > > tis daneisei, sto paidi. > > > > Diatheto plusio ekpaideytio iliko se CD ROM, arkei na to dei meso tou mtv sto > Linuxaki (apsogo) > > Giannis > -- > I have no root and i want to screem! > From gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr Fri Jul 13 22:16:15 2001 From: gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Maravelias Georgios) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:16:15 +0300 (EEST) Subject: DVD!!!! Message-ID: gia osous theloun na doune DVD se linux : http://xine.sourceforge.net ****************************************************** * GEORGIOS MARAVELIAS * * ELECTRICAL ENGENEERING of TEI KRITIS * ****************************************************** From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Fri Jul 13 21:44:45 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:44:45 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: Message-ID: epeidi den goustarw ta spasmena programata (an kai se sigekrimenes periptwseis einai anagaia) thelw na sas pliroforisw oti vcd kathws kai otidipote allo video format (kai divx) paizei kai to mplayer pou einai kai free kai mia xara programa -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Maravelias Georgios wrote: > > exo to crack to mtv an endiaferete kanis ... > > > ****************************************************** > * GEORGIOS MARAVELIAS * > * ELECTRICAL ENGENEERING of TEI KRITIS * > ****************************************************** > > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > > > > > parakalo, opoios mporei na voithisei to paidi. Episis, opoios exei idi > > > > > > kapoies videokassetes, parakaleitai na consider na tis xarisei, i esto na > > > tis daneisei, sto paidi. > > > > > > > Diatheto plusio ekpaideytio iliko se CD ROM, arkei na to dei meso tou mtv sto > > Linuxaki (apsogo) > > > > Giannis > > -- > > I have no root and i want to screem! > > > From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 14 14:08:13 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:08:13 +0300 (EEST) Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Nick Apostolakis wrote: >afou opws ipostirizeis to net einai ena anoikto standart tote pros ti oli >i fasaria kai i agwnia? tha ftiaxtei mia opensource ylopoiisi kai tha >einai ola wraia Exeis akousei gia to Passport ths Microsoft? Auto einai to problhma. Ama piasei to Passport paei kai web kai linux (8a meinoun bebaia meri- kes ekatontades xiliades hackers kai fans, alla auto den einai oti kalytero gia ena OS) > (kai tha paizei kai pio kala apo auti tis microsoft opws synithws). To "ws synh8ws" e3artatai apo to gia ti milame. Px. o Apache paizei pio kala apo IIS. Alla gia pes mia office suite Open Source pou paizei pio kala apo to Office. > vevaia edw ksexname oti i microsoft den sevetai pote ta standarts Auto e3artatai apo thn periptwsh. Ama deis px. ta standards tou W3C org gia HTML, Javascript kai CSS 1 kai 2, o Internet Explorer ta sevetai poly perissotero apo oti to Netscape. Oso gia ton Mozzi- la, ypoti8etai oti autos ta sebetai apolyta, alla polles leitour- gies den einai ylopoihmenes kai alles ton krasharoun. To Linux den einai to teleiotero leitourgiko paei kai teleiwse. Einai ena OS kai auto, exei problhmata kai prwterhmata opws ola. Kante ena: rgrep FIXME /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.3 opou exete ton kwdika tou kernel telos pantws, h ena rgrep gia XXX h' TODO, kai 8a breite ekatontades anoikta bugs kai problhmata. (FIXME, XXX kai TODO einai standard tags pou ba- zoun sta comments oi programmatistes gia na briskoun shmeia me bugs kai la8h argotera). Mporeite epishs na grafteite sthn lista tou Kernel (opou einai o Linus, o Cox klp) h' opoia syntonizei thn diadikasia programmatismou tou kernel (200+ mails thn hmera). Ekei 8a deis tis syzhthseis kai ta problhmata apo prwto xeri. To oti "Open Source == kalo programma" den einai ka8olou anagkastiko, kai kanei kako sto Linux (kai sto BSD) na to vlepoume etsi to 8ema. My 0.02$ From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 14 15:22:51 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:22:51 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Nick Apostolakis wrote: >epeidi den goustarw ta spasmena programata H idiokthsia einai kloph. (Kropotkin ?) From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 14 15:31:27 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:31:27 +0300 (EEST) Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A, pera apo ton Miguel kai tous GNOME typous, kai h GNU 3ekinhse mia ane3arthth prospa8eia yloipoihshs tou .NET: While .NET has some very sound ideas, problems arise with its implementation, especially with the Authentication/Authorization systems which are centralized to Microsoft, and with Microsft's vision for "web services". DotGNU will use a decentralized paradigm, no single company, server or entity will control authorization. Secondly DotGNU will emphasize security, it will use encryption wherever possible to keep user data secure and hidden. http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/ From ace at irc.gr Sat Jul 14 12:51:34 2001 From: ace at irc.gr (Sofos Haris) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:51:34 +0300 Subject: peri .NET References: Message-ID: <005001c10c4a$918c78a0$0100a8c0@cobraiii> To dotNET 8a einai opensource? an oxi oso kalo kai na einai 8a tou leipoun polla... an nai katw apo poia adeia? kai poios 8a katsei na kanei veltiwsh sto dotNET gia na to poulaei h Micro$$$$$oft? H mhpws nomizete pws an ginei pote opensource o perissoteros kosmos 8a katsei na programmatisei uper tou? Oloi exploits 8a vgazoun gia na to skizoun:> Xarhs From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 14 18:59:26 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:59:26 +0300 (EEST) Subject: peri .NET In-Reply-To: <005001c10c4a$918c78a0$0100a8c0@cobraiii> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Sofos Haris wrote: > To dotNET 8a einai opensource? Oxi, alla 8a einai ena anoikto standard. > an oxi oso kalo kai na einai 8a tou leipoun polla... To mono pou leipei apo ena mh Open Source programma einai oti den einai free (as in thought). Pera apo auto, tipota allo den tou leipei *e3' orismou*. Mporei na einai kalo h' kako, alla auto asxeto me to oti den einai Open Source h' bazaar like. O kosmos ftiaxnei programmata poly perissotera xronia apo otan egine gnwsto to Open Source (kata to '96). Epishs, to UNIX, h C kai ta basika programmata ths GNU den ginane me bazzaar style. > an nai katw apo poia adeia? kai poios 8a katsei na kanei veltiwsh sto > dotNET gia na to poulaei h Micro$$$$$oft? H GNU kai mia omada tou GNOME pantws etoimazoun hdh dikes tous ekdoseis. Sthn selida ths GNU grafei: sthn poreia [ths ylopoihshs] 8a paroume kapoies kales idees apo thn Microsoft kai auth 8a parei apo mas. > H mhpws nomizete pws an ginei pote opensource o perissoteros kosmos > 8a katsei na programmatisei uper tou? O perissoteros Linux kosmos. Oi programatistes MFC omws einai ligo perissoteroi se ari8mo (ws tragika perissoteroi). Prepei na antepite8oume aderfia... From lefteris at kingkong.edu.uoc.gr Mon Jul 16 06:28:35 2001 From: lefteris at kingkong.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:28:35 +0300 (EEST) Subject: to linux kanei animation Message-ID: <20010716062537.T1652-100000@kingkong.edu.uoc.gr> Poia sxesh exei o basilias twn zwwn h to chicken run me to linux? http://www2.linuxjournal.com/cgi-bin/frames.pl/lj-issues/issue88/4803.html Lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From papas at wise.gr Mon Jul 16 15:45:16 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:45:16 +0300 Subject: peri .NET References: <005001c10c4a$918c78a0$0100a8c0@cobraiii> Message-ID: <002a01c10df5$3a617a60$0500a8c0@wearable> Gia deite re... Milise kai to paidi pou mas eixe taxei omilia gia to install festival alla den ir8e kai agnoouse ta mail mas toso kairo. welcome back asote yie :) -- ??????????????? ????????? http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr > > To dotNET 8a einai opensource? > an oxi oso kalo kai na einai 8a tou leipoun polla... > an nai katw apo poia adeia? kai poios 8a katsei na kanei veltiwsh sto > dotNET > gia na to poulaei h Micro$$$$$oft? H mhpws nomizete pws an ginei pote > opensource o perissoteros kosmos 8a katsei na programmatisei uper tou? > Oloi exploits 8a vgazoun gia na to skizoun:> > > Xarhs From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 17:28:01 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: KOffice 1.1b3 Message-ID: <20010716142801.25151.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> Γεια σε όλους, θέλω μια σουίτα γραφείου (Word, Excel κυρίως) που να δουλεύει με True Type Unicode fonts, να ανοίγει αρχεία M$ Office 2000 (ηλίθιοι συνεργάτες από άλλες εταιρίες ...) και να μην ψοφάει κάθε 5 λεπτά. Το StarOffice που χρησιμοποιώ τώρα κάνει τα πάντα εκτός από τα True Type, το OpenOffice είναι ωραίο αλλά αρκετά unstable ακόμα για εταιρικό περιβάλλον. Έτσι σκέφτηκα το KOffice, το οποίο έχει και αρκετά όμορφο interface ! Αυτό που θέλω να ρωτήσω - γιατί από πλευράς χρόνου είμαι υπερβολικά περιορισμένος για δοκιμές - είναι αν το χρησιμοποιεί κανείς και αν κάνει αυτά που ζητάω ώστε να το κατεβάσω και να το compilάρω μπας και δούμε κι εμείς λίγη χαρά στα σκέλια μας.... Φιλικά, Μανώλης __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Jul 16 17:39:07 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:39:07 +0300 (EEST) Subject: KOffice 1.1b3 In-Reply-To: <20010716142801.25151.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: >Γεια σε όλους, >θέλω μια σουίτα γραφείου (Word, Excel κυρίως) που να >δουλεύει με True Type Unicode fonts, να ανοίγει αρχεία >M$ Office 2000 (ηλίθιοι συνεργάτες από άλλες εταιρίες >...) και να μην ψοφάει κάθε 5 λεπτά. Το StarOffice που >χρησιμοποιώ τώρα κάνει τα πάντα εκτός από τα True >Type, το OpenOffice είναι ωραίο αλλά αρκετά unstable >ακόμα για εταιρικό περιβάλλον. Έτσι σκέφτηκα το >KOffice, το οποίο έχει και αρκετά όμορφο interface ! >Αυτό που θέλω να ρωτήσω - γιατί από πλευράς χρόνου >είμαι υπερβολικά περιορισμένος για δοκιμές - είναι αν >το χρησιμοποιεί κανείς και αν κάνει αυτά που ζητάω >ώστε να το κατεβάσω και να το compilάρω μπας και δούμε >κι εμείς λίγη χαρά στα σκέλια μας.... Oxi, kalytera meine sto StarOffice gia thn wra. To Koffice exei arketa problhmata akoma na anoigei kai na swzei arxeia Office 2000. Gia kapoia doulevei (kai me ellhnika) gia alla oxi, idiaitera an exoun diafora e3tra kolpa, wordart, periergous pinakes klp... Apo thn prohgoumh ekdosh exei beltiw8ei poly, alla ta import/export filtra gia MS-Office den exoun ginei to idio kala. An to 8eleis gia na grafeis kai na swzeis sto diko tou format pantws, no problem. Epishs, kalytera perimene thn kykloforia tou stable Koffice (den argei), kai oxi thn b3 ekdosh, giati san beta 8a exei perissotera bugs. From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 18:06:39 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: .NET & Linux Message-ID: <20010716150639.75639.qmail@web12601.mail.yahoo.com> Afou vlepw oti i syzitisi gia to .NET kala kratei & kata genikh omologia vlepw 8etikh kinhsh sxetika me to 8ema (den exw proswpikh apopsi akoma, den to exw melethsei oso 8a i8ela) para8etw to parakatw link : http://www.softwareuncovered.com/news/cgram-20010716.html#1 Manolis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From fuabap at hotmail.com Mon Jul 16 16:09:08 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:09:08 -0000 Subject: Asxeto Message-ID: loipon sas eyxaristo oloys gia thn bohtheia poy phgate na prosferete alla xoris plaka tora.... ti ginetai se eiptoseis poy thes na deis live video feeds eite meso web eite meso video conference me aythn thn logikh anefera kai to paradeigma to opoio sxoliasthke poikilotropos.. tespa eyxaristo gia tis apopseis poy ekfrasthkan kai perimeno kai se apanthsh se sythn thn erothsh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Jul 16 18:22:57 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:22:57 +0300 (EEST) Subject: .NET & Linux In-Reply-To: <20010716150639.75639.qmail@web12601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: >Afou vlepw oti i syzitisi gia to .NET kala kratei & >kata genikh omologia vlepw 8etikh kinhsh sxetika me to >8ema (den exw proswpikh apopsi akoma, den to exw >melethsei oso 8a i8ela) para8etw to parakatw link : > >http://www.softwareuncovered.com/news/cgram-20010716.html#1 > >Manolis Den exw prolabei na to grapsw gia ta /baza akoma, euelpisto pantws mia ek twn hmewn... From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Jul 16 18:46:13 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:46:13 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Programming 13 years ago... In-Reply-To: <20010716150639.75639.qmail@web12601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Software Development 13 years ago (...) At this point in time Borland was the cool company, IBM was dull and Microsoft was the underdog. To me and my colleagues Borland produced the coolest set of tools like Turbo Pascal and Turbo C and a few more which I cant remember. The point was I could write a 20,000 line Turbo Pascal program and compile it in about two minutes. Of course it didnt matter that to write an application could take months as you spent time writing interfaces or more often than not, menu systems. In those days of limited computing resources we spent too much time perhaps, trying to gain an extra few bytes here and there and make our code run faster. We agonized over languages like Modula-2 and wondered if switching to compilers from companys like Topspeed would speed up our code. The point was we were working very close to the core of the computer but were paying the price by producing code where every program had a different interface and almost always was written from the ground up rather than utilizing old routines etc. (...) Den moiazei me to Unix shmera? From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Jul 16 19:55:21 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:55:21 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi Message-ID: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> Paides ti tha legate gia kamia sunantisoula gia kana kraso kapoia stigmi? Akouo protaseis/apopseis. Nikos From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Jul 16 20:42:50 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:42:50 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi In-Reply-To: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> References: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> Message-ID: <01071620425000.12651@panas.iworks.gr> On Mon 16 Jul 2001 19:55, NTG21 wrote: > Paides ti tha legate gia kamia sunantisoula gia kana kraso kapoia stigmi? > Akouo protaseis/apopseis. > > Nikos Aman pia epi tu singekrimenu adelfia. Topothetithite. Katatheto tis protaseis mu : a) Sinanantisi sto Agio Tito, sizitisi gia kana 2oro gia to pou tha pame ke meta spitia mas (xaxaxa to exo ksanapathei) b) Gia krasi sto "kalitera" (Paraliako magazi stin amudara pano stin amo gia ouzaki, psaraki) c) "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos d) Stin doksa gia rakes kai pitakia (metaksi allon - thelei amaksi kato apo ton strumpula) e) Stin "kula" gia sovarus potes rakis (ask sbolis) Pigame merikoi tin proti mera tu IF. 2 potirakia raki + mezes 200drx. Eytixos ta videos me ta methisia ke ta rezilikia mas den emfanistikan akomi. (Xanioporta) Gia tin ora kai mera tis sinantisis ti lete gia Pempti 9:30 ston Agio Mina, e Agio Tito, e Agio Antonio..... Loipon telika sto gnosto meros (agio tito) stis 9:30. As min eine Paraskeyi mpas ke kanenas tixerakias (kufala) thelei na paei kata notia. Anameno tis protaseis-topothetiseis-paratiriseis sas. A kai gia na min to ksexaso : Sto NIET leme OI !! Giannis -- I have no root and i want to screem! From thodoris at cs.teiher.gr Mon Jul 16 20:37:41 2001 From: thodoris at cs.teiher.gr (Theodoros Pitikaris) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:37:41 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Asxeto In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An enoies video o demand tote prepei na deis to plhthos ton video servers pou yparxoun kantw apo thn platoforma linux/unix. Allwste poly syntoma tha yparxei kai sxetiko ereunitiko project sta tei pou tha analavei o omoideaths mas giorgos vasilopoulos. To conference tools einai pragmatika polla kai pisteuw arketa anwtera apo ton confernce server tis akatanomasths M$. Mia volta sthn freshmeat tha se peisei --thodoris at cs.teiher.gr- On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, GEORGE MAMAKIS wrote: > > > loipon sas eyxaristo oloys gia thn bohtheia poy phgate na prosferete > alla xoris plaka tora.... ti ginetai se eiptoseis poy thes na deis live > video feeds eite meso web eite meso video conference > me aythn thn logikh anefera kai to paradeigma to opoio sxoliasthke > poikilotropos.. > tespa eyxaristo gia tis apopseis poy ekfrasthkan kai perimeno kai se > apanthsh se sythn thn erothsh > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Mon Jul 16 21:47:45 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:47:45 +0300 (EEST) Subject: mia kai kouventiazoume gia to .NET Message-ID: mia kai milame gia to .NET http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html ena copy paste apo to freshmeat. to grafw gia na deiksw oti idi kati exei arxisei na kineitai stin opensource koinotita (xwris vevaia na kserw an auto to project einai kati ousiastiko). vevaia opws leei kai o tsagatakis sto NIET leme OI (mexri na ksedialynei toulaxiston to pragma) -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Jul 17 17:13:39 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:13:39 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> <01071620425000.12651@panas.iworks.gr> Message-ID: <004301c10eca$add9cf80$27083493@hp> > On Mon 16 Jul 2001 19:55, NTG21 wrote: > > Paides ti tha legate gia kamia sunantisoula gia kana kraso kapoia stigmi? > > Akouo protaseis/apopseis. > > > > Nikos > > Aman pia epi tu singekrimenu adelfia. Topothetithite. Katatheto tis > protaseis mu : > > a) Sinanantisi sto Agio Tito, sizitisi gia kana 2oro gia to pou tha pame ke > meta spitia mas (xaxaxa to exo ksanapathei) > > b) Gia krasi sto "kalitera" (Paraliako magazi stin amudara pano stin amo gia > ouzaki, psaraki) > > c) "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. > Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos Kalo akougete.Ti lete?Vasika leo na kanoume mia apotoxinosi apo tin raki. > d) Stin doksa gia rakes kai pitakia (metaksi allon - thelei amaksi kato apo > ton strumpula) > > e) Stin "kula" gia sovarus potes rakis (ask sbolis) Pigame merikoi tin proti > mera tu IF. 2 potirakia raki + mezes 200drx. Eytixos ta videos me ta methisia > ke ta rezilikia mas den emfanistikan akomi. (Xanioporta) > > Gia tin ora kai mera tis sinantisis ti lete gia Pempti 9:30 ston Agio Mina, e > Agio Tito, e Agio Antonio..... > > Loipon telika sto gnosto meros (agio tito) stis 9:30. As min eine Paraskeyi > mpas ke kanenas tixerakias (kufala) thelei na paei kata notia. > > Anameno tis protaseis-topothetiseis-paratiriseis sas. > > A kai gia na min to ksexaso : Sto NIET leme OI !! > > Giannis > -- > I have no root and i want to screem! > From papas at wise.gr Tue Jul 17 18:03:30 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:03:30 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi In-Reply-To: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> References: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> Message-ID: <20010717180330.4764a23a.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:55:21 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > Paides ti tha legate gia kamia sunantisoula gia kana kraso kapoia stigmi? > Akouo protaseis/apopseis. > > Nikos > paidia, pantrevetai i kori tou nonou mou kai distixos de nomizo na mporeso na r8o, ektos an to apofasisoume paraskevi i savato :) tote, efxaristos na sas deikso (gia alli mia fora) pos pinoune :-P -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Tue Jul 17 18:11:17 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (Nikos Xatzimpontozis) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:11:17 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Sunantisi In-Reply-To: <20010717180115.72c4018a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: > > Paides ti tha legate gia kamia sunantisoula gia kana kraso kapoia stigmi? > > Akouo protaseis/apopseis. > > > > Nikos > > > paidia, pantrevetai i kori tou nonou mou kai distixos de nomizo na mporeso na r8o, ektos an to apofasisoume paraskevi i savato :) > tote, efxaristos na sas deikso (gia alli mia fora) pos pinoune :-P Na to allaxoume gia paraskeui i savvato loipon? Mas prokalei kai den mporoume na to afisoume etsi. |----------------------| | Nikos Xatzimpontozis | | hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr | |----------------------| From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Wed Jul 18 11:35:09 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:35:09 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> <20010717180330.4764a23a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B554A3D.BD3F28B2@phaistosnetworks.gr> Kala ama diabasei kaneis ta mail pio pi0ano einia na mas perasei gia mail list Anonymwn Alkoolikwn para linuxadwn :> Ta sabatokyriaka leipw apo to hrakleio alla gia kamia paraskeuh mesa -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] Tel:(+30 81) 391882/Fax:(+30 892) 23206 Phaistos Networks S.A. - A DOL Digital Company From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Wed Jul 18 18:59:44 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:59:44 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi In-Reply-To: <3B554A3D.BD3F28B2@phaistosnetworks.gr> References: <007701c10e18$19f0cce0$2c083493@hp> <20010717180330.4764a23a.papas@wise.gr> <3B554A3D.BD3F28B2@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <01071818594400.03875@panas.iworks.gr> On Wed 18 Jul 2001 11:35, you wrote: > Kala ama diabasei kaneis ta mail pio pi0ano einia na mas perasei gia > mail list Anonymwn Alkoolikwn para linuxadwn :> > Thimame itan ena Savato pou evrexe otan sto spiti enos <> eida ena mikro PC na trexei UNIX. Den tu eipa tipota giati tote ton theorusa akoma filo mou. Alla autos mou leei : dike mou theleis na dokimaseis ligo Linux ke mu etoine to pliktrologio, kathisa mprosta sto mixanima me tin gialisteri othoni. Eytixos kati mesa mu me stamatise ke efiga trexontas apo ekei. Alla tin alli mera ta vimata mu me odigisan sxedon para tin thelisi mu sto skoteino ayto domatio me tin othoni pou gializei. Ektote den mporo na kathiso makria. Ektote den to exo afisei. Exo ftasei akoma sto simeio na vazo ke allous ston kosmo tu Linux. Exo katastrepsei ke ego me tin seira mu polus filus ke gnostus. Oi goneis touw apeilun na me spasun sto ksilo. Dokimasa na dulepso sta Windows gia na ksekoliso. Alla ta daktila mu me trone na kano reboot na mpo sto Linuxaki. Gia na to apofigo arxisa to alkool. Otan epistrepso spiti methismenos den kathome mprosta sto Linuxaki. Alla tin alli mera i tha prepei na pio i na kathiso sto Linux. Elpizo me ligo alkool akoma na to kseperaso. Exume mazeytei mia omada simparastaseis ke kanume sinedries me alkool gia na glitosume. Elate ke eseis. To Linux sas katasterefei tin zoi. Giannis Tsagatakis Anonimoi Linuxades Irakleiou -- I have no root and i want to screem! From papas at wise.gr Thu Jul 19 01:16:28 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:16:28 +0300 Subject: sinantisoula :))))) Message-ID: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Kirioi, Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. Exo dedomenous tous: * Tsagataki (gianni) * Tzagaraki (gabriel) * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) * Pitikari (8odori) * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) * Kissandraki (giorgo) * Papadogiannaki (ego) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From gabriel at stsnet.gr Wed Jul 18 19:59:13 2001 From: gabriel at stsnet.gr (Gabriel Tzagkarakis) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:59:13 +0300 Subject: sinantisoula :))))) References: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B55C061.4060802@stsnet.gr> hello, sygnwmh paidia alla kanonisa x8es na pareure8w se ena apoxairetistirio tsimpousi thn idia mera . Feugei enas filos apo hrakleio giati phre ptyxio se anti8esh me mas tous akadhmaika apotuxhmenous :-) Elpizw na perasete kala. ??????????????? ???????? wrote: > Kirioi, > > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. > > parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. > > Exo dedomenous tous: > * Tsagataki (gianni) - Tzagaraki (gabriel) > * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) > * Pitikari (8odori) > * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) > * Kissandraki (giorgo) > * Papadogiannaki (ego) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr P.S. : never eat more than you can lift -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gabriel Tzagkarakis STSNet s.a. Systems Administrator =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Wed Jul 18 21:06:29 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:06:29 +0300 (EEST) Subject: sinantisoula :))))) In-Reply-To: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: zilevw gamwto -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Kirioi, > > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. > > parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. > > Exo dedomenous tous: > * Tsagataki (gianni) > * Tzagaraki (gabriel) > * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) > * Pitikari (8odori) > * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) > * Kissandraki (giorgo) > * Papadogiannaki (ego) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From konstantinos at iworx.gr Thu Jul 19 10:05:01 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:05:01 +0300 Subject: sinantisoula :))))) References: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <001901c11021$224e5a50$0d00a8c0@universe> Kai ego mesa eimai.... Etsi gia na exete kai ton antagonismo... :))))) Ta leme, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides ----- Original Message ----- From: "Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης" To: "herlug list" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: sinantisoula :))))) > Kirioi, > > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. > > parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. > > Exo dedomenous tous: > * Tsagataki (gianni) > * Tzagaraki (gabriel) > * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) > * Pitikari (8odori) > * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) > * Kissandraki (giorgo) > * Papadogiannaki (ego) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From thodoris at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 19 00:57:20 2001 From: thodoris at cs.teiher.gr (Theodoros Pitikaris) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:57:20 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: sinantisoula :))))) In-Reply-To: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: Mesa ! H parakseuh h savato an einai gia einai kai o gabriel ekei exw na sas dhgihthw kai mia kataplhktikh istoria sxetika me to gegonos oti ta NT sthn pragmatikothta sterfontai kata ths Pagosmiopoihshs kai yper tis dhmokratias kai twn ftwxwn kai adynatwn, (opios eide to prwi ths kyriakhs ths selides tou Dhmou Irakliou tha xerei :> ) , se tetoio vathmo pou skeftomai na idrisoume mia nea koinothta yper tis M$ :) --thodoris at cs.teiher.gr- On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Kirioi, > > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. > > parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. > > Exo dedomenous tous: > * Tsagataki (gianni) > * Tzagaraki (gabriel) > * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) > * Pitikari (8odori) > * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) > * Kissandraki (giorgo) > * Papadogiannaki (ego) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Jul 19 10:43:07 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:43:07 +0300 Subject: sinantisoula :))))) In-Reply-To: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> References: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <01071910430700.07638@panas.iworks.gr> > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" gia > krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. Einai konta stin > diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei o giannis o tsagatakis. > > parakalountai osoi er8oun na kanoun ena reply se afto to post, gia na > paroun 8arros kai oi alloi. > > Exo dedomenous tous: > * Tsagataki (gianni) > * Tzagaraki (gabriel) > * NTG-21 (xatzimpoultaza) > * Pitikari (8odori) > * Vasilopoulo (giorgo) > * Kissandraki (giorgo) > * Papadogiannaki (ego) > Count on me. P.S. Thodori, Vasilopule ke kathe kalos anthropos. Tha kano tin metakomisi simera stis 7:00. Mporeite? -- I have no root and i want to screem! From papas at wise.gr Fri Jul 20 10:49:52 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:49:52 +0300 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20010720104952.38f6f9f2.papas@wise.gr> loipon, isxiei simera stis 21:00 i sinantisi stou pipi 8a er8ei kai o M tzanidakis. ta leme ekei -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Jul 21 17:48:11 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:48:11 +0300 (EEST) Subject: sinantisoula :))))) In-Reply-To: <20010719011628.24665ad5.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" > gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. > Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei > o giannis o tsagatakis. Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton "Liontomhtso" sthn mia pleura (pros Crono). Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton "Katsouna" sthn anapodh kateu8ynsh. Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton Marinopoulo, anevainontas E8nikhs Antistasews. Apo ta McDonalds mexri Bowling center, sthn apenanti pleura. Merika stena pisw apo ta McDonalds, de3ia kai aristera (apo thn meria me thn asfalistikh kai apo thn allh me to kommwthrio). Kai erwtw... Pou htan "Stou Piph", epitelous, gamw to swap mou????!!!! From ntg21 at linux.gr Sat Jul 21 18:03:28 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:03:28 +0300 Subject: sinantisoula :))))) References: Message-ID: <000701c111f6$4ce9c3e0$36083493@hp> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > > > Proteino tin paraskevi stis 21:00 na vre8oume gia fai "Stu Pipi" > > gia krasi-psaronefri-fai-mezedakia kai pola glika sto telos. > > Einai konta stin diastayrosi Ikaru-Ethinkis Antistaseos opos leei > > o giannis o tsagatakis. > > Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton "Liontomhtso" sthn mia pleura (pros Crono). > Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton "Katsouna" sthn anapodh kateu8ynsh. > Apo ta McDonalds mexri ton Marinopoulo, anevainontas E8nikhs Antistasews. > Apo ta McDonalds mexri Bowling center, sthn apenanti pleura. > Merika stena pisw apo ta McDonalds, de3ia kai aristera (apo thn meria > me thn asfalistikh kai apo thn allh me to kommwthrio). > > Kai erwtw... > > Pou htan "Stou Piph", epitelous, gamw to swap mou????!!!! Re seis irthe telika.Dustuxos gia esena psiloargises.H taverna den eixe kamia sxesi me Ikarou kai ethnikis antistaseos.Opos pigaineis pros Crono sto dexi sou xeri exei ena xasapiko.Proxoras mesa sto steno pou exei ekei kai meta apo kamia 300aria metra to vriskeis. Eprepe na rotiseis kana periptera na sou pei.(Emeis rotisame ton xasapi ;-) ) Nikos From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Thu Aug 2 12:41:18 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:41:18 +0300 Subject: keimeno wanted Message-ID: <3B69203E.5148EB63@phaistosnetworks.gr> Paidia 0elw to "Hire An Administrator HowTo" :) to exei kaneis? -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Aug 2 13:04:17 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:04:17 +0300 Subject: keimeno wanted In-Reply-To: <3B69203E.5148EB63@phaistosnetworks.gr> References: <3B69203E.5148EB63@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <01080213041703.01050@panas.iworx.gr> On Thu 02 Aug 2001 12:41, Kissandrakis S. George wrote: > Paidia > > 0elw to "Hire An Administrator HowTo" :) to exei kaneis? An to exei kapoios as to steilei ke emena. Tsagatakis Giannis -- I have no root and i want to scream! From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Aug 2 14:09:48 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:09:48 +0300 (EEST) Subject: keimeno wanted In-Reply-To: <01080213041703.01050@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > On Thu 02 Aug 2001 12:41, Kissandrakis S. George wrote: > > Paidia > > > > 0elw to "Hire An Administrator HowTo" :) to exei kaneis? > > An to exei kapoios as to steilei ke emena. den to h3era... to epsa3a se google/deja kai nato http://www.foad.org/~abby/humor/how-to-hire-a-sysadmin.html Einai ayto ? -- Spiros D. Bolis From papas at wise.gr Thu Aug 2 18:37:57 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:37:57 +0300 Subject: keimeno wanted In-Reply-To: References: <01080213041703.01050@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: <20010802183757.1653faca.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:09:48 +0300 (EEST) Spiros Bolis wrote: > den to h3era... > to epsa3a se google/deja kai nato > > http://www.foad.org/~abby/humor/how-to-hire-a-sysadmin.html > > > Einai ayto ? > -- > Spiros D. Bolis xexexe, oxi, alla kalo einai kai afto :) mou arese to --- cut here --- "Have you ever beaten or killed a user?" --- cut here --- -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Aug 3 11:43:14 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:43:14 +0300 Subject: keimeno wanted In-Reply-To: <3B69203E.5148EB63@phaistosnetworks.gr> References: <3B69203E.5148EB63@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <01080311431400.00135@black> On Thursday 02 August 2001 12:41, Kissandrakis S. George wrote: > Paidia > > 0elw to "Hire An Administrator HowTo" :) to exei kaneis? An breite to kanoniko steilte to url sth lista na to 3eroume oloi :) Lefteris From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Fri Aug 3 13:25:33 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:25:33 +0300 Subject: Hire an administrator HOWTO Message-ID: <3B6A7C1D.6B883BC1@phaistosnetworks.gr> Edw to ebala... http://centaurus.phaistosnetworks.gr/~kissand/Hire-An-Admin-HOWTO.html -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] From ntg21 at linux.gr Fri Aug 3 15:31:01 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:31:01 +0300 Subject: Hire an administrator HOWTO References: <3B6A7C1D.6B883BC1@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <000f01c11c18$2855f7c0$42083493@hp> > Edw to ebala... > > http://centaurus.phaistosnetworks.gr/~kissand/Hire-An-Admin-HOWTO.html Kai to lega ego oti kati mou thimizei o titlos..... Nikos From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Sat Aug 4 11:54:34 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:54:34 +0300 Subject: Pao gia mpanakia Message-ID: <000701c11cc3$15b70180$3e083493@hp> Agapitoi filoi me xara sas enimerono oti epitelous pao diakopes!!!!!!(Ierapetra) Opote Spuro anelave esy. Ta leme se 15 meres.Have fun osoi eiste akoma Hrakleio (pou den nomizo na einai kai polloi edo pou ta leme) Listarxos out. Nikos From kissand at phaistos.phaistosnetworks.gr Thu Jun 28 10:56:28 2001 From: kissand at phaistos.phaistosnetworks.gr (George kissandrakis) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:56:28 +0300 Subject: mail list/clubs Message-ID: <200106280756.f5S7uS915677@phaistos.phaistosnetworks.gr> Geia sas Xwris na 0elw na diafhmisw tipota yparxei kai to option na stelnetai mail sta melh tou club Gia mail lista twra Exw sthmeno enan majordomo sto pathfinder na ftiaxw ekei mia lista? to mail 0a einia san kati se @pathfinder.gr Alla na rwthsw den exoume mail lista (authn edw) ? h katalaba kati la0os? -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] Tel:(+30 81) 391882/Fax:(+30 892) 23206 Phaistos Networks S.A. - A DOL Digital Company From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Thu Jun 28 10:55:36 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:55:36 +0300 Subject: mail list/clubs Message-ID: <3B3AE2F8.8A3CA1BF@phaistosnetworks.gr> Geia sas Xwris na 0elw na diafhmisw tipota yparxei kai to option na stelnetai mail sta melh tou club Gia mail lista twra Exw sthmeno enan majordomo sto pathfinder na ftiaxw ekei mia lista? to mail 0a einia san kati se @pathfinder.gr Alla na rwthsw den exoume mail lista (authn edw) ? h katalaba kati la0os? -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] Tel:(+30 81) 391882/Fax:(+30 892) 23206 Phaistos Networks S.A. - A DOL Digital Company From papas at wise.gr Fri Aug 17 22:05:57 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:05:57 +0300 Subject: mail list/clubs In-Reply-To: <3B3AE2F8.8A3CA1BF@phaistosnetworks.gr> References: <3B3AE2F8.8A3CA1BF@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <20010817220557.539d81b6.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:55:36 +0300 "Kissandrakis S. George" wrote: > Geia sas > > Xwris na 0elw na diafhmisw tipota yparxei kai to option na stelnetai > mail > sta melh tou club > > Gia mail lista twra > Exw sthmeno enan majordomo sto pathfinder na ftiaxw ekei mia lista? > to mail 0a einia san kati se @pathfinder.gr > Alla na rwthsw den exoume mail lista (authn edw) ? h katalaba kati > la0os? re giorgo, afou einai lisman afti edo :) herlug at lists.hellug.gr den xriazetai kamia alli :) Apla exei pesei nekra logo tou kalokairiou, xexe :) > -- > Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] > Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] > Tel:(+30 81) 391882/Fax:(+30 892) 23206 > Phaistos Networks S.A. - A DOL Digital Company > -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Aug 17 21:09:00 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:09:00 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon Message-ID: <01081721090000.04540@panas.iworx.gr> $movie =array(('O kavalaris ton tafon' => 'Tomp Raider')); Mes stin rastoni tu kalokairiu .... Opou i lista den exei kinisi .... Ke pinguinoi kanun mpanio sta zesta nera tu Liviku ..... Afinontas tus pagetones .... Anarotiete o poiitis .... Emeine kaneis se tuti tin poli, na pame kanena sinemadaki ? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From sbolis at freemail.gr Sat Aug 18 13:24:39 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:24:39 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon In-Reply-To: <01081721090000.04540@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > $movie =array(('O kavalaris ton tafon' => 'Tomp Raider')); Rider:=kabalarhs; raider:=epidromeas-boythxths; (lete na moy emeine koysoyri apo thn Pascal?) Pantws edw poy legame na pame a' probolh sth lara (kai eixe ginei kai sxetikh koybenta poly prin sth hellug) den kinhthike tipota.. AN ginei kati pisteyw tha einai konta stis arxes Septembrioy (gia edw sigoyra.. to idio kai gia ekei ;-) ) kala na pernate... Spiros D. Bolis From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Aug 18 18:46:11 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 18:46:11 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon References: <01081721090000.04540@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: <005701c127fc$e88114e0$37083493@hosaka> Tsagatakhs wrote: > $movie =array(('O kavalaris ton tafon' => 'Tomb Raider')); Actually, "O tymbwryxos". O kballarhs twn tafwne 8a hto "Tomb Rider". > Emeine kaneis se tuti tin poli, na pame kanena sinemadaki ? Dystyxws to eida to x8es. Alla ama er8ei to "Lord of the Rings"... Na xairetisw telos thn lista, ama th eukairih ths epistrofhs mou en Hrakleio. From konstantinos at iworx.gr Mon Aug 20 10:58:02 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:58:02 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon References: <01081721090000.04540@panas.iworx.gr> <005701c127fc$e88114e0$37083493@hosaka> Message-ID: <003901c1294d$d7f2f8d0$0d00a8c0@universe> Mia kai to lete vevaia, emeis tha pame simera na to doume.... Opote an kapoios thelei na erthei parea, fisika kai einai efprosdfsfassfsfktos.... ftou!.... kalodexoumenos telos panton.. :PP Tha pame ston Krono stin provoli ton 22.00...... Sas perimeno.... Ta leme pedes, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides P.S.: Tha pigaina tin Paraskevi, alla imouna Chalkidiki.... :)) ginaika vlepeis... From gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr Mon Aug 20 12:44:49 2001 From: gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Maravelias Georgios) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:44:49 +0300 (EEST) Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon In-Reply-To: <003901c1294d$d7f2f8d0$0d00a8c0@universe> Message-ID: re file .... den mas endiaferi pou isouna to savatokiriako .... ke emis agapisame ..... ala den xasame gia kamia tin premiera tou " kavl**ri ton tafon" ;P From konstantinos at iworx.gr Mon Aug 20 13:57:51 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:57:51 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon References: Message-ID: <000501c12966$f7f77fc0$0d00a8c0@universe> Giorgaki, ola kala, alla re file, ksanaeksetase ligo to Linux sou, giati mou fainetai oti kati den exeis kanei sosta... Panta mou stelneis 2 fores ta minimata sou!!! Oso gia to gnosto thema... ase.... ksereis... :PPPP Ta leme pedia.................... Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides "file, tin agapao akoma.........." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maravelias Georgios" To: "Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: O kavalaris ton tafon > > re file .... den mas endiaferi pou isouna to savatokiriako .... > ke emis agapisame ..... ala den xasame gia kamia tin > premiera tou " kavl**ri ton tafon" > > ;P > > > From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Aug 20 14:18:58 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:18:58 +0300 Subject: O kavalaris ton tafon In-Reply-To: <000501c12966$f7f77fc0$0d00a8c0@universe> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides wrote: > Giorgaki, > > ola kala, alla re file, ksanaeksetase ligo to Linux sou, giati mou fainetai > oti kati den exeis > kanei sosta... Panta mou stelneis 2 fores ta minimata sou!!! ma de ftaiei to linuxaki toy.. aplws soy ekane reply-to: proswpika (opote to phres mia fora) kai to ekane Cc: kai sth lista opote to phres kai th deyterh.. kai gia toy logoy to alithes., Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:44:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Maravelias Georgios To: Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides Cc: herlug at lists.hellug.gr Subject: Re: O kavalaris ton tafon > Oso gia to gnosto thema... ase.... ksereis... :PPPP Gynaikeio kreas moy myrizei ( ;-) ) Yparxei periptwsh na erthete ekdromh sthn Athina (!!!!) na to doyme edw? (kale re... mh barate oloi mazi) Spiros D. Bolis From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Mon Aug 20 14:45:57 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:45:57 +0300 Subject: Kalo xeimwna Message-ID: <01082014455701.00242@black> se olous paidia, gyrisate blepw apo tis diakopes kai gemhse zwh h lista! Pote 8a kanoume to epomeno installfest ? :))))) Sas blepw ore3atous. Ante kalo linuxarisma kai ayto to xeimwna... Lefteris From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 20 19:06:53 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:06:53 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro Message-ID: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> AAAAAAAAAXXX, kanate tis diakopoules sas kai girisate oreksatoi e? ante me to kalo na sas mpei o xeimonas (geia sas, eimai o ``den eida kalokairi'') -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From konstantinos at iworx.gr Mon Aug 20 18:16:53 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:16:53 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <002001c1298b$267ec640$0d00a8c0@universe> Spiro, edo pou ta leme, san na exeis dikio gia ta mail... :)))) Oso gia to ginaikeio kreas.... e... as poume oti exeis kali miti... :)))) Gia to ergo pantos, an mou to eleges exthes (pou imouna Athina) mporei kai na pernousa volta na to do.. (Giriza apo Thesaloniki-Chalkidiki kai eixa 4 ores keno).... Tha ta poume... Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides P.S.: Ah!! Ksexasa na sas to po, gia na to exete ipopsi sas... Ego eimai tou antagonismou.. :PP From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 20 21:25:26 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:25:26 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro In-Reply-To: <002001c1298b$267ec640$0d00a8c0@universe> References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <002001c1298b$267ec640$0d00a8c0@universe> Message-ID: <20010820212526.01fa06cc.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:16:53 +0300 "Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides" wrote: > Spiro, > > edo pou ta leme, san na exeis dikio gia ta mail... :)))) > Oso gia to ginaikeio kreas.... e... as poume oti exeis kali miti... :)))) > Gia to ergo pantos, an mou to eleges exthes (pou imouna Athina) mporei > kai na pernousa volta na to do.. (Giriza apo Thesaloniki-Chalkidiki kai > eixa > 4 ores keno).... > Tha ta poume... > > Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides > > P.S.: Ah!! Ksexasa na sas to po, gia na to exete ipopsi sas... Ego eimai tou > antagonismou.. :PP fainetai oti eisai tou antagonismou (aka floros) giati: 1. eipes ti mlkia me to mail :) 2. Apantas sto spiro se diko mou mail :) Ti na kanoume... Emeis os linuxades eimaste anoixtokardoi, kai dexomaste kai florakia m$ades stin parea mas. Alla na ksereis oti sou kanoume megali xari, kai apaitoume to sevasmo sou opos episis kai na paradexteis oti eisai poli katoteros -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr Mon Aug 20 19:11:24 2001 From: gmaravel at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Maravelias Georgios) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:11:24 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Kalo xeimwna In-Reply-To: <01082014455701.00242@black> Message-ID: XEIMONA ???? pion xeimona re pedia ..... edo kanonizo akoma gia kataskinosis ekdromoules se mageftikes paralies ,pnigmous ( ;) gia osous xeroun xixixi) , tsarkes sta malia gia pipinokamakoma , sinestiasis se kritika glentia ...... ke esis milate gia kalo ximona ???? FTU SAS !!!!!!!! DEN XENERO ... DEN XENERONOUME POTE!!!!!!! On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > se olous paidia, > > gyrisate blepw apo tis diakopes kai gemhse zwh h lista! > > Pote 8a kanoume to epomeno installfest ? :))))) Sas blepw ore3atous. > > Ante kalo linuxarisma kai ayto to xeimwna... > > Lefteris > From ntg21 at linux.gr Mon Aug 20 20:44:09 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:44:09 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <004c01c1299f$b7ab99e0$37083493@hp> > AAAAAAAAAXXX, kanate tis diakopoules sas kai girisate oreksatoi e? Pano kato NAI.Gurisame kai sas perimenoume.Ante gia kana fest. ;-) > ante me to kalo na sas mpei o xeimonas Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) > (geia sas, eimai o ``den eida kalokairi'') Olo grinia mou eisai.Les kai pernas asxima. Nikos From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 20 21:29:12 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:29:12 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <004c01c1299f$b7ab99e0$37083493@hp> Message-ID: <000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos> > > ante me to kalo na sas mpei o xeimonas > > Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) ax nai re paidia, den exo agiksei 8alasa fetos ... mporo opote 8elete :) vagelis.- From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Aug 21 16:25:48 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:25:48 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <004c01c1299f$b7ab99e0$37083493@hp> <000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp> > > Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) > > ax nai re paidia, den exo agiksei 8alasa fetos ... > > mporo opote 8elete :) Loipon ti lete oi upoloipoi? Ti lete gia to s/k? Nikos From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Aug 21 17:11:51 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:11:51 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro In-Reply-To: <001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp> References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos> <001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082117115102.03117@panas.iworx.gr> On Tue 21 Aug 2001 16:25, NTG21 wrote: > > > Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) > > > > ax nai re paidia, den exo agiksei 8alasa fetos ... > > > > mporo opote 8elete :) > > Loipon ti lete oi upoloipoi? > Ti lete gia to s/k? > > Nikos O.k. Gia pou ? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no glossary and i want to scream! ;-) From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Aug 21 18:56:21 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:56:21 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos> <001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp> <01082117115102.03117@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: <000b01c12a59$d2ad1920$36083493@hp> > > > > Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) > > > > > > ax nai re paidia, den exo agiksei 8alasa fetos ... > > > > > > mporo opote 8elete :) > > > > Loipon ti lete oi upoloipoi? > > Ti lete gia to s/k? > > > > Nikos > > O.k. Gia pou ? Ti tha legate gia kapou notia?Ligo makria vevaia alla leei. Nikos From papas at wise.gr Wed Aug 22 00:19:37 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:19:37 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro In-Reply-To: <000b01c12a59$d2ad1920$36083493@hp> References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr> <000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos> <001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp> <01082117115102.03117@panas.iworx.gr> <000b01c12a59$d2ad1920$36083493@hp> Message-ID: <20010822001937.69e84878.papas@wise.gr> On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:56:21 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > > > > > Mexri na mas mpei den pame gia kana mpanaki? ;-) > > > > > > > > ax nai re paidia, den exo agiksei 8alasa fetos ... > > > > > > > > mporo opote 8elete :) > > > > > > Loipon ti lete oi upoloipoi? > > > Ti lete gia to s/k? > > > > > > Nikos > > > > O.k. Gia pou ? > > Ti tha legate gia kapou notia?Ligo makria vevaia alla leei. > > Nikos > Re, o logos pou den exo paei feto mpanio, einai epeidi de mporo na metakino tin ksenia, kai tora 8a tis po: ``ante filakia moro, tin kano gia matala, 8a ta ksanapoume'' ??? R U CRAZY :) ego elega gia tipota amoudara, tomprouk, to poli agia pelagia, kapou konta telos panton... -- Vagelakis From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Aug 21 22:21:42 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:21:42 +0300 Subject: kalo ftino-poro References: <20010820190653.1733f817.papas@wise.gr><000901c129a6$028587e0$0200a8c0@vagos><001601c12a44$d07d4d60$31083493@hp><01082117115102.03117@panas.iworx.gr><000b01c12a59$d2ad1920$36083493@hp> <20010822001937.69e84878.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <000f01c12a76$82db4440$2f083493@hp> > > > > Ti lete gia to s/k? > > > > > > O.k. Gia pou ? > > > > Ti tha legate gia kapou notia?Ligo makria vevaia alla leei. > Re, o logos pou den exo paei feto mpanio, einai epeidi de mporo na metakino tin ksenia, kai tora 8a tis po: > ``ante filakia moro, tin kano gia matala, 8a ta ksanapoume'' ??? R U CRAZY :) Safos kai eimai alla den einai auto to thema. > ego elega gia tipota amoudara, tomprouk, to poli agia pelagia, kapou konta telos panton... Ok,cool.Ego eimai mesa gia opou thelete. Nikos From konstantinos at iworx.gr Wed Aug 22 13:43:59 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:43:59 +0300 Subject: Gia deite afto..... Message-ID: <000e01c12af7$60b35a20$0d00a8c0@universe> Pedia, to site pou akolouthei DEN exei kamia sxesi me to diko mas *(iworx.gr)*.... Gia elegkste to: http://www.iworx.net Oso gia to kakoithestato email tou Vaggeli.... ela more.... mia xara ta eipe to paidi.. :))) xexexexexexexe A! 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From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Aug 23 13:50:59 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:50:59 +0300 Subject: Thelw spiti sto Hrakleio.. Message-ID: Synteknoi, An exei kaneis ypopsh toy pws briskeis spiti sto Hrakleio gia foithth toy Mathimatikoy (poy molis perase) tha toy hmoyn ypoxreos.. Perimenw nea sas ASAP fxaristw, Spiros D. Bolis From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Thu Aug 23 12:54:09 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:54:09 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Thelw spiti sto Hrakleio.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010823125229.S58682-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Erxese edw pairneis mia efhmerhda kai arxizeis kai psaxneis:) Alla grhgora pes tou giati yparxei eleipsh kai 8a brei dyskola:( 8a sou elega na koita3w egw alla exw e3etastikh twrakai den prolabenw, pantws ama akousw gia kanena 8a steilw mail. Lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Spiros Bolis wrote: > Synteknoi, > > An exei kaneis ypopsh toy pws briskeis spiti sto Hrakleio gia foithth toy Mathimatikoy (poy molis perase) tha toy hmoyn ypoxreos.. > > Perimenw nea sas ASAP > > fxaristw, > > Spiros D. Bolis > > From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Aug 23 15:40:15 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:40:15 +0300 Subject: Thelw spiti sto Hrakleio.. In-Reply-To: <20010823125229.S58682-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > Erxese edw pairneis mia efhmerhda kai arxizeis kai psaxneis:) > Alla grhgora pes tou giati yparxei eleipsh kai 8a brei dyskola:( Gi ayth th doyleia exw to remali ton aderfo moy ;-) Epeidh ki aytos to prwi einai apasxolhmenos kai den borei na gyrnaei eipa mhpws kai 3erete kanena diko sas poy feygei kai adeiazei kana spiti,, Oso gia efhmerida... mexri kai ta grafeia ths Patridas 3erw ! ;-) > 8a sou elega na koita3w egw alla exw e3etastikh twrakai den prolabenw, > pantws ama akousw gia kanena 8a steilw mail. o,ti proereiste ;-) Eyxaristw.... Kala na pernate... Spiros D. Bolis From papas at wise.gr Thu Aug 23 20:29:58 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:29:58 +0300 Subject: Thelw spiti sto Hrakleio.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010823202958.0d2725f9.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:50:59 +0300 Spiros Bolis wrote: > Synteknoi, > > An exei kaneis ypopsh toy pws briskeis spiti sto Hrakleio gia foithth toy Mathimatikoy (poy molis perase) tha toy hmoyn ypoxreos.. > > Perimenw nea sas ASAP > > fxaristw, > > Spiros D. Bolis > An itan fititria, olo kai kapoio kalopaido 8a vriskotan na ti filoksenisei gia kana - dio meres (kai analoga me ta prosonta (ta dika tis) kai parapano) alla... AAAAAA, den exoume kai mia ginaika stin parea? Afti ti leei? prosferetai? Sovara tora, 8a to xo ipopsin mou ama vro tipota. Alla den nomizo... -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From tripol at mhl.tuc.gr Fri Aug 24 18:46:21 2001 From: tripol at mhl.tuc.gr (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:46:21 +0300 Subject: mpa herlug? Message-ID: <000501c12cb3$ed389100$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> herlug? endiaferon pali prwteyse to hraklio enanti twn xaniwn... tespa ... ti syn8esh exete ? eiste kata kyrio logo foithtes apo csd/teiher? Vaggelis ps. den to bgazoume crelug? :-) From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Aug 24 20:57:13 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:57:13 +0300 Subject: mpa herlug? In-Reply-To: <000501c12cb3$ed389100$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> References: <000501c12cb3$ed389100$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> Message-ID: <01082420545202.00184@black> On Friday 24 August 2001 18:46, you wrote: > herlug? > endiaferon pali prwteyse to hraklio enanti twn xaniwn... > tespa ... ti syn8esh exete ? eiste kata kyrio logo foithtes > apo csd/teiher? Hr8an ta Xania!!!! Xairetw ton xanioth filo vtrip :) (Opws katalabeneis h fhmh sou sto panepi paramenei:)))) Apoteloumaste apo foithtes, ergazomenous, epeixhrhmaties kai 30 me 40 gynaikes!!! > > Vaggelis > > ps. den to bgazoume crelug? :-) 8a sygkalesoume syneleysh kai 8a doume:) Lefteris From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 21:00:34 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:00:34 +0300 Subject: mpa herlug? In-Reply-To: <01082420545202.00184@black> References: <000501c12cb3$ed389100$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> <01082420545202.00184@black> Message-ID: <200108241806.f7OI61405423@hera.wise.gr> On Friday 24 August 2001 20:57, you wrote: > On Friday 24 August 2001 18:46, you wrote: > > herlug? > > endiaferon pali prwteyse to hraklio enanti twn xaniwn... > > tespa ... ti syn8esh exete ? eiste kata kyrio logo foithtes > > apo csd/teiher? > > Hr8an ta Xania!!!! > Xairetw ton xanioth filo vtrip :) > (Opws katalabeneis h fhmh sou sto panepi paramenei:)))) > > Apoteloumaste apo foithtes, ergazomenous, epeixhrhmaties kai 30 me 40 > gynaikes!!! > > > Vaggelis > > > > ps. den to bgazoume crelug? :-) > > 8a sygkalesoume syneleysh kai 8a doume:) > > > Lefteris Ki omws yparxei ki allos apo Xania kai apo to tuc. P.S. : Pantws Lefteri oi taktikes sou gia pros8esi newn melwn einai aparadektes. 5 antres eimaste oloi ki oloi kai 60 gynaikes, ek twn opoiwn oi 59 einai montella... Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Fri Aug 24 21:11:18 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:11:18 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista Message-ID: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> Geia xara, ema8a oti o vtrip einai sth lista sas, opote 8elw ki EGW na eimai sth lista. Pws 8a ginei? Exete kanena majordomo h' me grafete manualy? From ntg21 at linux.gr Fri Aug 24 23:47:23 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:47:23 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista References: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <002b01c12cdd$fa9d6c60$44083493@hp> > Geia xara, > > ema8a oti o vtrip einai sth lista sas, opote 8elw ki EGW na eimai sth > lista. Pws 8a ginei? Exete kanena majordomo h' me grafete manualy? Vre vre.Ena mail stathike aformi na plakosoun stin lista kai oi bsdades. ;-P Den mas eftane o venturas tha exoume kai sena? An thes na grafteis pigaine sto http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/herlug kai grapsou. An tora o listman (diladi ego) thelei kanei approve tin aitisi tote mpaineis stin lista. Paidia ti lete, thelo? ;-) Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sat Aug 25 01:19:11 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 01:19:11 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista References: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> <002b01c12cdd$fa9d6c60$44083493@hp> Message-ID: <3B86D2DF.B61C5F58@csd.uoc.gr> NTG21 wrote: > > > Geia xara, > > > > ema8a oti o vtrip einai sth lista sas, opote 8elw ki EGW na eimai sth > > lista. Pws 8a ginei? Exete kanena majordomo h' me grafete manualy? > > Vre vre.Ena mail stathike aformi na plakosoun stin lista kai oi bsdades. ;-P > Den mas eftane o venturas tha exoume kai sena? O Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, kai mporw na to apodei3w. > > An thes na grafteis pigaine sto > http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/herlug kai grapsou. > An tora o listman (diladi ego) thelei kanei approve tin aitisi tote mpaineis > stin lista. > > Paidia ti lete, thelo? ;-) > > Nikos From ntg21 at linux.gr Sat Aug 25 01:26:31 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 01:26:31 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista References: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> <002b01c12cdd$fa9d6c60$44083493@hp> <3B86D2DF.B61C5F58@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <003f01c12ceb$d399e720$20083493@hp> > O Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, kai mporw na to apodei3w. Apodeixe to loipon.Perimenoume. Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sat Aug 25 14:53:26 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:53:26 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista In-Reply-To: <003f01c12ceb$d399e720$20083493@hp> References: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> <3B86D2DF.B61C5F58@csd.uoc.gr> <003f01c12ceb$d399e720$20083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082514530001.00292@terminus> On Saturday 25 August 2001 01:26, NTG21 wrote: > > O Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, kai mporw na to apodei3w. > > Apodeixe to loipon.Perimenoume. Kat' arxhn, o Bentouras exei duo PCia. To ena to exei sth douleia tou kai to allo sto spiti tou. Auto to lew san bash ths epixeirhmatologias mou, h opoia, omologw, einai ligo sa8rh. Ki auto dioti ta epixeirhmata mou basizontai se gnwseis pou exw egw, alla denmporw na 3erw an exete ki eseis. Opws eipame, loipon, o Bentouras exei duo PCia pou xrhsimopoiei. An htan BSDas, den 8a xrhsimopoiouse kapoio BSD leitourgiko se kapoio, toulaxiston, apo ta duo auta PCia? E, loipon, sto spiti tou exei Windows (gia na blepei kanena videaki me periergo format, upo8etw - to noatun den mporei na kanei 8aumata) kai ena partition Linux (Mandrake - apaisio!), pou einai kai to basiko tou leitourgiko. Kanena BSD. Sth douleia exei ena PC me 4 working partitions. Ta duo exoun Linux (mporeite na fantasteite giati kapoio xreiazetai duo partitions me Linux), mia exei windows kai allh mia FreeBSD 4.3 Exei tuxeina douleyw,gia kapoio diasthma, se auto to PC kai eida oti enw oi pertitions me to Linux htan polu kala setarismenes, ki ola douleuane mia xara, h partition me to FreeBSD htan se protogonh katastash. Fainotan oti den eixe asxolh8ei mazi ths. 8a mporousa, ws extra stoixeia oti o Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, na sas para8esw mails apo mia allh lista sthn opoia einai grammenos, alla oi kanones ths listas auths apagoreuoun sta melh ths na dioxeteuoun mails pou stelnontai se auth th lista prois ta e3w. Epishs, mas apagoreuoun na anaferoume to onoma auths ths listas, dioti an to kanoume, 8a mas kaoun oi sklhroi (diskoi, kale). > Nikos Gkalhs Argurhs Kampourhs From ntg21 at linux.gr Sat Aug 25 16:31:58 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:31:58 +0300 Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista References: <3B8698C6.BD4BBDD5@csd.uoc.gr> <3B86D2DF.B61C5F58@csd.uoc.gr> <003f01c12ceb$d399e720$20083493@hp> <01082514530001.00292@terminus> Message-ID: <000b01c12d6a$51199960$32083493@hp> > > Apodeixe to loipon.Perimenoume. > > Kat' arxhn, o Bentouras exei duo PCia. To ena to exei sth douleia tou kai to > allo sto spiti tou. Auto to lew san bash ths epixeirhmatologias mou, h opoia, > omologw, einai ligo sa8rh. Ki auto dioti ta epixeirhmata mou basizontai se > gnwseis pou exw egw, alla denmporw na 3erw an exete ki eseis. Sathri i epeixirimatologia sou?Ma pos ginetai auto?Gia vale ligo fantasia kai ftiaxtin kalutera. > Opws eipame, loipon, o Bentouras exei duo PCia pou xrhsimopoiei. An htan > BSDas, den 8a xrhsimopoiouse kapoio BSD leitourgiko se kapoio, toulaxiston, > apo ta duo auta PCia? Mporei na einai BSDas wannabe. > E, loipon, sto spiti tou exei Windows (gia na blepei kanena videaki me > periergo format, upo8etw - to noatun den mporei na kanei 8aumata) kai ena > partition Linux (Mandrake - apaisio!), pou einai kai to basiko tou > leitourgiko. Kanena BSD. > > Sth douleia exei ena PC me 4 working partitions. Ta duo exoun Linux (mporeite > na fantasteite giati kapoio xreiazetai duo partitions me Linux), mia exei Mporoume. > windows kai allh mia FreeBSD 4.3 Exei tuxeina douleyw,gia kapoio diasthma, se > auto to PC kai eida oti enw oi pertitions me to Linux htan polu kala > setarismenes, ki ola douleuane mia xara, h partition me to FreeBSD htan se > protogonh katastash. Fainotan oti den eixe asxolh8ei mazi ths. Ara mporei na thelei na asxolithei sto mellon.Ara wannabe. > 8a mporousa, ws extra stoixeia oti o Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, na sas > para8esw mails apo mia allh lista sthn opoia einai grammenos, alla oi kanones > ths listas auths apagoreuoun sta melh ths na dioxeteuoun mails pou stelnontai > se auth th lista prois ta e3w. Epishs, mas apagoreuoun na anaferoume to onoma > auths ths listas, dioti an to kanoume, 8a mas kaoun oi sklhroi (diskoi, kale). Mporo na sumpliroso oti dimosiografikes plirofories anaferoun oti i lista auti isos nai kai isos oxi na eixe,exei i tha exei sxesi me tin diki mas lista. ;-) Dustuxos den mporo na apokalupso perisotera ;-( > > Nikos Gkalhs > > Argurhs Kampourhs ''The point is, you see,that there is no point in driving yourself mad trying to stop yourself going mad. You might just as well give in and save your sanity for later.'' Ford Escord From gmaravel at nana.forthnet.gr Sun Aug 26 04:30:44 2001 From: gmaravel at nana.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 04:30:44 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD Message-ID: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> re pedia ... mias ke ime kenourios sto linux ke genika se litourgika<>M$ tha ithela na kano tin eksis erotisi ....... giati iparxi afti i megali kontra metaxi BSD ke Linux ??? mporo na po oti i aporiamou megalose meta to www.iworx.net mias ke kati antistixo me litourgika me M$ den exo di ........ Georgios Maravelias From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Aug 26 21:19:50 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:19:50 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> Message-ID: <01082621195005.00285@terminus> On Sunday 26 August 2001 04:30, Georgios Maravelias wrote: > re pedia ... mias ke ime kenourios sto linux ke genika se litourgika<>M$ > tha ithela na kano tin eksis erotisi ....... > > giati iparxi afti i megali kontra metaxi BSD ke Linux ??? Perissotero gia plaka, upo8etw. Alla uparxoun ki alloi logoi: To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi to pleisto, apo koinothtes programmatistwn. Anoikoun, dhladh, sthn idia kathgoria, se anti8esh, p.x., me to Solaris, to HP-UX h' ta Windows 2000 pou dhmiourgountai apo etairies kai kruboun polla pragmata. Epomenws, exoume enan antagwnismo meta3u twn open source leitourgikwn. Epishs, uparxei kai to 8ema twn adiwn. O perissoteros kwdikas tou Linux einai under GNU licence, enw twn BSD einai under BSd licence. Exoume, loipon, kai kontra gia to pia adeia einai kaluterh. Akoma, oloi 8a 8elame na eixame to kalutero dunato leitourgiko sto mhxanima mas. Poio einai, omws, auto? H apanthsh den einai profanhs. Ka8e leitourgiko exei pleonekthmata kai meiwnekthmata. Ara, h kontra einai fusiologiko na prokuyei analoga me to pia xarakthrhstika 8ewrei kaneis shmantikotera se ena leitourgiko. Yparxoun ki alloi logoi, alla 8a anaferw mono enan akoma: oi an8rwpoi exoun thn tash na omadopoiountai kai na ginontai opadoi kapoiwn idewn, protimhsewn, klp. P.x. auto sumbainei me tis podosfairikes omades, me ta politika kommata kai polla alla. Etsi kai sta leitourgika, orismenoi th briskoun dhlwnontas, p.x., Linuxades kai anoikontas se mia koinothta Linuxadwn (epomenws, yagmenwn computeradwn). Bebaia, to Linux exei diadw8ei toso polu, pou isws na mh 8ewreitai, pleon, kai toso yagmeno. Ki h koutsh Maria exei linux, pleon. Epomenws, kapoio katafeugoun se ligotero dhmofilh leitourgika (p.x. Amiga OS :) gia na to pai3oun pio yagmenoi. > mporo na po oti i aporiamou megalose meta to www.iworx.net > mias ke kati antistixo me litourgika me M$ den exo di ........ Nomiza oti oloi exoume dei ta klasika skitsakia pou sathrizoun th Microsoft, ta windows, tonBill Gates, klp. P.x. to videaki ths parousiashs twn Windows 98, opou phgane na baloun ena scanner kai tous peta3e mple o8onh exei kanei to guro tou kosmou. Yparxoun ki alla tetoia skitsakia,videakia, klp. > > Georgios Maravelias From ntg21 at linux.gr Mon Aug 27 00:22:04 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:22:04 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> Message-ID: <002201c12e75$27996460$19083493@hp> > re pedia ... mias ke ime kenourios sto linux ke genika se litourgika<>M$ > tha ithela na kano tin eksis erotisi ....... > > giati iparxi afti i megali kontra metaxi BSD ke Linux ??? > mporo na po oti i aporiamou megalose meta to www.iworx.net > mias ke kati antistixo me litourgika me M$ den exo di ........ Basika emeis den exoume kati me tous BSDades.Ekeinoi periergos exoun me emas. ;-) Einai opos oi Thessalonikioi me tous Athinaious.Oi Boreioi den goustaroun tous notious alla oi notioi.... sta papa@@@ tous an o allos einai apo to tin sallonika i to linuxoxori.(Vaggeli xrostas xenagisi) That's life. Tora oson afora tin M$ profanos kai den uparxei kati tetoio.Ekei aplos oloi misoun tin M$ kai ta proionta tis kai teleionei i upothesi. Nikos From ntg21 at linux.gr Mon Aug 27 00:56:41 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:56:41 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <01082621195005.00285@terminus> Message-ID: <002a01c12e79$fdc8cb80$19083493@hp> > Perissotero gia plaka, upo8etw. Alla uparxoun ki alloi logoi: Einai gnosto oti toso oi linuxades oso kai oi BSDades ektimoun ena kalo flame kai polles fores to epidiokoun gia plaka. > To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi to > pleisto, apo koinothtes programmatistwn. Anoikoun, dhladh, sthn idia > kathgoria, se anti8esh, p.x., me to Solaris, to HP-UX h' ta Windows 2000 pou > dhmiourgountai apo etairies kai kruboun polla pragmata. Epomenws, exoume enan > antagwnismo meta3u twn open source leitourgikwn. Pragma kalo. > Epishs, uparxei kai to 8ema twn adiwn. O perissoteros kwdikas tou Linux einai > under GNU licence, enw twn BSD einai under BSd licence. Exoume, loipon, kai > kontra gia to pia adeia einai kaluterh. > > Akoma, oloi 8a 8elame na eixame to kalutero dunato leitourgiko sto mhxanima > mas. Poio einai, omws, auto? H apanthsh den einai profanhs. Ka8e leitourgiko > exei pleonekthmata kai meiwnekthmata. Ara, h kontra einai fusiologiko na > prokuyei analoga me to pia xarakthrhstika 8ewrei kaneis shmantikotera se ena > leitourgiko. Ma fusika to kalutero leitourgiko einai to Linux. ;-) > Yparxoun ki alloi logoi, alla 8a anaferw mono enan akoma: oi an8rwpoi exoun > thn tash na omadopoiountai kai na ginontai opadoi kapoiwn idewn, protimhsewn, > klp. P.x. auto sumbainei me tis podosfairikes omades, me ta politika kommata > kai polla alla. Etsi kai sta leitourgika, orismenoi th briskoun dhlwnontas, > p.x., Linuxades kai anoikontas se mia koinothta Linuxadwn (epomenws, yagmenwn > computeradwn). Bebaia, to Linux exei diadw8ei toso polu, pou isws na mh > 8ewreitai, pleon, kai toso yagmeno. Ki h koutsh Maria exei linux, pleon. > Epomenws, kapoio katafeugoun se ligotero dhmofilh leitourgika (p.x. Amiga OS > :) gia na to pai3oun pio yagmenoi. Dustuxos stis meres mas einai tis modas na eisai linuxas. Etsi exoun arxisei kai eisreoun stin koinotita kai anthropoi oi opoioi theloun na to paixoun exupnoi stous filous tous kai vazoun Linux. Osoi parakoloutheite kai tis alles listes tou Hellug tha exete dei polles fores anthropous pou lene "Afou thelete na proothiste to Linux elate na gemisete to kefali mou me gnoseis giati ego variemai".Den to lene akrivos etsi vevaia alla auto einai to noima.Kante kati oloi eseis gia na epofelitho ego. Otan kati einai trendy dustuxos travaei kai kosmo pou den tha itheles.Kosmo pou den einai akoma orimos gia tin koinotita.Polloi apo autous isos "valoun mualo".Oloi autoi exallou opos kai oi perissoteroi apo emas upurxan window losers kai kouvalan akoma lathos nootropoia. To BSD akoma den einai tis modas(tora arxizei kai ginetai gia tin akriveia) opote akoma oi BSDades san koinotita den antimetopizoun tetoia provlimata.Auto aloste einai ena thema gia to opoio mas tin lene.(An kai oxi gia polu dustuxos gi' autous.) > > mporo na po oti i aporiamou megalose meta to www.iworx.net > > mias ke kati antistixo me litourgika me M$ den exo di ........ > > Nomiza oti oloi exoume dei ta klasika skitsakia pou sathrizoun th Microsoft, > ta windows, tonBill Gates, klp. P.x. to videaki ths parousiashs twn Windows > 98, opou phgane na baloun ena scanner kai tous peta3e mple o8onh exei kanei > to guro tou kosmou. Yparxoun ki alla tetoia skitsakia,videakia, klp. Gamata ola. ;-) Pera apo tin plaka vevaia to Linux opos kai to BSD exoun paromoia "ideologia" kai einai kai ta duo open-source leitourgika.To kathena exei ta pleonektimata kai ta meionektimata tou opos eipe kai o Stauros kai apo kei kai pera o kathenas dialegei auto pou tou tairiazei perissotero me vasi to ti theorei pio simantiko. Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 01:38:57 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:38:57 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <002201c12e75$27996460$19083493@hp> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <002201c12e75$27996460$19083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082701385701.00629@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 00:22, NTG21 wrote: > > re pedia ... mias ke ime kenourios sto linux ke genika se > > litourgika<>M$ > > > tha ithela na kano tin eksis erotisi ....... > > > > giati iparxi afti i megali kontra metaxi BSD ke Linux ??? > > mporo na po oti i aporiamou megalose meta to www.iworx.net > > mias ke kati antistixo me litourgika me M$ den exo di ........ > > Basika emeis den exoume kati me tous BSDades.Ekeinoi periergos exoun me > emas. ;-) Mpa? Eseis (oi Linuxades) eisaste autoi pou lete "to Linux einai to kalutero leitourgiko" kai "to pio grhgoro" kai "to pio asfales" klp. Toulaxiston, oi Linuxades pou exw gnwrisei, dioti uparxoun kai sobara atoma pou asxolountai me to Linux, pera apo emas :), einai olo perifania! Hremia, paidia. To LInux einai ena polu a3iologo leitourgiko, me terastia prosfora sthn e3eli3h twn upologistwn, alla den einai, anagkasthka, to kalutero. Exei ta pleonekthmata kai ta meionekthmata tou, kai sigoura einai mia lush pou prepei, kaneis, na labei upoyhn tou. Alla, oxi anagkasthka to kalutero. Twra, an douleyete arketa, eseis oi Linuxades, makari na to kanete to kalutero. oloi 8a h8elan na doun na dhmiourgeitai to teleio leitourgiko. An to Linux kataferei na ginei, cool! > Einai opos oi Thessalonikioi me tous Athinaious.Oi Boreioi den goustaroun > tous notious alla oi notioi.... sta papa@@@ tous an o allos einai apo to > tin sallonika i to linuxoxori.(Vaggeli xrostas xenagisi) > That's life. > Tora oson afora tin M$ profanos kai den uparxei kati tetoio.Ekei aplos oloi > misoun tin M$ kai ta proionta tis kai teleionei i upothesi. > > Nikos From ntg21 at linux.gr Mon Aug 27 01:53:14 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:53:14 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <002201c12e75$27996460$19083493@hp> <01082701385701.00629@terminus> Message-ID: <000b01c12e81$e46a11a0$33083493@hp> > Mpa? Eseis (oi Linuxades) eisaste autoi pou lete "to Linux einai to kalutero > leitourgiko" kai "to pio grhgoro" kai "to pio asfales" klp. Toulaxiston, oi > Linuxades pou exw gnwrisei, dioti uparxoun kai sobara atoma pou asxolountai > me to Linux, pera apo emas :), einai olo perifania! Diladi uponoeis oti emeis den eimaste sovaroi?A mas prosvaleis. Exallou to Linux einai kalutero. ;-) > Twra, an douleyete arketa, eseis oi Linuxades, makari na to kanete to > kalutero. oloi 8a h8elan na doun na dhmiourgeitai to teleio leitourgiko. An > to Linux kataferei na ginei, cool! Den nomizo na mporesei na uparxei pote to teleio leitourgiko.Opos den uparxei to apoluta asfales sustuma. Pantos emeis tha prospathisoume. Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 02:10:26 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:10:26 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <002a01c12e79$fdc8cb80$19083493@hp> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <01082621195005.00285@terminus> <002a01c12e79$fdc8cb80$19083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082702102603.00629@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 00:56, NTG21 wrote: > > > To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi > > to pleisto, apo koinothtes programmatistwn. Anoikoun, dhladh, sthn idia > > kathgoria, se anti8esh, p.x., me to Solaris, to HP-UX h' ta Windows 2000 > > pou dhmiourgountai apo etairies kai kruboun polla pragmata. Epomenws, > >exoume enan antagwnismo meta3u twn open source leitourgikwn. > > Pragma kalo. E3artatai. Auth th stigmh, nai, einai kalo opws ginetai. Kai ennow oti ta open source leitourgika auth th stigmh den prospa8oun na fane to ena to allo me emporika tricks, opws kanoun oi etairies (bl. diamaxh Microsoft vs SUN gia tous browsers). Anti8eta, to ka8ena anaptusei thn ideologia tou, kai suxna daneizetai idees apo alla leitourgika, susthmata, klp., me skopo na beltiw8ei. Etsi, uparxoun polles luseis ki oxi mono mia. Apo ton "antagwnismo" twn open source leitourgikwn meta3u tous epofelountai ola t aopenm source leitourgika. Gia pardeigma, polles apo tis gnwstes efarmoges Linux anaptux8hkan arxika apo to Berkley (h' opws grafetai), ara BSD, kai to Linux, fusika, tis xrhsimopoiei (p.x. to vi). Epishs, erketes dhmofileis efarmoges anaptux8hkan gia Linux, alla trexoun kai se alla open source leitourgika (sxedon oles oi modernes efarmoges). To kalo, loipon, einai oti to Linux den 8elei na e3afanhsei ta BSDs, to BeOS, to AtheOS klp., oute, fusika, kanena apo auta skopeuei na "ri3ei" to allo. Akoma ki peribohth Linux Comunity einai perissotero open source comunity, kai oi idees ths aforoun pio polu ton eleu8ero kwdika, para thn epikrathsh enos sugkekrimenou leitourgikou. > > Ma fusika to kalutero leitourgiko einai to Linux. ;-) > Apedei3e to :) > Dustuxos stis meres mas einai tis modas na eisai linuxas. > Etsi exoun arxisei kai eisreoun stin koinotita kai anthropoi oi opoioi > theloun na to paixoun exupnoi stous filous tous kai vazoun Linux. > Osoi parakoloutheite kai tis alles listes tou Hellug tha exete dei polles > fores anthropous pou lene "Afou thelete na proothiste to Linux elate na > gemisete to kefali mou me gnoseis giati ego variemai".Den to lene akrivos > etsi vevaia alla auto einai to noima.Kante kati oloi eseis gia na > epofelitho ego. Koita, o tupos pou metaphdaei apo Windows se Linux kanei ena terasteio bhma. Pernaei apo ena emporiko desktop leitourgiko (?) se ena UNIX, opote pa8ainei ena terastio polutismiko shock. 3afnika, xreiazetai na diabasei kapoia pragmata, na grayei kapoia pragmata (kapoia scriptaki, p.x.) kai na ascolh8ei, kapws, me th domh tou leitourgikou, ekei pou prin apla patouse ena double click, ki and en douleue, ekane epanegkatastash. Twra, an kati den douleuei, prepei na brei ti ftaiei, kai an to ftia3ei. H Linux koinothta isxurizetai oti analambanei na parexei uposthri3h stous xrhstes. Fusika, einai adunato na parexei plhrh uposthri3h, efoson osoi thn parexounto kanoun oikio8elws. To zhthma tou support einai polu shmantiko kai kalws h hellug exei kanei kapoia shmantika bhmata proodou ston tomea auto. > Otan kati einai trendy dustuxos travaei kai kosmo pou den tha itheles.Kosmo > pou den einai akoma orimos gia tin koinotita.Polloi apo autous isos "valoun > mualo".Oloi autoi exallou opos kai oi perissoteroi apo emas upurxan window > losers kai kouvalan akoma lathos nootropoia. Den einai anagkasthka la8os h nootropia twn windows. H megalh tous epituxia kati prepei na mas pei kai auto einai oti o xrhsths 8elei ton upologisth na kanei MONO auto pou tou xreiazetai kai na to kanei eukola. An to Linux filodo3ei na einai Desktop leitourgiko (pou filodo3ei), prepei na einai euxrhsto. Kai, par' oti exoun ginei shmantika bhmata pros auth thn kateu8unsh, to Linux den einai, akoma, euxrhsto leitourgiko. Isws, omws, na mhn 8elei na ginei kai toooos euxrhsto, dioti h euxrhstia sunepagetai, kata kapoio tropo, kai duskamyia. Ena euligisto susthma einai panta ligo pio duskolo, giati sou dinei,men , th dunatothta na kaneis perissotera pragmata, apaitei, omws, apo esena na ta kaneis, kai den ta kanei mono tou. > To BSD akoma den einai tis modas(tora arxizei kai ginetai gia tin akriveia) > opote akoma oi BSDades san koinotita den antimetopizoun tetoia > provlimata.Auto aloste einai ena thema gia to opoio mas tin lene.(An kai > oxi gia polu dustuxos gi' autous.) Denblepw to BSD na ginetai, pote, toso dhmofiles. E3artata, allwste, gia pio BSD milame. P.x., to FreeBSD, pou xrhsimopoiw egw, exei kapoia xarakthrhsthka pou to kanoun aprosito ston polu adah xrhsth: - Den exei polles distributions, alla mono mia, epomenws, to susthma basizetai sto oti o xrhsths 8a to kanei customise manualy opws epi8umei (ara prepei na 3erei na to kanei). - Den exei kapoio polu user friedly periballon, opws auto, p.x., tou Mandrake. - H suntriptikh pleioyhfia twn efarmogwn gia xrhstes (office, browsers, mailers, media players klp.) einai grammenes gia Linux, kai tis perissoteres to FreeBSD tis uposthrizei mesw Linux Compatibility. An einai na trexeis kati mesw Linux Compatibility, giati na mhn to trexeis apeu8eias apo Linux? > > Pera apo tin plaka vevaia to Linux opos kai to BSD exoun paromoia > "ideologia" Xm... Etsi ki esti. Basika, ta BSDs einai UNICes, enw to Linux einai UNIX-like. Yparxei diafora. > kai einai kai ta duo Poia duo? To Linuxmporei na einai ena (me pollous kernels), ala ta BSDs einai perissotera. > open-source leitourgika.To kathena exei ta > pleonektimata kai ta meionektimata tou opos eipe kai o Stauros kai apo kei > kai pera o kathenas dialegei auto pou tou tairiazei perissotero me vasi to > ti theorei pio simantiko. Gegonos! > Nikos From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 27 13:43:35 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:43:35 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082621195005.00285@terminus> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <01082621195005.00285@terminus> Message-ID: <20010827134335.2bd05d0a.papas@wise.gr> Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.) wrote: [2] > Nomiza oti oloi exoume dei ta klasika skitsakia pou sathrizoun th Microsoft, > ta windows, tonBill Gates, klp. P.x. to videaki ths parousiashs twn Windows > 98, opou phgane na baloun ena scanner kai tous peta3e mple o8onh exei kanei > to guro tou kosmou. Yparxoun ki alla tetoia skitsakia,videakia, klp. > To kalitero [1], anamfisvitita, einai mia diafimisi tis BMW, pou deixnei ena cabrio montelo tis, kai apo kato me megala-megala gramata grafei: OUR HARDWARE RUNS BETTER WITHOUT WINDOWS eipate tipota? -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr [1] Tin exei kaneis afti ti foto? exo xasei ta local ixni tis... [2] saxtouri, graftikes sti lista na mi sou to kano cc kai pairneis dio mail ka8e fora ? From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 27 13:56:23 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:56:23 +0300 Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) In-Reply-To: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> Message-ID: <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 04:30:44 +0300 Georgios Maravelias wrote: (score 1, flamebate) KAT EME, kanenas polemos, apla olos tixaios kai gia kapoio aneksigito logo (epivevaiosi? apomithopoiisi?), orismenoi BSDades epeleksan sto installfestival na mou enisxisoun tin apopsi oti einai kolimenoi, poli pio kolimenoi apo emas tous linuxades. Me eksipnous eligmous omos, kataferame na diatirisoume tin taksi :) En pasei periptosi to bsd einai safos kalitero gia server tasks. Giafto kai oi BSDades de 8a ginoun pote mainstreem. Giati einai katadikasmenoi na stinoun ena mixanima kai na to xonoun kapou na kanei ti douleia tou. Oxi oti to linux einai (etoimo) desktop, alla ta katafernei mia xara kai sto desktop, kai sto server part. Giafto ginetai kai mainstream. :wq! -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 27 14:00:52 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:00:52 +0300 Subject: EPEIGON Message-ID: <20010827140052.7df9748b.papas@wise.gr> PAIDIA, allakste ta address books sas ti lista, apo herlug at source.gr `h herlugmembers at source.gr se herlug at lists.hellug.gr pou einai i nea diefthinsi, giati 8a tin katargiso tin @source.gr an kapoios den einai grammenos sti nea lista, as paei sto http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/herlug gia leptomereies. THANX -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 11:23:23 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:23:23 +0300 Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) In-Reply-To: <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <01082711232301.00388@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 13:56, ??????????????? ???????? wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 04:30:44 +0300 Georgios Maravelias > wrote: > > (score 1, flamebate) > > KAT EME, > kanenas polemos, apla olos tixaios kai gia kapoio aneksigito logo > (epivevaiosi? apomithopoiisi?), orismenoi BSDades epeleksan sto > installfestival na mou enisxisoun tin apopsi oti einai kolimenoi, poli pio > kolimenoi apo emas tous linuxades. Me eksipnous eligmous omos, kataferame > na diatirisoume tin taksi :) Xwris tous BSDades, to installFest 8a htanpe8ameno. Xarh sthn parousia tous sthn ai8ousa dw8hke ligh zwh ekei mesa. E3allou, poio to nohma ths zwhs, xwris flames? > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 12:22:17 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:22:17 +0300 Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> > KAT EME, > kanenas polemos, apla olos tixaios kai gia kapoio aneksigito logo (epivevaiosi? apomithopoiisi?), orismenoi BSDades epeleksan sto installfestival na mou enisxisoun tin apopsi oti einai kolimenoi, poli pio kolimenoi apo emas tous linuxades. Me eksipnous eligmous omos, kataferame na diatirisoume tin taksi :) An den apatomai o ricudis einai BSDas opote katalabaineis ti theomourloi einai oi BSDades. > :wq! :w :w :w :wq Nikos From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 12:48:23 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:48:23 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <01082621195005.00285@terminus> <002a01c12e79$fdc8cb80$19083493@hp> <01082702102603.00629@terminus> Message-ID: <006c01c12edd$69ed6420$25083493@hp> > E3artatai. Auth th stigmh, nai, einai kalo opws ginetai. Kai ennow oti ta > open source leitourgika auth th stigmh den prospa8oun na fane to ena to allo > me emporika tricks, opws kanoun oi etairies (bl. diamaxh Microsoft vs SUN gia > tous browsers). Anti8eta, to ka8ena anaptusei thn ideologia tou, kai suxna > daneizetai idees apo alla leitourgika, susthmata, klp., me skopo na > beltiw8ei. Etsi, uparxoun polles luseis ki oxi mono mia. Ma ta open-source leitourgika vasizontai stin prosfora ton koinotiton tous kai den stirizontai stis etairies. Oi koinotites omos den exoun kana logo na katafugoun se emporika tricks gia na kerdisoun giati den poulane tipota. Exallou oloi oi xristes open-source leitourgikon anikoun stin idia koinotita kai pisteuoun stin idia idea. Aplos analoga me tis protimiseis tous exoun epilexei ena apo ta open leitourgika. H M$ omos kai i SUN poulane ta proionta tous kai epomenos prospathoun me oti mesa diathetoun na exafanisoun apo tin agora tous antipalopus tous.(H M$ diladi giati i SUN den exei pleon kai tosi dunami) > Apo ton "antagwnismo" twn open source leitourgikwn meta3u tous epofelountai > ola t aopenm source leitourgika. Gia pardeigma, polles apo tis gnwstes > efarmoges Linux anaptux8hkan arxika apo to Berkley (h' opws grafetai), ara > BSD, kai to Linux, fusika, tis xrhsimopoiei (p.x. to vi). Epishs, erketes > dhmofileis efarmoges anaptux8hkan gia Linux, alla trexoun kai se alla open > source leitourgika (sxedon oles oi modernes efarmoges). True > To kalo, loipon, einai oti to Linux den 8elei na e3afanhsei ta BSDs, to BeOS, > to AtheOS klp., oute, fusika, kanena apo auta skopeuei na "ri3ei" to allo. > Akoma ki peribohth Linux Comunity einai perissotero open source comunity, kai > oi idees ths aforoun pio polu ton eleu8ero kwdika, para thn epikrathsh enos > sugkekrimenou leitourgikou. Akrivos > > > > Ma fusika to kalutero leitourgiko einai to Linux. ;-) > > > > Apedei3e to :) Ma einai gnosto se olous.Mono kati kolimenoi BSDades arnountai na to katalavoun. > Koita, o tupos pou metaphdaei apo Windows se Linux kanei ena terasteio bhma. > Pernaei apo ena emporiko desktop leitourgiko (?) se ena UNIX, opote pa8ainei > ena terastio polutismiko shock. 3afnika, xreiazetai na diabasei kapoia > pragmata, na grayei kapoia pragmata (kapoia scriptaki, p.x.) kai na > ascolh8ei, kapws, me th domh tou leitourgikou, ekei pou prin apla patouse ena > double click, ki and en douleue, ekane epanegkatastash. Twra, an kati den > douleuei, prepei na brei ti ftaiei, kai an to ftia3ei. To provlima omos einai oti den prospathei na mathei alla ta perimenei ola sto piato. Kai exei tin apaitisi esy pou ston eleuthero xrono sou exeis tin diatheisi na prosfereis stin koinotita na katseis kai na tou matheis oti xereis mesa se mia ora.Sou leei malista oti eisai upoxreomenos na to kaneis.Kai tora esy ton diaolosteileis tha ftais kai apo pano. > H Linux koinothta isxurizetai oti analambanei na parexei uposthri3h stous > xrhstes. Fusika, einai adunato na parexei plhrh uposthri3h, efoson osoi thn > parexounto kanoun oikio8elws. To zhthma tou support einai polu shmantiko kai > kalws h hellug exei kanei kapoia shmantika bhmata proodou ston tomea auto. Ela omos pou uparxoun polloi pou den to katalavainoun auto.Theoroun oti ta meli tou hellug p.x. einai ypalliloi sto support dep. tis Linux co. kai epomenos einai upoxreomenoi na sou parexoun 24ori upostirixi sto spiti sou. > Den einai anagkasthka la8os h nootropia twn windows. H megalh tous epituxia > kati prepei na mas pei kai auto einai oti o xrhsths 8elei ton upologisth na > kanei MONO auto pou tou xreiazetai kai na to kanei eukola. An to Linux > filodo3ei na einai Desktop leitourgiko (pou filodo3ei), prepei na einai > euxrhsto. Kai, par' oti exoun ginei shmantika bhmata pros auth thn > kateu8unsh, to Linux den einai, akoma, euxrhsto leitourgiko. > > Isws, omws, na mhn 8elei na ginei kai toooos euxrhsto, dioti h euxrhstia > sunepagetai, kata kapoio tropo, kai duskamyia. Ena euligisto susthma einai > panta ligo pio duskolo, giati sou dinei,men , th dunatothta na kaneis > perissotera pragmata, apaitei, omws, apo esena na ta kaneis, kai den ta kanei > mono tou. To kalo me to linux pisteuo (ena apo ta kala diladi) einai oti akoma kai an ginei ena upervolika euxristo kai autopoiimeno leitourgiko panta tha exeis tin dinatotita na ta kaneis ola manualy kai opos ta thes esy. Akoma kai an uparxoun 1.000.000 frontend gia na kanoun oti malakia fantasteis, den tha kanoun tipote parapano apo oti mporeis na kaneis esy me ena vi. > > To BSD akoma den einai tis modas(tora arxizei kai ginetai gia tin akriveia) > > opote akoma oi BSDades san koinotita den antimetopizoun tetoia > > provlimata.Auto aloste einai ena thema gia to opoio mas tin lene.(An kai > > oxi gia polu dustuxos gi' autous.) > > Denblepw to BSD na ginetai, pote, toso dhmofiles. E3artata, allwste, gia pio > BSD milame. P.x., to FreeBSD, pou xrhsimopoiw egw, exei kapoia xarakthrhsthka > pou to kanoun aprosito ston polu adah xrhsth: Megali mpoukia fae...... > - Den exei polles distributions, alla mono mia, epomenws, to susthma > basizetai sto oti o xrhsths 8a to kanei customise manualy opws epi8umei (ara > prepei na 3erei na to kanei). > - Den exei kapoio polu user friedly periballon, opws auto, p.x., tou > Mandrake. > - H suntriptikh pleioyhfia twn efarmogwn gia xrhstes (office, browsers, > mailers, media players klp.) einai grammenes gia Linux, kai tis perissoteres > to FreeBSD tis uposthrizei mesw Linux Compatibility. An einai na trexeis kati > mesw Linux Compatibility, giati na mhn to trexeis apeu8eias apo Linux? Ara to Linux einai kalutero. ;-) Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 13:11:26 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:11:26 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <006c01c12edd$69ed6420$25083493@hp> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <01082702102603.00629@terminus> <006c01c12edd$69ed6420$25083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082713112603.00476@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 12:48, NTG21 wrote: > > > > > > > Ma fusika to kalutero leitourgiko einai to Linux. ;-) > > > > > > > Apedei3e to :) > > > Ma einai gnosto se olous.Mono kati kolimenoi BSDades arnountai na to > katalavoun. > Akoma ki an dextw oti einai gwnsto se olous, auto den shmainei oti einai kai alh8ino. P.x. prin apo 3000 xronia htangnwsto se olous oti h gh einai epipedh (ma kala, den eblepan ola auta ta bouna kai tis koilades?) ki oti einai to kentro tou sumpantos. Alla ola auta den htan anagkasthka swsta. H pleioyhfia xrhsimopoiei windows, kai pisteuei oti to mp3 einai kapoio ringtone gia kinhta. parxoun akoma kai an8rwpoi pou th briskoun na tous katourane sto proswpo. Auto de shmainei oti prepei ki emeis na th briskoume me ton idio tropo. Bres, loipon,merika epixeirhmata, kai mhn eisai kwlhmenos Linuxas :) > > > > To BSD akoma den einai tis modas(tora arxizei kai ginetai gia tin > > > akriveia) > > > opote akoma oi BSDades san koinotita den antimetopizoun tetoia > > > provlimata.Auto aloste einai ena thema gia to opoio mas tin lene.(An > > > kai oxi gia polu dustuxos gi' autous.) > > > > Denblepw to BSD na ginetai, pote, toso dhmofiles. E3artata, allwste, gia > > > pio BSD milame. P.x., to FreeBSD, pou xrhsimopoiw egw, exei kapoia > > > xarakthrhsthka pou to kanoun aprosito ston polu adah xrhsth: > > > > > - Den exei polles distributions, alla mono mia, epomenws, to susthma > > basizetai sto oti o xrhsths 8a to kanei customise manualy opws epi8umei > > (ara > > prepei na 3erei na to kanei). > > - Den exei kapoio polu user friedly periballon, opws auto, p.x., tou > > Mandrake. > > - H suntriptikh pleioyhfia twn efarmogwn gia xrhstes (office, browsers, > > mailers, media players klp.) einai grammenes gia Linux, kai tis > perissoteres > > to FreeBSD tis uposthrizei mesw Linux Compatibility. An einai na trexeis > kati > > mesw Linux Compatibility, giati na mhn to trexeis apeu8eias apo Linux? > > Ara to Linux einai kalutero. ;-) Nai, einai kalutero gia ton adah xrhsth, auton pou anaferame prin. Alla den 3erw kata poso 8eleis to leitourgiko sou na to xrhsimopoioun an8rwpoi pou tous aresei na tous katourane sto proswpo. > Nikos From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 12:58:03 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:58:03 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh In-Reply-To: <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> Message-ID: <01082712580302.00476@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 12:22, NTG21 wrote: > > > :wq! > : > :w > :w > :w > :wq > Auto einai ena allo shmantiko zhthma: opote 8elw na bgw apo to vi, ektelw akribws autes tis entoles: :w :w :w :wq h' otan 8elw na kanw halt to susthma ektelw: $ sync $ sync $ sync $ halt h' akoma xeirotera $ sync $ sync $ sync $ sync;sync;halt Kai den to kanw mono egw. Oloi to kanoun. Eixame, skeftei, loipon me ena filo mou (pou ekane ena feggari admin se kapoio susthma) na lusoume to problhma ftiaxnontas scriptakia, makroentoles klp. pou na kanoun akribws auto: polla saves h' syncs kai sto telos thn epi8umhth pra3h. Se liga deuterolepta egw eixa ftia3ei mia makroentolh sto vi pou ekane polla :w kai sto telos :wq ki autos ena scriptaki pou ekane polla syncs kai sto telos halt. Malista, mporouses na tou peraseis kai parametrous gia to possa syncs h8eles na sou kanei (to default htan 5 + auto pou kanei outws h' allws to halt). Apofasisame, loipon, otan 8eloume na kanoume halt to susthma h' na bgainoume apo to vi, na xrhsimopoioume tis dikes mas entoles. 8umamai oti to scriptaki tou to eixe onomasei shalt (secure halt). Oi entoles pou etrexe giana kleisei to susthma htan: $ sync $sync $sync $sync;snc;shalt :) Milhsame gia to scriptaki kai stous allous diaxeirhstes tou susthmatos (basika autos - egw hmoun aplos episkepths), ki osoi apo autous to xrhsimopoihsan, to ekanan me ton idio akribws tropo (polla syncs kai meta shalt). Diapistwsame, loipon, oti den ginetai tipota. Mallon einai sth fush tou an8rwpou. E3alou, to fainomeno (pou to onomazw "yeudasfalhyh" - apo to yeudo-asfalhs epanalhyh) parathreitai akoma kai sthn ka8hmerinh zwh. P.x. polloi gurizoun duo fores to kleidi sthn kleidaria, xwris auto na pros8etei kati sthn asfaleia tou spitiou (an oi kleftes mporoun an 3ekleidwsoun mia kleidaria pou exei gurisei mia fora, 8a mporoun kai me duo). Epishs, h frash "mhn to 3exaseis, etsi?" Ektws apo to oti h idia h frash apotelei ena trano paradeigma yeudasfalhyhs, uparxei kai to "etsi?" pou au3anei akoma perissotero thn yeudasfalhyikothta. Poia h xrhsimothta, twra, ths yeudasfalhyhs? Oso ki an sas fainetai periergo, h yeudasfalhyh einai to kalutero zeugari me to nomo tou Merfi. Dioti o nomos tou Merfy ginetai euergetikos se sundiasmo me thn yeudasfalhyh. Ki auto giati, sumfwna me to nomo tou merfy, an prosexete pernete sunexia ta metra sas mhn sumbei kati kako, to kako den 8a sumbainei, alla 8a perimenei th stigmh pou den 8a eiste pretoimasmenoi. Gia paradeigma, opote pernete adiabroxo kai omprela, den brexei, an mia fora den parete, 8a bre3ei, 8a ginetai mouskema, 8a kruwsete kai 8a pai8anete. H' to susthma pote den krasarei otan kanete polla syncs, anti8eta, an kapoia fora to 3exasete, to susthma 8a krasarei sto pio akatallhlo shmeio. To idio kai sto paradeigma tou vi, opou pantote h efarmogh peftei otan exete polh wra na kanete save, kai pote den peftei otan exete kanei polla, axrhsta, saves. Epishs, polles fores, logw yeudasfalhyhs, otan einai na fugete apo to spiti, koitate polles fores se diafora dwmatia mhpws 3exasate na parete kati mazi sas. Kai pantote diapistwnete oti ta exete parei ola apo thn arxh. An kapoia fora den koita3ete, 8a exete 3exasei ena swro pragmata. K.o.k. An den htan o nomos tou Merfy, h yeudasfalhyh 8a htan axrhsth, ki an den htan h yaudasfalhyh, o Nomos tou Merfy 8a e3akolou8ouse na tromokratei tous sugxronous mikroastous. H yeudasfalhyh einai ena megalo epiteugma ths sugxronhs mikroastikhs koultouras, pou mas odhgei sta megalutera epiteugmata tou aiwna mas, opws ta swsmena keimena, ta megala up-times kai ta stegna rouxa otan den brexei. From ntg21 at linux.gr Mon Aug 27 14:12:39 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:12:39 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> <01082712580302.00476@terminus> Message-ID: <001101c12ee9$2f35d7c0$13083493@hp> > On Monday 27 August 2001 12:58, Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.) wrote: Gamato.Thelo kai ego pantos apo auto pou pairneis. Exeis mellon telika.Mipos thes na to guriseis xana se Linux? Nikos From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 27 17:19:49 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:19:49 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh In-Reply-To: <01082712580302.00476@terminus> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> <01082712580302.00476@terminus> Message-ID: <20010827171949.22ecf3a2.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:58:03 +0300 Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.) wrote: > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync;sync;halt la8os, to sosto 8a itan: $ sync $ sync $ sync $ sync && sync && sync && halt oli i analisi itan kali, alla (opos anafereis kai esi) o nomos tou merfi karadokei. Akoma kai na kaneis 10 sync, to provlima 8a to exei i mnimi, `h o skliros, `h o controler, `h 8a pesei to revma, `h 8a sou adiasei to UPS, `h ... episis, o vi den krasarei POTE. :wq! (xoris pola :w giati an einai na r8ei 8e na r8ei, alios 8a prosperasei...) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 14:36:43 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:36:43 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato><20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr><005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp><01082712580302.00476@terminus> <20010827171949.22ecf3a2.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <004601c12eec$8c6b8220$13083493@hp> > oli i analisi itan kali, alla (opos anafereis kai esi) o nomos tou merfi karadokei. > Akoma kai na kaneis 10 sync, to provlima 8a to exei i mnimi, `h o skliros, `h o controler, `h 8a pesei to revma, `h 8a sou adiasei to UPS, `h ... True, true. O Merphy elege episis oti an mporei na sou sumvei kati kako tote tha sou sumvei.Episis an gia na kaneis kati xreiazesai n pragmata tote diathesima tha einai ta n-1. Symperasma:To kako DEN apofeugetai. An kaneis 10 sync alla par'ola auta gamithei o Dias tote tha xereis oti xreiazosoun 11. > :wq! > (xoris pola :w giati an einai na r8ei 8e na r8ei, alios 8a prosperasei...) Nai alla ta polla :w sou dinoun mia aisthisi asfaleias. Einai psuxologiko to thema. Nikos From sbolis at freemail.gr Sun Aug 26 14:53:56 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:53:56 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> <01082712580302.00476@terminus> <20010827171949.22ecf3a2.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B88E354.DCCF65E8@freemail.gr> "Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης" wrote: > la8os, to sosto 8a itan: > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync && sync && sync && halt An kai den parakoloythisa me prosoxh olo to thread (koinws de diabasa ola ta katebata sas) aplws na pw oti to na grafeis treis fores sync einai istoriko kataloipo.. e3hgoymai... stoys pitsirikades sysadmin epeidh ta xeria toys epianan fwtia (ta kanane grhgora) oi palioi toys elegan na grapsoyn 3 fores sync kai meta na pathsoyn to diakopth oxi giati den pianei to prwto sync alla mexri na kanei oti einai na kanei to prwto exoyn ta xeria toys apasxolhmena me to na grafoyn sto bronto ... an thelete kai thn parapompth kati tha brw...(h psa3te monoi sas sto google ;-) ) sbolis Y.G. moy brhkate wre kana spiti? o anthrwpos mallon katebainei ayrio.. From sbolis at freemail.gr Sun Aug 26 15:00:47 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:00:47 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> <005c01c12ed9$c48f6f80$25083493@hp> <01082712580302.00476@terminus> <20010827171949.22ecf3a2.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B88E4EF.216CD61A@freemail.gr> den kraththika.... http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/146/1996/6/0/626856/ kala na pernate... From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 16:38:32 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:38:32 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) In-Reply-To: <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Giafto kai oi BSDades de 8a ginoun pote mainstreem. Giati einai > katadikasmenoi na stinoun ena mixanima kai na to xonoun kapou na > kanei ti douleia tou. Ma to noumero ena se ari8mo xrhstwn Desktop Unix einai to FreeBSD 3.2, sthn morfh tou MacOS X... From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 20:30:40 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:30:40 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01082720304003.00288@terminus> On Monday 27 August 2001 16:35, Count Zero wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > >To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi to > > To Linux DEN einai Open Source. > > Open Source einai ena leitourgiko pou mporeis na diavaseis ton > kwdika tou kai na ton kaneis oti 8eleis. > > O kwdikas tou Linux omws DEN diavazetai, anti8eta tou BSD einai > kalogrammenos :-) Kai meta les oti den eisai BSDas? From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 15:46:56 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:46:56 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> Message-ID: <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> Magkes wraia ta flames, wraia ta panyghria alla emeis ti ftaime na mas "mameite" to bandwidth me 25 minimata tin imera. Stin teliki o ka8enas vazei oti goustarei (ektos windoze vevaia :) kai mporei na paei sto kafeneio me to filaraki toy pou paizei me alla, na poume kapoia malakia kai na plako8oune me tin isixia tous. No offense :) Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Aug 27 16:28:27 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:28:27 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082713112603.00476@terminus> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <006c01c12edd$69ed6420$25083493@hp> <01082713112603.00476@terminus> Message-ID: <01082716282700.01093@panas.iworx.gr> > Akoma ki an dextw oti einai gwnsto se olous, auto den shmainei oti einai > kai alh8ino. P.x. prin apo 3000 xronia htangnwsto se olous oti h gh einai > epipedh (ma kala, den eblepan ola auta ta bouna kai tis koilades?) ki oti > einai to kentro tou sumpantos. Alla ola auta den htan anagkasthka swsta. Ma paidia i gi den eine strogili. Mporo na apodeikso peran kathe amvivolias oti stin pragmatikotita vriskete mesa stin esoteriki pleyra mias koilis sfairas me ton ilio sto kentro tis. Olla ta peri antithetu eine mia sinomosia ton eksogiinon (aliens). :-) -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 16:28:56 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:28:56 +0300 (EEST) Subject: 8elw na eimai sth lista In-Reply-To: <01082514530001.00292@terminus> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: >> > O Bentouras DEN einai BSDas, kai mporw na to apodei3w. >> Apodeixe to loipon.Perimenoume. Kala, xreiazetai na to apodei3ei o Saxtouris? Den exw dhlwsei 200 fores oti DEN eimai BSDas? Sto InstallFest eixa pei oti 8a ferw kai enan "Filo BSDa" (ton Verigak), kai telika katelh3e (spasmeno thlefwno) na 8ewroume egw BSDas. Apo thn allh eimai KDEas. From papas at wise.gr Mon Aug 27 20:09:08 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:09:08 +0300 Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) In-Reply-To: References: <20010827135623.09188d2a.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20010827200908.18fc35d9.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:38:32 +0300 (EEST) Count Zero wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > > > Giafto kai oi BSDades de 8a ginoun pote mainstreem. Giati einai > > katadikasmenoi na stinoun ena mixanima kai na to xonoun kapou na > > kanei ti douleia tou. > > Ma to noumero ena se ari8mo xrhstwn Desktop Unix einai to > FreeBSD 3.2, sthn morfh tou MacOS X... > na o logos pou de mou aresei i BSD Lisence. Afou loipon oi BSDades koptestai peri tis eleftherias (as a beer, as a thought, whatever you may koptestai for) travate na peite stin apple (R)(TM), na sas dosei ton kodika tou quicktime (R),(TM) player, mpas kai ftiaksete kana player tis prokopis , opos episis kai ola afta ta (omologoumenos) omorfa programmatakia pou exei anaptiksei ypo tou FreeBSD 3.2 :) Tiiii??? Den sas to epitrepei i EULA? [1] oxi, ta (R),(TM) den einai tixaia. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr The apple (R) and quicktime(R) words are Registered Trademarks of Apple (R) Corp.(Inc, whatever). All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. Information in this email are provided as-is without any type of warranty. Reproduction in any form is here granted. From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 16:35:55 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:35:55 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082621195005.00285@terminus> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: >To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi to To Linux DEN einai Open Source. Open Source einai ena leitourgiko pou mporeis na diavaseis ton kwdika tou kai na ton kaneis oti 8eleis. O kwdikas tou Linux omws DEN diavazetai, anti8eta tou BSD einai kalogrammenos :-) From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 23:45:21 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:45:21 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: yeudasfalhyh In-Reply-To: <01082712580302.00476@terminus> Message-ID: Ekplhktiko ....ti bathos skepsis ,ti ekplhktiki sinepia ! omos parathrisa oti to mail den to estiles dio fores (h parapano) gia na eisai sigouros oti tha ftasi! Alla afto eimai sigouros oti apodiknii oti afou gnorizis gia tin psevdanalyh den tin xrisimopiis,alla afto me thn seira tou dixni oti den pisteveis ston nomo tou merfi opote oti grafeis den exei vasei... CoReD On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > On Monday 27 August 2001 12:22, NTG21 wrote: > > > > > :wq! > > : > > :w > > :w > > :w > > :wq > > > > Auto einai ena allo shmantiko zhthma: opote 8elw na bgw apo to vi, ektelw > akribws autes tis entoles: > > :w > :w > :w > :wq > > h' otan 8elw na kanw halt to susthma ektelw: > > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ halt > > h' akoma xeirotera > > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync;sync;halt > > Kai den to kanw mono egw. Oloi to kanoun. Eixame, skeftei, loipon me ena filo > mou (pou ekane ena feggari admin se kapoio susthma) na lusoume to problhma > ftiaxnontas scriptakia, makroentoles klp. pou na kanoun akribws auto: polla > saves h' syncs kai sto telos thn epi8umhth pra3h. Se liga deuterolepta egw > eixa ftia3ei mia makroentolh sto vi pou ekane polla :w kai sto telos :wq ki > autos ena scriptaki pou ekane polla syncs kai sto telos halt. Malista, > mporouses na tou peraseis kai parametrous gia to possa syncs h8eles na sou > kanei (to default htan 5 + auto pou kanei outws h' allws to halt). > > Apofasisame, loipon, otan 8eloume na kanoume halt to susthma h' na bgainoume > apo to vi, na xrhsimopoioume tis dikes mas entoles. 8umamai oti to scriptaki > tou to eixe onomasei shalt (secure halt). Oi entoles pou etrexe giana kleisei > to susthma htan: > > $ sync > $sync > $sync > $sync;snc;shalt > > :) > > Milhsame gia to scriptaki kai stous allous diaxeirhstes tou susthmatos > (basika autos - egw hmoun aplos episkepths), ki osoi apo autous to > xrhsimopoihsan, to ekanan me ton idio akribws tropo (polla syncs kai meta > shalt). > > Diapistwsame, loipon, oti den ginetai tipota. Mallon einai sth fush tou > an8rwpou. E3alou, to fainomeno (pou to onomazw "yeudasfalhyh" - apo to > yeudo-asfalhs epanalhyh) parathreitai akoma kai sthn ka8hmerinh zwh. P.x. > polloi gurizoun duo fores to kleidi sthn kleidaria, xwris auto na pros8etei > kati sthn asfaleia tou spitiou (an oi kleftes mporoun an 3ekleidwsoun mia > kleidaria pou exei gurisei mia fora, 8a mporoun kai me duo). Epishs, h frash > "mhn to 3exaseis, etsi?" Ektws apo to oti h idia h frash apotelei ena trano > paradeigma yeudasfalhyhs, uparxei kai to "etsi?" pou au3anei akoma > perissotero thn yeudasfalhyikothta. > > Poia h xrhsimothta, twra, ths yeudasfalhyhs? Oso ki an sas fainetai periergo, > h yeudasfalhyh einai to kalutero zeugari me to nomo tou Merfi. Dioti o nomos > tou Merfy ginetai euergetikos se sundiasmo me thn yeudasfalhyh. Ki auto > giati, sumfwna me to nomo tou merfy, an prosexete pernete sunexia ta metra > sas mhn sumbei kati kako, to kako den 8a sumbainei, alla 8a perimenei th > stigmh pou den 8a eiste pretoimasmenoi. > > Gia paradeigma, opote pernete adiabroxo kai omprela, den brexei, an mia fora > den parete, 8a bre3ei, 8a ginetai mouskema, 8a kruwsete kai 8a pai8anete. H' > to susthma pote den krasarei otan kanete polla syncs, anti8eta, an kapoia > fora to 3exasete, to susthma 8a krasarei sto pio akatallhlo shmeio. To idio > kai sto paradeigma tou vi, opou pantote h efarmogh peftei otan exete polh wra > na kanete save, kai pote den peftei otan exete kanei polla, axrhsta, saves. > Epishs, polles fores, logw yeudasfalhyhs, otan einai na fugete apo to spiti, > koitate polles fores se diafora dwmatia mhpws 3exasate na parete kati mazi > sas. Kai pantote diapistwnete oti ta exete parei ola apo thn arxh. An kapoia > fora den koita3ete, 8a exete 3exasei ena swro pragmata. K.o.k. > > An den htan o nomos tou Merfy, h yeudasfalhyh 8a htan axrhsth, ki an den htan > h yaudasfalhyh, o Nomos tou Merfy 8a e3akolou8ouse na tromokratei tous > sugxronous mikroastous. H yeudasfalhyh einai ena megalo epiteugma ths > sugxronhs mikroastikhs koultouras, pou mas odhgei sta megalutera epiteugmata > tou aiwna mas, opws ta swsmena keimena, ta megala up-times kai ta stegna > rouxa otan den brexei. > From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 23:47:39 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:47:39 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: yeudasfalhyh Message-ID: Ekplhktiko ....ti bathos skepsis ,ti ekplhktiki sinepia ! omos parathrisa oti to mail den to estiles dio fores (h parapano) gia na eisai sigouros oti tha ftasi! Alla afto eimai sigouros oti apodiknii oti afou gnorizis gia tin psevdanalyh den tin xrisimopiis,alla afto me thn seira tou dixni oti den pisteveis ston nomo tou merfi opote oti grafeis den exei vasei... CoReD On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > On Monday 27 August 2001 12:22, NTG21 wrote: > > > > > :wq! > > : > > :w > > :w > > :w > > :wq > > > > Auto einai ena allo shmantiko zhthma: opote 8elw na bgw apo to vi, ektelw > akribws autes tis entoles: > > :w > :w > :w > :wq > > h' otan 8elw na kanw halt to susthma ektelw: > > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ halt > > h' akoma xeirotera > > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync > $ sync;sync;halt > > Kai den to kanw mono egw. Oloi to kanoun. Eixame, skeftei, loipon me ena filo > mou (pou ekane ena feggari admin se kapoio susthma) na lusoume to problhma > ftiaxnontas scriptakia, makroentoles klp. pou na kanoun akribws auto: polla > saves h' syncs kai sto telos thn epi8umhth pra3h. Se liga deuterolepta egw > eixa ftia3ei mia makroentolh sto vi pou ekane polla :w kai sto telos :wq ki > autos ena scriptaki pou ekane polla syncs kai sto telos halt. Malista, > mporouses na tou peraseis kai parametrous gia to possa syncs h8eles na sou > kanei (to default htan 5 + auto pou kanei outws h' allws to halt). > > Apofasisame, loipon, otan 8eloume na kanoume halt to susthma h' na bgainoume > apo to vi, na xrhsimopoioume tis dikes mas entoles. 8umamai oti to scriptaki > tou to eixe onomasei shalt (secure halt). Oi entoles pou etrexe giana kleisei > to susthma htan: > > $ sync > $sync > $sync > $sync;snc;shalt > > :) > > Milhsame gia to scriptaki kai stous allous diaxeirhstes tou susthmatos > (basika autos - egw hmoun aplos episkepths), ki osoi apo autous to > xrhsimopoihsan, to ekanan me ton idio akribws tropo (polla syncs kai meta > shalt). > > Diapistwsame, loipon, oti den ginetai tipota. Mallon einai sth fush tou > an8rwpou. E3alou, to fainomeno (pou to onomazw "yeudasfalhyh" - apo to > yeudo-asfalhs epanalhyh) parathreitai akoma kai sthn ka8hmerinh zwh. P.x. > polloi gurizoun duo fores to kleidi sthn kleidaria, xwris auto na pros8etei > kati sthn asfaleia tou spitiou (an oi kleftes mporoun an 3ekleidwsoun mia > kleidaria pou exei gurisei mia fora, 8a mporoun kai me duo). Epishs, h frash > "mhn to 3exaseis, etsi?" Ektws apo to oti h idia h frash apotelei ena trano > paradeigma yeudasfalhyhs, uparxei kai to "etsi?" pou au3anei akoma > perissotero thn yeudasfalhyikothta. > > Poia h xrhsimothta, twra, ths yeudasfalhyhs? Oso ki an sas fainetai periergo, > h yeudasfalhyh einai to kalutero zeugari me to nomo tou Merfi. Dioti o nomos > tou Merfy ginetai euergetikos se sundiasmo me thn yeudasfalhyh. Ki auto > giati, sumfwna me to nomo tou merfy, an prosexete pernete sunexia ta metra > sas mhn sumbei kati kako, to kako den 8a sumbainei, alla 8a perimenei th > stigmh pou den 8a eiste pretoimasmenoi. > > Gia paradeigma, opote pernete adiabroxo kai omprela, den brexei, an mia fora > den parete, 8a bre3ei, 8a ginetai mouskema, 8a kruwsete kai 8a pai8anete. H' > to susthma pote den krasarei otan kanete polla syncs, anti8eta, an kapoia > fora to 3exasete, to susthma 8a krasarei sto pio akatallhlo shmeio. To idio > kai sto paradeigma tou vi, opou pantote h efarmogh peftei otan exete polh wra > na kanete save, kai pote den peftei otan exete kanei polla, axrhsta, saves. > Epishs, polles fores, logw yeudasfalhyhs, otan einai na fugete apo to spiti, > koitate polles fores se diafora dwmatia mhpws 3exasate na parete kati mazi > sas. Kai pantote diapistwnete oti ta exete parei ola apo thn arxh. An kapoia > fora den koita3ete, 8a exete 3exasei ena swro pragmata. K.o.k. > > An den htan o nomos tou Merfy, h yeudasfalhyh 8a htan axrhsth, ki an den htan > h yaudasfalhyh, o Nomos tou Merfy 8a e3akolou8ouse na tromokratei tous > sugxronous mikroastous. H yeudasfalhyh einai ena megalo epiteugma ths > sugxronhs mikroastikhs koultouras, pou mas odhgei sta megalutera epiteugmata > tou aiwna mas, opws ta swsmena keimena, ta megala up-times kai ta stegna > rouxa otan den brexei. > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Aug 27 23:54:53 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:54:53 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: Message-ID: <3B8AB39D.80EF0B23@csd.uoc.gr> CoReD wrote: > > omos parathrisa oti to mail den to estiles dio fores (h parapano) gia na > eisai sigouros oti tha ftasi! Kaneis la8os, to esteila 4 fores, alla mono h mia eftase. Ki auto ontws deixnei oti h 8ewria mou peri yeudasfalhyhs (ki oxi psevdanalyh opws grafeis - bgainei apo to yeudo-asfalhs epanalhyh) den isxuei pantote, dioti an ola osa elega isxuan, tote kai ta tessera mails mou 8a eftanan, epeidh o nomos tou merfy den 8a katadexontan na asxolh8ei me kati pou pairnei ta metra tou... Bebaia, ka8e 8ewria xreiazetai merikes e3ereseis, wste na anagkasei tous melethtes ths na thn analusoun se megalutero ba8os kai na thn sthri3oun kalutera (h' kai na thn aporiyoun). Prokeitai gia episthmonikh me8odologia. Argotera, otan 8a nekrwsei kapws h lista, 8umhste mou na sas steilw mia allh mou megalh 8ewrhtikh efeuresh, thn mhxanh ulopoihshs pi8anothtas. > Alla afto eimai sigouros oti apodiknii oti afou gnorizis gia tin > psevdanalyh den tin xrisimopiis,alla afto me thn seira tou dixni oti den > pisteveis ston nomo tou merfi opote oti grafeis den exei vasei... > > CoReD > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > > > On Monday 27 August 2001 12:22, NTG21 wrote: > > > > > > > :wq! > > > : > > > :w > > > :w > > > :w > > > :wq > > > > > > > Auto einai ena allo shmantiko zhthma: opote 8elw na bgw apo to vi, ektelw > > akribws autes tis entoles: > > > > :w > > :w > > :w > > :wq > > > > h' otan 8elw na kanw halt to susthma ektelw: > > > > $ sync > > $ sync > > $ sync > > $ halt > > > > h' akoma xeirotera > > > > $ sync > > $ sync > > $ sync > > $ sync;sync;halt > > > > Kai den to kanw mono egw. Oloi to kanoun. Eixame, skeftei, loipon me ena filo > > mou (pou ekane ena feggari admin se kapoio susthma) na lusoume to problhma > > ftiaxnontas scriptakia, makroentoles klp. pou na kanoun akribws auto: polla > > saves h' syncs kai sto telos thn epi8umhth pra3h. Se liga deuterolepta egw > > eixa ftia3ei mia makroentolh sto vi pou ekane polla :w kai sto telos :wq ki > > autos ena scriptaki pou ekane polla syncs kai sto telos halt. Malista, > > mporouses na tou peraseis kai parametrous gia to possa syncs h8eles na sou > > kanei (to default htan 5 + auto pou kanei outws h' allws to halt). > > > > Apofasisame, loipon, otan 8eloume na kanoume halt to susthma h' na bgainoume > > apo to vi, na xrhsimopoioume tis dikes mas entoles. 8umamai oti to scriptaki > > tou to eixe onomasei shalt (secure halt). Oi entoles pou etrexe giana kleisei > > to susthma htan: > > > > $ sync > > $sync > > $sync > > $sync;snc;shalt > > > > :) > > > > Milhsame gia to scriptaki kai stous allous diaxeirhstes tou susthmatos > > (basika autos - egw hmoun aplos episkepths), ki osoi apo autous to > > xrhsimopoihsan, to ekanan me ton idio akribws tropo (polla syncs kai meta > > shalt). > > > > Diapistwsame, loipon, oti den ginetai tipota. Mallon einai sth fush tou > > an8rwpou. E3alou, to fainomeno (pou to onomazw "yeudasfalhyh" - apo to > > yeudo-asfalhs epanalhyh) parathreitai akoma kai sthn ka8hmerinh zwh. P.x. > > polloi gurizoun duo fores to kleidi sthn kleidaria, xwris auto na pros8etei > > kati sthn asfaleia tou spitiou (an oi kleftes mporoun an 3ekleidwsoun mia > > kleidaria pou exei gurisei mia fora, 8a mporoun kai me duo). Epishs, h frash > > "mhn to 3exaseis, etsi?" Ektws apo to oti h idia h frash apotelei ena trano > > paradeigma yeudasfalhyhs, uparxei kai to "etsi?" pou au3anei akoma > > perissotero thn yeudasfalhyikothta. > > > > Poia h xrhsimothta, twra, ths yeudasfalhyhs? Oso ki an sas fainetai periergo, > > h yeudasfalhyh einai to kalutero zeugari me to nomo tou Merfi. Dioti o nomos > > tou Merfy ginetai euergetikos se sundiasmo me thn yeudasfalhyh. Ki auto > > giati, sumfwna me to nomo tou merfy, an prosexete pernete sunexia ta metra > > sas mhn sumbei kati kako, to kako den 8a sumbainei, alla 8a perimenei th > > stigmh pou den 8a eiste pretoimasmenoi. > > > > Gia paradeigma, opote pernete adiabroxo kai omprela, den brexei, an mia fora > > den parete, 8a bre3ei, 8a ginetai mouskema, 8a kruwsete kai 8a pai8anete. H' > > to susthma pote den krasarei otan kanete polla syncs, anti8eta, an kapoia > > fora to 3exasete, to susthma 8a krasarei sto pio akatallhlo shmeio. To idio > > kai sto paradeigma tou vi, opou pantote h efarmogh peftei otan exete polh wra > > na kanete save, kai pote den peftei otan exete kanei polla, axrhsta, saves. > > Epishs, polles fores, logw yeudasfalhyhs, otan einai na fugete apo to spiti, > > koitate polles fores se diafora dwmatia mhpws 3exasate na parete kati mazi > > sas. Kai pantote diapistwnete oti ta exete parei ola apo thn arxh. An kapoia > > fora den koita3ete, 8a exete 3exasei ena swro pragmata. K.o.k. > > > > An den htan o nomos tou Merfy, h yeudasfalhyh 8a htan axrhsth, ki an den htan > > h yaudasfalhyh, o Nomos tou Merfy 8a e3akolou8ouse na tromokratei tous > > sugxronous mikroastous. H yeudasfalhyh einai ena megalo epiteugma ths > > sugxronhs mikroastikhs koultouras, pou mas odhgei sta megalutera epiteugmata > > tou aiwna mas, opws ta swsmena keimena, ta megala up-times kai ta stegna > > rouxa otan den brexei. > > From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Aug 28 00:33:55 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:33:55 +0300 Subject: yeudasfalhyh References: <3B8AB39D.80EF0B23@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <000b01c12f3f$ff783e40$19083493@hp> > Argotera, otan 8a nekrwsei kapws h lista, 8umhste mou na sas steilw mia > allh mou megalh 8ewrhtikh efeuresh, thn mhxanh ulopoihshs pi8anothtas. Den pisteuo na anaferesai stin Xrusi kardia.Giati auti einai idea tou megalou Douglas Adams. An kai auti itan mixani apreiris apithanotitas i opoia omos ousiastika ulopoiouse upurxe opoiadipote pithanotita na ginei. Nikos P.S. Telika exoume xefugei teleios. From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Aug 28 11:37:50 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:37:50 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> Message-ID: <01082811375001.01084@panas.iworx.gr> On Mon 27 Aug 2001 15:46, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Magkes wraia ta flames, wraia ta panyghria alla emeis ti ftaime na mas > "mameite" to bandwidth me 25 minimata tin imera. Stin teliki o ka8enas > vazei oti goustarei (ektos windoze vevaia :) kai mporei na paei sto > kafeneio me to filaraki toy pou paizei me alla, na poume kapoia malakia kai > na plako8oune me tin isixia tous. > > No offense :) > > Manwlis > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Oxi, oxi, thelo na do aima thelo na do sfagi, thelo na vlepo Rambo, thelo flames (ase pu kratame to epipedo politismeno mexris stigmis ke mathenume ke merika pragmatakia.) Oso pros to deytero skelos simfono stin protasi su to anotero na sizitithei se kafeneio. Malista exume afisei tin epimorfosi tis kulas ke ton loipon thamonon eleipi. Ti lete ? Y.G. Dipla exei ta toixi tis poleos, opou mporei na dieksakthei stin sinexeia politismena i sizitisis me varea epixeirimata. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From ntg21 at linux.gr Tue Aug 28 13:37:16 2001 From: ntg21 at linux.gr (NTG21) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:37:16 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> <01082811375001.01084@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: <001a01c12fad$6903f800$0b083493@hp> > Oxi, oxi, thelo na do aima thelo na do sfagi, thelo na vlepo Rambo, thelo > flames (ase pu kratame to epipedo politismeno mexris stigmis ke mathenume ke > merika pragmatakia.) Aderfe Gianni se sugxairo gia tis apopseis sou. > Oso pros to deytero skelos simfono stin protasi su to anotero na sizitithei > se kafeneio. Malista exume afisei tin epimorfosi tis kulas ke ton loipon > thamonon eleipi. Ti lete ? Egrino.Epeidi i oli fasi sikonei fai kai poto tha proteina se kana fagadiko.Min tin vgaloume nistikoi. ;-) > Y.G. Dipla exei ta toixi tis poleos, opou mporei na dieksakthei stin sinexeia > politismena i sizitisis me varea epixeirimata. Mesa. Nikos From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 14:35:27 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:35:27 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082811375001.01084@panas.iworx.gr> References: <01082604340600.01956@Lato> <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> <01082811375001.01084@panas.iworx.gr> Message-ID: <200108281138.f7SBcGx15625@tux.hellug.gr> Mou fainetai 8a parw tin koumpoura tou pro-pappou tis aderfis tou venzina tou geitona mou kai to turbo-volo Nerf mou kai 8a xw8w ki egw sti maxi sto telos... Manwlis On Tuesday 28 August 2001 11:37, you wrote: > On Mon 27 Aug 2001 15:46, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > > Magkes wraia ta flames, wraia ta panyghria alla emeis ti ftaime na mas > > "mameite" to bandwidth me 25 minimata tin imera. Stin teliki o ka8enas > > vazei oti goustarei (ektos windoze vevaia :) kai mporei na paei sto > > kafeneio me to filaraki toy pou paizei me alla, na poume kapoia malakia > > kai na plako8oune me tin isixia tous. > > > > No offense :) > > > > Manwlis > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Oxi, oxi, thelo na do aima thelo na do sfagi, thelo na vlepo Rambo, thelo > flames (ase pu kratame to epipedo politismeno mexris stigmis ke mathenume > ke merika pragmatakia.) > > Oso pros to deytero skelos simfono stin protasi su to anotero na sizitithei > se kafeneio. Malista exume afisei tin epimorfosi tis kulas ke ton loipon > thamonon eleipi. Ti lete ? > > Y.G. Dipla exei ta toixi tis poleos, opou mporei na dieksakthei stin > sinexeia politismena i sizitisis me varea epixeirimata. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Tue Aug 28 15:32:55 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:32:55 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01082720304003.00288@terminus> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: >> O kwdikas tou Linux omws DEN diavazetai, anti8eta tou BSD einai >> kalogrammenos :-) >Kai meta les oti den eisai BSDas? Egw lew apla th alh8eia, den anhkw se kammia parata3h :-) From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Tue Aug 28 15:37:43 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:37:43 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <200108271250.f7RCojx05919@tux.hellug.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: >Magkes wraia ta flames, wraia ta panyghria alla emeis ti ftaime na mas >"mameite" to bandwidth me 25 minimata tin imera. (...) > kai mporei na paei sto kafeneio me to filaraki toy pou paizei > me alla, na poume kapoia malakia kai na plako8oune me > tin isixia tous. Nomiza oti to na "poume kapoia malakia" kai genika h syzhthsh, peri Linux, UNIX, gkomenwn (ha!), kai allwn tinwn einai kai o skopos ths paroushs listas. An den einai kai an yparxei kapoio antwtato orio -p.x 25 mynh- matwn thn hmera, as to pei kapoios na kanw ena unsub- scribe. P.S H pollh sovarofaneia blaptei. No offense... From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Tue Aug 28 15:43:25 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:43:25 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux and BSD (WAS: Linux VS BSD ) In-Reply-To: <20010827200908.18fc35d9.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: >na o logos pou de mou aresei i BSD Lisence. > >Afou loipon oi BSDades koptestai peri tis eleftherias (as a beer, as a thought, whatever you may koptestai for) travate na peite stin apple (R)(TM), na sas dosei ton kodika tou quicktime (R),(TM) player, mpas kai ftiaksete kana player tis prokopis , opos episis kai ola afta ta (omologoumenos) omorfa programmatakia pou exei anaptiksei ypo tou FreeBSD 3.2 :) >Tiiii??? Den sas to epitrepei i EULA? To Quicktime omws h Apple to eftia3e monh ths kai mporei na to dia8esei opws 8elei -epeidh egine ths modas h ennoia Open Source den shmainei oti oloi prepei na kanoun oti ftia- xnoun Open Source. To Darwin apo thn allh, to leitourgiko pou to exei basisei se FreeBSD to dianemei me Open Source adeia. Kai arketa alla prag- mata (px. exei kanei shmantikes beltiwseis sthn Java, pou tis epistrefei ston stanard compiler, se synergasia me thn SUN, klp). From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 19:23:59 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:23:59 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: Message-ID: <3B8BC59F.7010109@yahoo.com> Count Zero wrote: >On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > >>Magkes wraia ta flames, wraia ta panyghria alla emeis ti ftaime na mas >>"mameite" to bandwidth me 25 minimata tin imera. >> >(...) > >>kai mporei na paei sto kafeneio me to filaraki toy pou paizei >>me alla, na poume kapoia malakia kai na plako8oune me >>tin isixia tous. >> > > Nomiza oti to na "poume kapoia malakia" kai genika h >syzhthsh, peri Linux, UNIX, gkomenwn (ha!), kai allwn >tinwn einai kai o skopos ths paroushs listas. An den >einai kai an yparxei kapoio antwtato orio -p.x 25 mynh- >matwn thn hmera, as to pei kapoios na kanw ena unsub- >scribe. > >P.S H pollh sovarofaneia blaptei. No offense... > Se kammia periptwsh den 8a xarakthriza sovarofaneia to na min 8eleis na perimeneis na katevoun mia ntouzina (kai vale pleon) mail ka8e prwi ta opoia moiazoun me syzhthsh tou styl xy-akos vs. zk-akos (de lew onomata omadwn - den arxizw allo flame). Apla h syzhthsh ayth einai endless-loop kai den exei nohma ka8ws opws anefer8hke se allo mail *den* yparxei to teleio leitourgiko kai den 8a mporesei na ypar3ei pote... Den 8etw se kammia periptwsh kanena orio se kanenan allo kai oute prospa8w na epivalw se kapoion kati. Twra an orismenoi goustarete na plakwneste sta flames gia to poios exei to kalytero aytokinhtaki, den yparxei provlima, 3egrafomai kai pali filoi eimaste (mexri na vrw tis diey8hnseis sas kai na sas parousiasw san ypourgovouleytes stin 25 Decembri :) Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From papas at wise.gr Tue Aug 28 22:41:59 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:41:59 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8BC59F.7010109@yahoo.com> References: <3B8BC59F.7010109@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010828224159.72eb3bbe.papas@wise.gr> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:23:59 +0300 Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Se kammia periptwsh den 8a xarakthriza sovarofaneia to na min 8eleis na > perimeneis na katevoun mia ntouzina (kai vale pleon) mail ka8e prwi ta > opoia moiazoun me syzhthsh tou styl xy-akos vs. zk-akos (de lew onomata > omadwn - den arxizw allo flame). > Apla h syzhthsh ayth einai endless-loop kai den exei nohma ka8ws opws > anefer8hke se allo mail *den* yparxei to teleio leitourgiko kai den 8a > mporesei na ypar3ei pote... re manoli, ola ston kosmo sxetika einai, kai me afti ti logiki de 8a eprepe na iparxei dialogos. > Den 8etw se kammia periptwsh kanena orio se kanenan allo kai oute > prospa8w na epivalw se kapoion kati. Twra an orismenoi goustarete na > plakwneste sta flames gia to poios exei to kalytero aytokinhtaki, den > yparxei provlima, 3egrafomai kai pali filoi eimaste (mexri na vrw tis > diey8hnseis sas kai na sas parousiasw san ypourgovouleytes stin 25 > Decembri :) > > Manwlis > Eksalou emeis tin plaka mas kanoume kai an metaksi asteiou kai sovarou, linoume kai kana provlima, kala einai. Apo tin alli, den ipirksan flames edo, anti8etos legame asteiakia metaksi mas, kai goustarame. An den goustareis, mporeis panta na ksegrafteis, alla meta de 8a ftaime emeis an sou kaei to sony monitor, kai an sou xtipisei o skliros me to slackware, o scsi pou ponaei :) pantos prepei na paradexteis oti i katastasi einai poli kaliteri apo tin lgu. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 21:17:47 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:17:47 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: <3B8BC59F.7010109@yahoo.com> <20010828224159.72eb3bbe.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: >On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:23:59 +0300 Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > >>Se kammia periptwsh den 8a xarakthriza sovarofaneia to na min 8eleis na >>perimeneis na katevoun mia ntouzina (kai vale pleon) mail ka8e prwi ta >>opoia moiazoun me syzhthsh tou styl xy-akos vs. zk-akos (de lew onomata >>omadwn - den arxizw allo flame). >>Apla h syzhthsh ayth einai endless-loop kai den exei nohma ka8ws opws >>anefer8hke se allo mail *den* yparxei to teleio leitourgiko kai den 8a >>mporesei na ypar3ei pote... >> > >re manoli, ola ston kosmo sxetika einai, kai me afti ti logiki de 8a eprepe na iparxei dialogos. > >>Den 8etw se kammia periptwsh kanena orio se kanenan allo kai oute >>prospa8w na epivalw se kapoion kati. Twra an orismenoi goustarete na >>plakwneste sta flames gia to poios exei to kalytero aytokinhtaki, den >>yparxei provlima, 3egrafomai kai pali filoi eimaste (mexri na vrw tis >>diey8hnseis sas kai na sas parousiasw san ypourgovouleytes stin 25 >>Decembri :) >> >>Manwlis >> > >Eksalou emeis tin plaka mas kanoume kai an metaksi asteiou kai sovarou, linoume kai kana provlima, kala einai. >Apo tin alli, den ipirksan flames edo, anti8etos legame asteiakia metaksi mas, kai goustarame. > >An den goustareis, mporeis panta na ksegrafteis, alla meta de 8a ftaime emeis an sou kaei to sony monitor, kai an sou xtipisei o skliros me to slackware, o scsi pou ponaei :) > > >pantos prepei na paradexteis oti i katastasi einai poli kaliteri apo tin lgu. > >-- >Vagelis Papadogiannakis >http://www.wise.gr >papas at wise.gr > Isws na exeis dikio apla exw psilosixa8ei tin lgu gia paromoious logous (px. to diko mou distro gamei, to diko sou einai gia ta mpaza ktl.) gi' ayto kai sifiliastika me tin oli katastasi. Alla ka8oti 8a me katarasteitean tin kanw (kai kala to sony monitor to pernaw se kammia eggyhsh, sto scsi 8a kanw eyxelaio giati etsi kai xtyphsei 8a ginei "tsi pornis" pou leei ki o Gabriel :) 8a 3ekinhsw diko mou flame pou pistevw 8a goustarei ki o Ventouras !!! WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Tue Aug 28 21:43:20 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:43:20 +0300 Subject: DXR3 on Mandrake Linux In-Reply-To: <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> References: <20010828224159.72eb3bbe.papas@wise.gr> <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01082821530100.02567@Lato> simera egatestisa to Mandrake Linux 8.1 Beta ...... meta apo ena psaximo se diafora programatakia (mias ke ine i proti fora pou dokiamzo ke vlepo afti tin dianomi ) vrika oti anagnorise tin karta MPG pou exo gia DVD (sigekrimena tin DXr3 tis creative) me tin moni diadora oti anefere to programa oti den exo tin DXr3 ala tin Hollywood (paromia pio ftini ke pio kali ) o provliamtismos mou ine o exis gia na to anagnorise afto ot programa simeni oti kapou tha exi perasi drivers .. .. th ithela na rotiso ana xeri kanis pos mporo na tin kano afti tin karta na doulepsi (kanena programa pou na sinergazete ktlp _ ) ke na do epitelous DVD sto linux .... (simiosi .... edo ke 1 mina apo tote pou ksanaegatestisa ta windows oute eki doulevi....ke as exi dikous tou eki drivers ke programata ( konstantine .. ne gia sena pigene afto ;P ) ) filika Georgios Maravelias ---------------------------------------- -E ke pe mou ane pistevis ston sevnta monomias ; -OH !!!!!!!!!!! -Ane kamo da ompros sou mia apokolourida ke me xaniksis pali inta les ? <> ---------------------------------------- From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Tue Aug 28 23:02:23 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:02:23 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> References: <20010828224159.72eb3bbe.papas@wise.gr> <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01082823022304.00292@terminus> On Tuesday 28 August 2001 21:17, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > > WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw > apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws KDE ++ From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Wed Aug 29 03:03:21 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:03:21 +0300 Subject: DXR3 on Mandrake Linux In-Reply-To: <3B8C1CD7.7050500@yahoo.com> References: <01082821530100.02567@Lato> <3B8C1CD7.7050500@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01082903050900.01248@Lato> file thanks eee ise korifi ........ tha stilo neotera ean katafero tora ke doulepsi ...... ciao ....................... From konstantinos at iworx.gr Wed Aug 29 11:03:51 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:03:51 +0300 Subject: DXR3 on Mandrake Linux References: <01082821530100.02567@Lato> <3B8C1CD7.7050500@yahoo.com> <01082903050900.01248@Lato> Message-ID: <002801c13061$255b5cb0$0d00a8c0@universe> Vre remali, EROTISI: mou eipes pote oti den doulevei to DVD sou na ertho na to ftiakso? APANTISI: OXI - NIET - NO (se alles glosses den to ksero).... Opote, an theleis na paiksei, mporeis na kanoniseis mazi mou kai na sto ftiakso.. :)))) Ciao.... Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Wed Aug 29 13:55:28 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:55:28 +0300 Subject: DXR3 on Mandrake Linux In-Reply-To: <002801c13061$255b5cb0$0d00a8c0@universe> References: <01082903050900.01248@Lato> <002801c13061$255b5cb0$0d00a8c0@universe> Message-ID: <01082913590100.00726@Lato> On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides wrote: > Vre remali, > > EROTISI: mou eipes pote oti den doulevei to DVD sou na ertho na to ftiakso? > APANTISI: OXI - NIET - NO (se alles glosses den to ksero).... a) na erthis na kanis ti ????? afou to provlima to exoun ta windows ..... > Opote, an theleis na paiksei, mporeis na kanoniseis mazi mou kai na sto > ftiakso.. :)))) b) an ine na erthis na ftiaxis tipota sto pc mou tote na mou se valo ke asxolithis me ta efkola (kartes mpg se windows ke linux ) ala na se valo na mou kanis to quake3 na pezi sfera sto linux !!!! ( an den to katalaves se prokalo xixixixixix) ke gia osous "xeroun" exo tin TNT2 M64 xixixixixixixixix ante se perimeno ...... > Ciao.... astalavista baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Wed Aug 29 14:43:52 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:43:52 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8BC59F.7010109@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: >Apla h syzhthsh ayth einai endless-loop kai den exei nohma ka8ws opws >anefer8hke se allo mail *den* yparxei to teleio leitourgiko kai den 8a >mporesei na ypar3ei pote... Nai, alla oi kalyteres syzhthseis einai endless loops. Ola ta megala filosofika 8emata (poioi eimaste, pou pame, Vi h' emacs) klp einai auths ths morfhs. From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Wed Aug 29 14:45:24 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:45:24 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8BE04B.9060607@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: >WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw >apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws KDE++ From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Wed Aug 29 22:29:16 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (Nikos Xatzimpontozis) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:29:16 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD Message-ID: > >WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw > >apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws > > KDE++ Wmaker vs ++KDE 2-3 Nikos. From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Thu Aug 30 00:40:15 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:40:15 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD References: Message-ID: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> OK, kerdisate... 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura polla vitsia. Eytyxeite, Manwlis Nikos Xatzimpontozis wrote: >>>WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw >>>apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws >>> >>KDE++ >> > >Wmaker vs ++KDE 2-3 > >Nikos. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Aug 30 02:23:28 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (Nikos Xatzimpontozis) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:23:28 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD Message-ID: > OK, kerdisate... > 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : > > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > > Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai > eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura > polla vitsia. Tora an sou po oti exo KDE 2.2 se P II me 64MB RAM ti tha peis? ;-) H alitheia einai oti einai mnimovoro pantos.Me 64MB thelei kai ligo swap.Me 128MB omos den exei provlima. Nikos From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Thu Aug 30 09:42:10 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:42:10 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> Message-ID: egw xrisimopoiw ena poly voliko syndiasmo IceWm + KDE 2.2 (diladi ta ergaleia tou kde kai oxi to idio to kde) -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > > OK, kerdisate... > 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : > > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > > Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai > eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura > polla vitsia. > > Eytyxeite, > Manwlis > > > > Nikos Xatzimpontozis wrote: > > >>>WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw > >>>apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws > >>> > >>KDE++ > >> > > > >Wmaker vs ++KDE 2-3 > > > >Nikos. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From papas at wise.gr Thu Aug 30 14:26:41 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:26:41 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> References: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010830142641.4d25fca9.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:40:15 +0300 Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > > OK, kerdisate... > 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : > > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > > Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai > eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura > polla vitsia. > > Eytyxeite, > Manwlis nai, exeis dikio, alla an 8es akoma kalitera apotelesmata, dokimase icewm :) 8irio einai o poustis! Ase, ego eimai kolimenos me ton KDE apo to 2.1 kai meta, kai na fantasteis oti prin tin 2.1 den i8ela na akouso KDE, para mono gnome. Otan omos efiga apo ena periballon entomon (GNOME, poli buggy) kai piga se ena perivallon windows (KDE) eida to fos mou sto desktop... As min anoiksoume flamewar, alla to K desktop environment einai olokliromeno desktop... To gnu network object model environment, einai -apla- ena specification :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Aug 30 12:17:49 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:17:49 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> References: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01083012174901.00296@terminus> On Thursday 30 August 2001 00:40, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > OK, kerdisate... > 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : > > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > > Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai > eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura > polla vitsia. Wraia, an einai etsi, na sas metaferw to diko mou dhlima: KDE (2.x) vs Wmaker se ena Pentium 133 me 32 MB RAM, 14.400 mbps modem, o8onh Shamrock 14" pou mporei na piasei 70 Hz sta 1024x768 (an setareis swsta ta X11) ena disko 1G ki ena xalasmeno disko 2.5 G Dokimasa diafors luseis, otan eixa auto to karbouni (mexri kai prin apo 3 mhnes). Kapote, h palaiothta tou htan o logos pou phga apo ta Windows se ena pio apodotiko leitourgiko (Linux) kai twra (prin apo kanena xrono,dhladh) oute kai to Linux tou ekane, ka8ws oi kainouries dists eixan minimum apaithseis panw apo tis dikes tou maximum epidwseis, me thn ennoia oti den mporousa na tre3w sxedon kamia moderna efarmogh. Ti KDE 2.x kai anohsies? Ki o Wmaker htan panargos gi auto to PC. H kaluterh lush pou eixa dokimasei htan, fusika, to BlackBox kai oi console mode efarmoges pou trexoun apo termatiko. 8umamai oti mono sefarisma ekana me grafikh efarmogh (kapoio palio kalo Netscape - o konqueror sernotane). Otidhpote allo ginotan apo aterm (to kalutero termatiko pou mporouse na shkwsei to PC mou xwris na fainetai oti einai karbouni). Autes htan epoxes... San kataloipo auths ths peripeteias, shmera pou exw ena grhgoro mhxanhma, trexw akoma BlackBox (pou outws h' allws einai mia xara wm) xrhsimopoiw aterm, den xrhsimopoiw pote xmms (mp3 paizoun me mpg123 kai CDs me cdplay ola apo aterm) kai den xrhsimopoiw pote kppp, alla shkwnw ppp apo aterm :) > Eytyxeite, > Manwlis > > Nikos Xatzimpontozis wrote: > >>>WindowMaker vs. KDE (i' alliws to volley me to trolley) - Perimenw > >>>apopseis, gia tin wra 2-0 pantws > >> > >>KDE++ > > > >Wmaker vs ++KDE 2-3 > > > >Nikos. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Aug 30 12:29:04 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:29:04 +0300 Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <20010830142641.4d25fca9.papas@wise.gr> References: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> <20010830142641.4d25fca9.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <01083012290404.00296@terminus> On Thursday 30 August 2001 14:26, ??????????????? ???????? wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:40:15 +0300 Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > > OK, kerdisate... > > 8a to 8esw alliws loipon : > > > > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > > > > Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai > > eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura > > polla vitsia. > > > > Eytyxeite, > > Manwlis > > nai, exeis dikio, alla an 8es akoma kalitera apotelesmata, dokimase icewm > :) 8irio einai o poustis! BlackBox 'u'ber alles !!! Oxi oti to ice einai asxhmo, alla to BlackBox einai akoma pio grhgoro (exei dokimastei stis pio anti3oes sun8hkes - kai den ennow ton P 133 pou eipa prin, alla enan Intel 486 me to sxetiko hardware ths arxaias epoxhs twn PCs - kai exei kerdisei th maxh). > Ase, ego eimai kolimenos me ton KDE apo to 2.1 kai meta, kai na fantasteis > oti prin tin 2.1 den i8ela na akouso KDE, para mono gnome. Otan omos efiga > apo ena periballon entomon (GNOME, poli buggy) kai piga se ena perivallon > windows (KDE) eida to fos mou sto desktop... Kala, kai to KDE einai ligo buggy... > As min anoiksoume flamewar, alla to K desktop environment einai > olokliromeno desktop... To gnu network object model environment, einai > -apla- ena specification :) From gabriel at stsnet.gr Thu Aug 30 13:44:32 2001 From: gabriel at stsnet.gr (Gabriel Tzagkarakis) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:44:32 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01083012174901.00296@terminus> Message-ID: hello, e as pw kai gw thn gnwmh mou , FVWM elarfus kai grhgoros bebaia mexri na to fereis sta metra sou prepei na bgaleis ta matia sou diabazontas ta manuals tou alla meta einai TELEIO. nomizw pws kai o kissandrakis sumfwnei :) ( poso einai twra to skor me tous wm's ? ) kalh mera na exoume (an kai einai mesimeri) -=Gabriel=- From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Aug 30 14:36:32 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:36:32 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <3B8D613F.1020906@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > KDE (2.2) vs. WindowMaker se Celeron/300 me 64 mb ram. > >Kyrioi, twra den sas afhsa peri8wria oute gi' asteio, opoios einai >eytyxismenos me to yperapaititiko KDE 2.2 se tetoio systemi exei sigoura >polla vitsia. Se ena systhma 3 xronwn palio, dhladh. Alla tote, giati oxi kai: Wmaker h' TWM se ena 386 me 16MB mnhmh? H' akoma: Consola h' 1 xterm kai 2 X-clients (px. xload, xbiff) se ena 286 sta 16Mhz? From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Aug 30 15:39:32 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:39:32 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linux VS BSD In-Reply-To: <01083012290404.00296@terminus> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: >Kala, kai to KDE einai ligo buggy... OLA ta programmata einai ligo buggy (kane grep gia XXX FIXME klp sto source tou Linux gia na breis xiliades anoi- kta bugs). To Gnome omws einai POLY buggy. To Blackbox exei kai auto ta bugs tou (rwta ton Harry). From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Thu Aug 30 17:23:18 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:23:18 +0300 Subject: Vasi Slot-1 CPU Request Message-ID: <3B8E4C56.3000900@yahoo.com> Hello se olous sas, ok to paradexomai ki emena m' aresei to KDE (kai afierwsa mia oloklhrh mera na compili-asw to 2.2 alla xalalh tou) alla einai sxetika vary kai windoze-adiko = ligo kourastiko orismenes fores. Gi' ayto kai protimw WMaker. Pantws gia termatiko se X paizw konsole teleytaia, ki as kanei 3 fores perissotero xrono na fortwsei apo to rxvt. (ta vitsia pou legame...) To provlima mou einai allo twra. Mhpws exeis kaneis kammia perisseia vasi (aytakia) gia Slot-1 CPU ? Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Aug 31 21:00:56 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:00:56 +0300 Subject: Gabrihl ... EPEIGON Message-ID: <01083121005600.00135@black> Gabrihl 8elw na sou steilw ena proswpiko :) mail alla den 3erw to mail sou, an blepeis ta mail steile mou ena na sou pw! Lefteris P.S. Paidia exw xa8ei apo ti lista to 3erw alla einai epoxh pou diabazw twra kai den prolabainw... Ta leme From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Sep 3 03:49:52 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 03:49:52 +0300 Subject: Aporia Message-ID: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> Exw na rwthsw kati: poios einai o orismos tou Linuxa? Ws apanthseis mporoun na dw8oun oia poyeis tou ka8enws sxetika me to ti einai linuxas, alla kai pi8anoi "egkuroi" orismoi pou exoun dw8ei apo "egkura" proswpa h' prganismous h' klp. Prokeimenou na diegeirw ligo to mualo sas, 8etw merika upar3iaka erwthmata? A. An kapoios exei Linux ston upologisth tou, auto ton kanei Linuxa? A1. An kapoios xrhsimopoiei Linux ws basiko tou leitourgiko, auto ton kanei Linuxa? B. An kapoios 3erei kala to Linux, auto ton kanei Linuxa? B1. An kapoios einai linux admin, auto ton kanei Linuxa? B2. An kapoios oneireuetai na ginei kapote Linux admin, auto ton kanei Linuxa? C. An kapoios einai grammenos sth hellug, h'/kai se alles paromoies listes, summetexei sta happenings tou Linux, parakolou8ei tis e3eli3eis, einai Linuxas? D. O Linuxas einai opados tou Linux, gnwsths tou Linux, erasths tou Linux, xrhsths tou Linux h' kapoios sundiasmos autwn? H' mhpws einai kati teleiws diaforetiko? Kai oi apanthseis, kata th gnwmh mou (nai, xm..., oxi): A: oxi A1: xm... B: nai B1: oxi B2: oxi C: oxi D: O Linuxas, basika, einai gnwsths tou Linux, alla tautoxrona mporei na einai kai erasths tou, opados tou kai xrhsths tou. Suny8ws, malista, oi Linuxades einai ola auta mazi. Wstoso, an kapoios den einai gnwsths tou Linux, tote den einai Linuxas, alla wannabe-Linuxas (opws not-Linuxas). From papas at wise.gr Mon Sep 3 14:37:52 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:37:52 +0300 Subject: Linuxas einai... In-Reply-To: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> References: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> Message-ID: <20010903143752.42bb4dbe.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 03:49:52 +0300 Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.) wrote: *IMHO* linuxas den einai aftos pou exei linux ston ypologisti tou, oute aftos pou einai gamaoua linux administrator. Linuxas den einai aftos pou to kirio leitourgiko tou einai linux. Linuxas episis, den einai opoios einai grammenos se linux listes, oute aftos pou vrizei ta windows. Den einai se kamia periptosi enas hacker/cracker, oute ena script kiddi pou xrisimopoiei eksipna (plin etoima) exploits. Linuxas den einai aparaitita aftos pou kserei C/C++ oute einai o kernel hacker, parolo pou afto tou dinei megales pi8anotites. Linuxas den einai aparaitita aftos pou se ka8e tou sizitish iparxei to linux, den einai oute kan aftos o pio dogmatika en8ermos ipostirixtis tou. Se kamia periptosi enas linuxas den anoigei anousies sizitiseis peri dianomon, afou kserei oti to linux einai ena, oute peri windowmanagers, afou kserei oti peri orekseos kolokithopita. Linuxas einai aftos gia ton opoio i pio sexy morfi einai o TUX. Aftos pou sto akousma tis lekshs ``linux'' xamogelaei. Einai aftos pou i filosofia tou open source exei xaraxtei mesa tou kai ton ka8odigei se ka8e praksi, sxetiki `h asxeth me tous ypologistes. Linuxas einai aftos pou otan akouei gia katapatisi tis eleftherias skepsis kati ton pianei. Einai aftos ston opoio i gnosi einai kati to opoio prepei na moirazetai, toso i diki tou oso kai ton allon. Einai o idios pou mporei kai 8elei na voithisei ena arxario, alla oxi dinontas tou tin apantisi, ka8odigontas ton na tin vrei, kanontas ton eftixismeno kai pnevmatika plousiotero. Einai aftos pou apodedeigmena voithaei (me ton tropo tou, esto) tin koinotita. Einai aftos pou pistevei, me ena mi dogmatiko tropo, stin iperoxi oxi mono tou linux, alla kai opoioudipote allou leitourgikou voithaei sto ``evolving'' tis an8ropotitas kai tis koinonias tis texnologias, kai einai se 8esi na to apodeiksei. Aftos pou kserei oti to mialo to! u einai kai ton allon, oti apotelei ena ``think tank'' mazi me mena kai sena kai ton Bill Gates. Einai aftos pou to sevetai, pou to fobatai, aftos poy se kamia periptosi den ksestomizei ``ksero linux''. Nai, aftos pou otan exei mprosta tou to ``#'' koitazei 20 fores ti exei grapsei prin patisei ``enter''. Aftos pou pote den stirizetai se afta pou kserei, afta pou katexei, gia afto kai kanei backup, giafto kai exei UPS. Einai o tipakos aftos pou kserei na diavazei logs, kai taftoxrona krataei to checksum ton arxeion tou. Einai o nerd pou kserei ti (kai pos to) kanei to configure, alla mporei na doulepsei (i mesa se liga lepta na katalabei) kai to rpm, apt-get kai oti allo package managment paketo iparxei. An einai OLA afta mazi, tote EINAI. > Exw na rwthsw kati: > > poios einai o orismos tou Linuxa? > > Ws apanthseis mporoun na dw8oun oia poyeis tou ka8enws sxetika me to ti einai > linuxas, alla kai pi8anoi "egkuroi" orismoi pou exoun dw8ei apo "egkura" > proswpa h' prganismous h' klp. > > Prokeimenou na diegeirw ligo to mualo sas, 8etw merika upar3iaka erwthmata? > > A. An kapoios exei Linux ston upologisth tou, auto ton kanei Linuxa? > A1. An kapoios xrhsimopoiei Linux ws basiko tou leitourgiko, auto ton kanei > Linuxa? > > B. An kapoios 3erei kala to Linux, auto ton kanei Linuxa? > B1. An kapoios einai linux admin, auto ton kanei Linuxa? > B2. An kapoios oneireuetai na ginei kapote Linux admin, auto ton kanei Linuxa? > > C. An kapoios einai grammenos sth hellug, h'/kai se alles paromoies listes, > summetexei sta happenings tou Linux, parakolou8ei tis e3eli3eis, einai > Linuxas? > > D. O Linuxas einai opados tou Linux, gnwsths tou Linux, erasths tou Linux, > xrhsths tou Linux h' kapoios sundiasmos autwn? H' mhpws einai kati teleiws > diaforetiko? > > Kai oi apanthseis, kata th gnwmh mou (nai, xm..., oxi): > > A: oxi > A1: xm... > > B: nai > B1: oxi > B2: oxi > > C: oxi > > D: O Linuxas, basika, einai gnwsths tou Linux, alla tautoxrona mporei na > einai kai erasths tou, opados tou kai xrhsths tou. Suny8ws, malista, oi > Linuxades einai ola auta mazi. Wstoso, an kapoios den einai gnwsths tou > Linux, tote den einai Linuxas, alla wannabe-Linuxas (opws not-Linuxas). > -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 17:08:42 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 17:08:42 +0300 Subject: Linuxas einai... References: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> <20010903143752.42bb4dbe.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B938EEA.1090304@yahoo.com> Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote : >Linuxas einai aftos gia ton opoio i pio sexy morfi einai o TUX. > Vaggeli s' ayto ofeilw na se dior8wsw :) Gia pan endiaferomeno : www.linux-never-looked-this-good.de Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From papas at wise.gr Mon Sep 3 20:31:40 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 20:31:40 +0300 Subject: Linuxas einai... In-Reply-To: <3B938EEA.1090304@yahoo.com> References: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> <20010903143752.42bb4dbe.papas@wise.gr> <3B938EEA.1090304@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010903203140.49fa96dc.papas@wise.gr> On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 17:08:42 +0300 Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote : > > >Linuxas einai aftos gia ton opoio i pio sexy morfi einai o TUX. > > > Vaggeli s' ayto ofeilw na se dior8wsw :) > > Gia pan endiaferomeno : > > http://www.linux-never-looked-this-good.de > > Manwlis aaaaax, nai :o)~ kala, an simfoneis se ola ta alla, de 8a ta xalasoume gia kati to opoio einai sxetiko :) ego as poume vrisko ti bjork fo-ve-ra sexy, alla eimai sigouros oti kaneis allos de simfonei mazi mou :[ -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From fuabap at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 17:28:57 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:28:57 +0000 Subject: Linux vs BSD Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From papas at wise.gr Mon Sep 3 20:53:17 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 20:53:17 +0300 Subject: Linux vs BSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010903205317.785f0da5.papas@wise.gr> kathoti o ligotero empeiros se themata linux oson afora ta desktop thelo na anafero ayta poy exo parathrhsei sto pc moy : KDE:buggy kai vary alla poly voliko GNOME:buggy kai poly windowz-like twm:pote den katalaba thn xrhsh toyopos kai ton allon wm terminal:isos to pio boliko an kai den einai desktop sto myalo omos moy hrthe to IF kai o logos poy egine...kai theto to erothma apo ayth thn apopsi pio einai to kalytero desktop gia kapoion me P3 sta 500Mhz , 128 MB RAM , 10GB hdd 1. mi stelneis html mails ------------------------- 2. ontos prepei na eisai o ligotero empeiros se themata linux oson afora ta desktop (afou les oti to gnome einai windows like, eno an kati einai windows look[1] like einai o KDE) 3. H apantisi stin erotisi sou einai IceWM kai meta KDE (gamoto, de mou aresei pou to leo) gia to mixanima sou. Enoeitai kai oloi oi mikroteroi (twm, fvwm...) 8a paiksoun mia xara [1] den einai kako na einai windows (look)[2] like kati [2] Mia xara einai to look ton windows, an kai kapos kseperasmeno [3] prosekse ti diafora tou ``windows like'' me to ``windows look like'' -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 18:39:25 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:39:25 +0300 Subject: Linux vs BSD References: Message-ID: <3B93A42D.6000606@yahoo.com> GEORGE MAMAKIS wrote: > kathoti o ligotero empeiros se themata linux oson afora ta desktop > thelo na anafero ayta poy exo parathrhsei sto pc moy : > > KDE:buggy kai vary alla poly voliko > > GNOME:buggy kai poly windowz-like > > twm:pote den katalaba thn xrhsh toyopos kai ton allon wm > > terminal:isos to pio boliko an kai den einai desktop > > sto myalo omos moy hrthe to IF kai o logos poy egine...kai theto to > erothma apo ayth thn apopsi pio einai to kalytero desktop gia kapoion > me P3 sta 500Mhz , 128 MB RAM , 10GB hdd > Re paidia mhpws eimaste ligo ypervolikoi ? Buggy ta KDE & Gnome ? Dhladh ta windows pou apo thn ekdosh 1.0 einai *alpha* software ti na lene :) Kai ta 2 einai ligo varia (eidika an valeis Nautilus klp. sto Gnome...) alla to mhxanhma sou einai mia xara kai 8a kaneis apsoga kai grhgora th douleia me olous tous wm. An 8eleis th gnwmh vale alla 128 mb ram me elaxista xrhmata (kane kai kana overclock me FSB 133 :) kai tre3e oti sou aresei perissotero afou ola panw-katw thn idia douleia kanoun kai einai pleon 8ema goustou kai "8rhskeias" P.S. : Dokimase kai WindowMaker kalou kakou :) Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From neonakis at aislino.dei.gr Mon Sep 3 21:12:27 2001 From: neonakis at aislino.dei.gr (E.A.Neonakis (PPC Linoperamata Power Station)) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:12:27 +0300 Subject: Install Fest =?ISO-8859-7?Q?=EA=E1=E9?= Mandrake References: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> <20010903143752.42bb4dbe.papas@wise.gr> <3B938EEA.1090304@yahoo.com> <20010903203140.49fa96dc.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3B93C80B.7090104@aislino.dei.gr> Εστω και με μεγάλη καθυστέρηση εγκατέστησα το Mandrake που είχατε μοιράσει στο Installfest του καλοκαιριού. Οφείλω να πώ ότι από απόψεως εγκαταστάσεως ήτανε μια πολύ ευχάριστη έκπληξη σε σχέση με το SuSE που χρησιμοποιούσα ως τώρα. Παρ' ότι το εγκατέστησα σε Η/Υ IBM (και ξέρετε τι σημαίνει αυτό) ανακάλυψε σωστά όλον τον εξοπλισμό με εξαίρεση την κάρτα ήχου, έστησε σωστά τα X-Windows και βρήκε μόνο του τον σωστό driver για την κάρτα γραφικών S3 Trio3D που με ταλαιπώρησε για 3 μέρες με το SuSE χωρίς επιτυχία. Και ο Konqueror δείχνει σωστά ακόμη και τις σελίδες της Eurobank, κάτι που ακόμη δεν καταφέρνει το Netscape 6.1. Συγχαρητήρια σε όλους σας. Κι αν μπορείτε πέστε μου πως αλλάζουμε στο Ελληνικό πληκτρολόγιο, αυτό δεν μπόρεσα να το βρώ. From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Sep 3 23:13:20 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:13:20 +0300 Subject: Install Fest =?iso-8859-7?q?=EA=E1=E9?= Mandrake In-Reply-To: <3B93C80B.7090104@aislino.dei.gr> References: <01090303495201.01869@terminus> <20010903203140.49fa96dc.papas@wise.gr> <3B93C80B.7090104@aislino.dei.gr> Message-ID: <01090323132000.00299@terminus> On Monday 03 September 2001 21:12, E.A.Neonakis (PPC Linoperamata Power Station) wrote: > > ανακάλυψε σωστά όλον τον εξοπλισμό με εξαίρεση την > κάρτα ήχου H alh8eia einai oti oi standard instalations spaniws egka8hstoun swsta thn karta hxou me th mia. Kai milame gia koinotates sound blasters? 3erei kaneis pou ofeiletai auto? Giati megales etairies dianomeis den mporoun na ftia3oun automata thn karta hxou? Apo thn allh, to na mh sou douleuei kati einai aformh gia na arxiseis na thn yaxneis, ki etsi ma8aineis polla. From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Tue Sep 4 12:38:57 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:38:57 +0300 Subject: Linuxas einai... (2) Message-ID: <01090412385700.00135@black> Hi paides, Ti einai linuxas? Kalh erwthsh, den to eixa skeftei pote etsi to zhthma. Loipon nomizw oti einai aytos pou : (h seira einai tyxaia kai den shmainei oti prwta eisai to 1 kai meta to 2) 1. 3erei na xhrizetai to Gnu/Linux 2. Otan 8elei na kanei kati sto mhxanakh tou ( p.x. na sthsei to control ths tv-tuner) 3erei poy na psa3ei kai kyriotero *pws* na psa3ei etsi wste na lysei to problhma toy. Symperilambanei kai to pws na mhlisei stous ypoloipous linuxades. 3. Einai admin tou mhxanhmatos toy. O admin san eppagelma den einai kata anagkh linuxas, an kai tis perissoteres fores einai logo trelas pou koubala :) 4. Einai enhmeromenos gia ta gegonota alla 3erei kai thn istoria tou Gnu/Linux kai tou open source. 5. Voh8a toys ypoloipoys. Ayto einai poly geniko alla me ligh koinh logikh mporei na orio8eth8ei. Gi aparadeigma ytos pou rwta pws na synde8w sto internet, profanws den 3odepse oute lepto gia to 2. 6. Oloi h zwh tou sthrizetai sthn filosofia toy open source. Blepe mail tou vaggeli gia perissoteres plhrofories. Den mporw na skeftw akti allo ayth thn stigmh alla pisteyw oti ayta mazi me ayta pou eipe o vaggelis arxizoun ligaki na skiagrafoun to linuxa. Fysika tipota apo ola ayta den einai apolyta, kai diathrw to dikaiwma na ana8ewrhsw kati apo ta parapanw. An mou er8ei tipota allo 8a to pw:) Lefteris From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Tue Sep 4 15:13:01 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:13:01 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Linuxas einai... In-Reply-To: <20010903203140.49fa96dc.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: >ego as poume vrisko ti bjork fo-ve-ra sexy, alla eimai sigouros oti kaneis allos de simfonei mazi mou :[ Kai egw to idio, idiaitera me to kitrino foremataki sto "It's oh so quiet"... From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Sep 6 13:41:36 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:41:36 +0300 Subject: Moody Python - To pio asteio asteio In-Reply-To: <01090412385700.00135@black> References: <01090412385700.00135@black> Message-ID: <200109061038.NAA29302@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Oi fanatikoi tha thimuntai apekso ena apo ta kalitera ton Moody Pythons. Oi loipoi as koitaksun edo : http://www.montypython.net/scripts/funniest.php Distixos gia logus pou osoi kserun katalavenun DEN mporo na grapso to anekdoto Alla gia mia epistimoniki analisi koitakste edo: http://www.nature.com/nsu/010906/010906-17.html From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Sep 6 16:42:36 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:42:36 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery Message-ID: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> TA WINDOWS 2000 MU ALLAKSAN TA FOTA STA PARTITIONS MOY... %^*&^*&(^*)(&^%(*&%(&*$*&(*&@@@@@@$#^$#&::":L*(&() Eixa ena DOS partition pu den to evlepe. Trexo to diskmanager kanei ena oraio reboot ke papala olo to partition table. To enoxo partition simiothike os PRIMARY! me apotelesma to gpart na min vriskei to extended Linux. Omoia ta paizei ke to testdisk. To Partition Magic 5.0. pairnei ton pulo. Katafera telika na anaktiso kapoia Windows Partitions alla me lathi. Kala mu paidia fovu tus danaus ke dora ferontes. Makria apo ta parathira tu satana. Tha zitaga kamoia gnomi, alla vovame mipos sas paraseiro sto vurko tis amartias. ke gia na min ksexniomaste KAI STA 2000 LEME OI -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Thu Sep 6 16:41:44 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:41:44 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery In-Reply-To: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <01090616532100.00778@Lato> den pai kero s thimame itan prin 4 mines .... otan o kakomiris ipa na dokimaso ta XP (beta) . ta egathisto ola ore ....sto proto miso tou sklirou mou ... sto proto partition ... o ipolipos skliros ixe to linuxaki mou ..... afou ta dokiamasa ta xp paratirisa oti ixa provlima simvatotitas me kati programata pou mou xriazontousan gia na kano kati ergasies ...... e lipon apofasisa na mpo tote sto linux ke an adiaso to proto partition tou sklirou gia na ksanagrapso ta 98 .... MATEA!!!!!!!!!!! pao na kano egatastasi .. ke egatastasi den ginotane ......fortone mia malakia sto mbr ..... ti na kano o kakomiris ...... fonazo ton Ko Konstantino Ioani Pavlidi (mporo na po oti ta ixa dokimase sxedon ta panta ..... ke ixa ftasi se poli apelpistiki katastasi ) ... erxete o konstantinos .... to dokimazi to ena ... dokiamzi to allo ..... telika katafernoume na tou kanoume format ..... vazoume ke to partition magik kitazoume tin xoritikotita tou protou partition ...4 GB elege .... eno itan 8 ...... mpenoume sto linux pirazouem me to fdisk ta partition .... mouni ta kaname ..... den ixa meta oute linux ...... ti na po ... ego eklega tin mira mou ....pane ta 983492387 mp3 mou ...... ta 29873927283 programata gia to linux pou ixa katevasi ...... eftixos omos ..sosame tin ptixiaki mou ..... (pali kali giati alios tha ixa aftoktonisi ) telika .. i skliros episkevastika ..... ke opos ipe o giatros konstadinos gia agnosti mexri tora etia .kapios ... kapou ..... kapos ...esvise tin eprom tou diskou me apotelesma na lei ala ntalon ke estis na min eoxume ta aparetitia GB pou thelame ..... ti na po ...... WINDOWS ... apo tote ... win98 gia kanena pexnidaki ke ta ipolipa linuxaki ...... From ace at irc.gr Thu Sep 6 16:58:59 2001 From: ace at irc.gr (Sofos Haris) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:58:59 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <000501c136dc$1a049ee0$e5edfea9@cobraiii> to pm einai sthn ekdosh 7 twra kai sthn 6 apo thn 5 exw dei shmantikes diafores :) From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Sep 6 22:17:29 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:17:29 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery In-Reply-To: <000501c136dc$1a049ee0$e5edfea9@cobraiii> References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <000501c136dc$1a049ee0$e5edfea9@cobraiii> Message-ID: <200109061914.WAA32121@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Thu 06 Sep 2001 16:58, Sofos Haris wrote: > to pm einai sthn ekdosh 7 twra kai sthn 6 apo thn 5 exw dei shmantikes > diafores :) Ena URL kale mu kirie, exo 3 partition na threpso -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From ace at irc.gr Thu Sep 6 22:40:11 2001 From: ace at irc.gr (Sofos Haris) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:40:11 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <000501c136dc$1a049ee0$e5edfea9@cobraiii> <200109061914.WAA32121@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <000e01c1370b$c6458fa0$e5edfea9@cobraiii> > Ena URL kale mu kirie, exo 3 partition na threpso http://fosi.ussr.to h http://kickme.to/FOSI einai enhmeromenos o kurios an kai exei elaxista ola omws einai arketa kala Xarhs From vrahnos at trance.gr Fri Sep 7 09:53:01 2001 From: vrahnos at trance.gr (George Vrahnakis) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:53:01 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <01090616532100.00778@Lato> Message-ID: <001101c13769$c10c7f40$41abdbc2@med> sorry paidia alla den mporo na mhn thn po kaigo kai as katigoriso to linux (gb htan afta pou exasa) exoume kai leme. enas skliros 6.4, ta 3 htan gia linux (+100 swap) kai ta ypolipa 3.3 ena fat partition me mp3 kai alla diafora (xoris windows, to fat to eixa se periptosh pou exona ton skliro se allo box na eixa prosvasi sta mp3, cause elaxistoi gnostoi mou exoun boxes me linux ) kapia stigmh arxiza na pezo paixnidakia kaigo (unreal tournament) kai afou efaga ths pouta*** ta lefta se net-cafe olo to kalokairi pezontas sto lan apofasisa na valo windows na glitono ta fragka tou netcafe... pao na kano egkatastasi sto fat partition pou eixa afisei, @@ petouse kati errors gia to filesystem oute kaigo 8imame ti elege, ta perno kano format sto partition, pao na ksanakanw, ta idia!! perno ton skliro ton pao se filou mou to box gia na ton ftiakso me to partition magic, ton vazo, molis to anoigo arxizei ta errors pali (afto evgaze ena error pou legete BADMBR) ype8esa oti eftege to master boot record, to svino, pali ta idia! apo to partition magic na mhn fenete kanena partition, apo windows na mhn fenete to fat, alla apo linux na ta vlepei ola. anyway to 8ema einai oti ginotan ths pouta*** kai afto epeidh "kapos" mou pidi*** ton skliro to linux... meta apo 2-3 paketa tsigara 8imi8ika oti yparxei to low level format kai xarika :> tespa ego den prokite na ksana kanw mix me linux kai windows kai ext2 me fat, linux 8a ksanadei to pc otan paro 2o skliro!! aloha ----- Original Message ----- From: Georgios Maravelias To: Tsagatakis Giannis ; Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Partition Recovery > > > den pai kero s thimame itan prin 4 mines .... otan o kakomiris ipa na > dokimaso ta XP (beta) . ta egathisto ola ore ....sto proto miso tou sklirou > mou ... sto proto partition ... o ipolipos skliros ixe to linuxaki mou ..... > afou ta dokiamasa ta xp paratirisa oti ixa provlima simvatotitas me kati > programata pou mou xriazontousan gia na kano kati ergasies ...... > e lipon apofasisa na mpo tote sto linux ke an adiaso to proto partition tou > sklirou gia na ksanagrapso ta 98 .... > > MATEA!!!!!!!!!!! > > pao na kano egatastasi .. ke egatastasi den ginotane ......fortone mia malakia > sto mbr ..... > > ti na kano o kakomiris ...... fonazo ton Ko Konstantino Ioani Pavlidi (mporo na > po oti ta ixa dokimase sxedon ta panta ..... ke ixa ftasi se poli apelpistiki > katastasi ) ... erxete o konstantinos .... to dokimazi to ena ... > dokiamzi to allo ..... > telika katafernoume na tou kanoume format ..... > vazoume ke to partition magik > kitazoume tin xoritikotita tou protou partition ...4 GB elege .... > eno itan 8 ...... > mpenoume sto linux pirazouem me to fdisk ta partition .... > > mouni ta kaname ..... den ixa meta oute linux ...... > > ti na po ... ego eklega tin mira mou ....pane ta 983492387 mp3 mou ...... ta > 29873927283 programata gia to linux pou ixa katevasi ...... > eftixos omos ..sosame tin ptixiaki mou ..... (pali kali giati alios tha ixa > aftoktonisi ) > > telika .. i skliros episkevastika ..... ke opos ipe o giatros konstadinos gia > agnosti mexri tora etia .kapios ... kapou ..... kapos ...esvise tin eprom tou > diskou me apotelesma na lei ala ntalon ke estis na min eoxume ta aparetitia GB > pou thelame ..... > > ti na po ...... > > WINDOWS ... > > > apo tote ... win98 gia kanena pexnidaki ke ta ipolipa linuxaki ...... > From gabriel at stsnet.gr Fri Sep 7 11:21:31 2001 From: gabriel at stsnet.gr (Gabriel Tzagkarakis) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:21:31 +0300 Subject: Partition Recovery References: <200109061339.QAA30112@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <3B98838B.4000402@stsnet.gr> hello ppl, giannh dokimases me ton parted ? ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted gamei kai dernei :> good luck Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > TA WINDOWS 2000 MU ALLAKSAN TA FOTA STA PARTITIONS MOY... > %^*&^*&(^*)(&^%(*&%(&*$*&(*&@@@@@@$#^$#&::":L*(&() > > Eixa ena DOS partition pu den to evlepe. Trexo to diskmanager kanei ena oraio > reboot ke papala olo to partition table. To enoxo partition simiothike os > PRIMARY! me apotelesma to gpart na min vriskei to extended Linux. Omoia ta > paizei ke to testdisk. To Partition Magic 5.0. pairnei ton pulo. > > Katafera telika na anaktiso kapoia Windows Partitions alla me lathi. > > Kala mu paidia fovu tus danaus ke dora ferontes. Makria apo ta parathira tu > satana. > > Tha zitaga kamoia gnomi, alla vovame mipos sas paraseiro sto vurko tis > amartias. > > ke gia na min ksexniomaste > KAI STA 2000 LEME OI > > -=Gabriel=- From babis31 at linux.gr Sat Sep 8 05:30:06 2001 From: babis31 at linux.gr (Fragiadakis Xaralampos) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 05:30:06 +0300 Subject: Ligo help Message-ID: Lipon Pedia Thelo Ligia Voi8ia Lipon Exo 2 Mixanimata sto 1 pou exo to modem etc trexo win2k kai sto alo Slack 7,1 Auta Lipon ta 2 mixanimata sindeode me kartes diktiou. Auto pou thelo na kano einai na mporo na bo net kai apo to mixanima pou trexei to slack... Ekana merikes prospathies me to netconfig alla den katafera tpt. To mixanima me ta Win2k Trexei kai Wingate gia na mpori na bi to alo.. to error pou mou bgazi einai auto babis31 at dark:~$ nslookup nana.irc.gr *** Can't find server name for address 10.10.1.1: No information *** Default servers are not available babis31 at dark:~$ Ti Na kanw gia na peksi to diktio?????? Opios kseri pls Na mou pi ti na kanw kai POS -- To box me ta win 2k exei ip 10.10.1.1 kai tou exo dosi onoma talos TO box me to slack exei ip 10.10.1.3 kai tou exo dosi to onoma dark Oti ali aporia h stixio thelete pite mou!!!!!!!!!!! mou ipa pos prepi na kano ip masquarage kai kapios alos pos prepi na stiso named... -- From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Sat Sep 8 12:04:16 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 12:04:16 +0300 Subject: dite afto ......WinXP: an OS for Linux lovers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01090812051300.00751@Lato> http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2810906,00.html From gabriel at stsnet.gr Mon Sep 10 12:02:51 2001 From: gabriel at stsnet.gr (Gabriel Tzagkarakis) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:02:51 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Ligo help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Fragiadakis Xaralampos wrote: > Lipon Pedia > Thelo Ligia Voi8ia > Lipon Exo 2 Mixanimata > sto 1 pou exo to modem etc trexo win2k kai sto alo Slack 7,1 > Auta Lipon ta 2 mixanimata sindeode me kartes diktiou. > Auto pou thelo na kano einai na mporo na bo net kai apo to mixanima > pou trexei to slack... > Ekana merikes prospathies me to netconfig alla den katafera tpt. > To mixanima me ta Win2k Trexei kai Wingate gia na mpori na bi to alo.. > to error pou mou bgazi einai auto > babis31 at dark:~$ nslookup nana.irc.gr > *** Can't find server name for address 10.10.1.1: No information > *** Default servers are not available > babis31 at dark:~$ > > Ti Na kanw gia na peksi to diktio?????? > Opios kseri pls Na mou pi ti na kanw kai POS 1) bale to modem sto linuxi sou 2) set it up (pppsetup sto slack) 3) bale mia duo ip's apo ton dns tou isp sou sto resolv.conf sou 4) bale sto /etc/hosts entries kai gia ta duo mhxanakia sou 5) echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.10.1.0/24 -d 0/0 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE gia 2.4.X kernel alliws ipchains -A forward -s 10.10.1.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ gia 2.2.X 6) bazeis default gateway thn ip tou linux sto win2k box kai ena dns tou isp sou kai telos > > -- > To box me ta win 2k exei ip 10.10.1.1 kai tou exo dosi onoma talos > TO box me to slack exei ip 10.10.1.3 kai tou exo dosi to onoma dark > Oti ali aporia h stixio thelete pite mou!!!!!!!!!!! > mou ipa pos prepi na kano ip masquarage kai kapios alos pos > prepi na stiso named... > -- > good luck :) -=Gabriel=- From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Sep 10 17:32:22 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:32:22 +0300 Subject: [csdlista] FreeBSD Daemon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01091017322201.00622@terminus> http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/userfriendly.html From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Tue Sep 11 13:27:06 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:27:06 +0300 Subject: Big Brother Message-ID: <01091113270601.00160@darkstar> Kalhmera, ayto den exei 3anaginei!!! Gia na deis apo to internet to big brother prepei na eisai me dial up ths hellas on line. Epeidh dhladh den einai syndromhtiko to kanalh ( o ant1) eipan na kanoun "syndromhtiko" to internet. Ti allo 8a doyme!!! Lefteris From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Sep 11 13:47:29 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:47:29 +0300 Subject: ax vax liXm klaPas References: <01090812051300.00751@Lato> Message-ID: <005001c13aaf$28390d80$3700a8c0@iworx.gr> Αγαπητά μου παιδιά, διαβάστε το παραπάνω μήνυμα προσεχτικά θα σώσει την ψυχή σας. Στείλτε το σε άλλα δέκα άτομα, να μάθουν και αυτοί. Ο Χρήστος που το έκανε κέρδισε ένα εκκατομύριο στο ξυστό. Η Σοφιά κέρδισε στο ποιός θέλει να γίνει εκατομυριούχος. Ο Πάνος είδε επιτέλους χαρά στα σκέλια του. Ο Νίκος που δεν το έστηλε τράκαρε το αμάξι του. Λοιπόν θυμάστε που μου γ..αν το δίσκο τα W...2..0. Είπα (ο αθεόφοβος) μιας και στήνω το μηχάνακι απο την αρχή να βάλω τα W...XP να τα δώ ο ξενέρας, μιας και (νόμιζα πως) ε δεν τρέχει τίποτα αν είναι μάπα τα βγάζω, έτσι και αλλιώς δεν είχα τίποτα στον γ..ο δίσκο. Εντύπωση πρώτη όμορφο παιγνιδίαρικο interface. Εντύπωση δεύτερη μπιπ-black-boot. Για κάποιο λόγο τα W...0 και τα W...P όποτε τους κ..σει κάνου rebbot. Το μηχανάκι είναι καινούργιο και τα μόνα παράξενα που έχει είναι ένα TV tuner και ένα ασύρματο ποντίκι. Λέω δεν γ... θα βάλω πάλι τα W...98se (τι τραβάω ο καημένος για τα παιγνιδία) οπότε πάω να κάνω boot να βάλω πάλι το LILO. Το λοιπόν: ο Boot disk χτυπημένο. ο Βάζω το CD του Suse -> Invalid boot device o Βάζω το CD του Redhat -> τα απίδια μου (απίδι ωόστιμο φρούτο) ο Τσεκάρω τα Partitions (όλλα ετάξει, τα data εντάξει, αναστεναγμός εκ βάθους καρδίας) o Βάζω το CD του Mandrake -> αγγούρια (χρήσιμα για την σαλάτα) ο Ξεκινώ αναβάθμιση απο το CD του Mandrake... Νομίζετε οτι το πράγμα έληξε έτσι απλά (Ναι; κρίμα χάσατε...), με το που φτάνει στο select partition -> NO SUCH DEVICE /DEV/HDA !!! Βλέπω στο fdisk ένα partition το /dev/hda1 με τύπο HPFS. Το έσβησα και όλλα πήγαν καλά. ΚΑΤΑΓΓΕΛΩ την κοινότητα του LINUX για αθέμητο ανταγωνισμό απέναντι στις σοβαρές εταιρείες του χώρου. Γιατί κύριοι ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΔΥΝΑΤΟΝ να υποχρεώνεται τον χρήστη να μην μπορεί να βάλει στον υπολογιστή του οτι λειτουργικό χρησιμοποιεί. --- Τσαγκατάκης Γιάννης Χαππυ Μικροσοφτ Ούσερ. From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Sep 11 15:09:33 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:09:33 +0300 Subject: Big Brother In-Reply-To: <01091113270601.00160@darkstar> References: <01091113270601.00160@darkstar> Message-ID: <200109111205.PAA02778@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Tue 11 Sep 2001 13:27, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > Kalhmera, > > ayto den exei 3anaginei!!! Gia na deis apo to internet to big brother > prepei na eisai me dial up ths hellas on line. Epeidh dhladh den einai > syndromhtiko to kanalh ( o ant1) eipan na kanoun "syndromhtiko" to > internet. Ti allo 8a doyme!!! > > Lefteris www.bigsister.gr -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From sbolis at freemail.gr Wed Sep 12 09:27:11 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:27:11 +0300 Subject: Big Brother In-Reply-To: <01091113270601.00160@darkstar> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010912092358.00a2eec0@delphi.gunet.gr> At 01:27 ?? 11/9/2001, you wrote: >Kalhmera, > >ayto den exei 3anaginei!!! Gia na deis apo to internet to big brother prepei >na eisai me dial up ths hellas on line. Epeidh dhladh den einai syndromhtiko >to kanalh ( o ant1) eipan na kanoun "syndromhtiko" to internet. Ti allo 8a >doyme!!! Ma einai profanes.. to kanali kanei broadcast ("multicast" ?) kai den toys kostizei dekara na blepoyn kai ekatomyria atoma parapanw enw an bainei o kathenas apo e3w apo to diktyo toys kai toys trwei apo 2-3 k/sec (apo thn hellasonline) tote de tha meinei tipota gia aytoys. antitheta oi apo mesa (dialup) den toys kostizoyn tipota se e3wtwriko "sklhro" bandwith oso gia to bigsister.gr... exei emplakei mesa o Moystakas kai tha satirizoyn osa ginontai sto original BB den 3erw an to leei, to eida diagwnia, alla kati diabasa se efhmerida. kalhmera, Spiros D. Bolis From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Wed Sep 12 12:38:57 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:38:57 +0300 Subject: Big Brother In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010912092358.00a2eec0@delphi.gunet.gr> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010912092358.00a2eec0@delphi.gunet.gr> Message-ID: <01091212385701.00160@darkstar> On Wednesday 12 September 2001 09:27, Spiros Bolis wrote: > At 01:27 ?? 11/9/2001, you wrote: > >Kalhmera, > > > >ayto den exei 3anaginei!!! Gia na deis apo to internet to big brother > > prepei na eisai me dial up ths hellas on line. Epeidh dhladh den einai > > syndromhtiko to kanalh ( o ant1) eipan na kanoun "syndromhtiko" to > > internet. Ti allo 8a doyme!!! > > Ma einai profanes.. > to kanali kanei broadcast ("multicast" ?) kai den toys kostizei dekara na > blepoyn kai ekatomyria atoma parapanw enw an bainei o kathenas apo e3w apo > to diktyo toys kai toys trwei apo 2-3 k/sec (apo thn hellasonline) tote de > tha meinei tipota gia aytoys. antitheta oi apo mesa (dialup) den toys > kostizoyn tipota se e3wtwriko "sklhro" bandwith To skeftika oti kati tetoio paizei:) Ayto deixnei oti sthn Ellada akoma den exoume thn ypodomh (to bandwith) gia na ante3ei ena broadcast 23 wres to 24wro. Lefteris > > oso gia to bigsister.gr... exei emplakei mesa o Moystakas kai tha > satirizoyn osa ginontai sto original BB > den 3erw an to leei, to eida diagwnia, alla kati diabasa se efhmerida. > > kalhmera, > > > > Spiros D. Bolis From papas at wise.gr Thu Sep 13 00:41:39 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:41:39 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) Message-ID: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. Afti ti stigmi vrisketai akoma sto PE.PA.G.N.H., alla idi pezei me to laptop tou mpampa tou kai stenaxorietai poli pou den tou dinoun eksoteriki grami tilefonou gia na sas xairetisei. Ase pou einai apasxolimenos grafontas drivers gia to softmodem pou exei o kolo-foritos tou patera tou... to email tou einai papasjunior at wise.gr, gia opoion 8elei na tou steilei mail. tafta... emeis pantos eimaste sto 1o ktirio, ston 1o orofo, sto domatio 44 gia aftous pou endiaferontai Polla filia, vagos father. From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 01:29:19 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:29:19 +0300 Subject: Congratulations [was Re: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr)] References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <3B9FE1BF.8080906@yahoo.com> Sygxarhthria gia to diadoxo kai 3ereis ta zipounakia me tux einai hot ayti thn periodo... Manwlis Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: >Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG >proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. > >To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 >septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. > >Afti ti stigmi vrisketai akoma sto PE.PA.G.N.H., alla idi pezei me to laptop >tou mpampa tou kai stenaxorietai poli pou den tou dinoun eksoteriki grami >tilefonou gia na sas xairetisei. Ase pou einai apasxolimenos grafontas >drivers gia to softmodem pou exei o kolo-foritos tou patera tou... > >to email tou einai papasjunior at wise.gr, gia opoion 8elei na tou steilei >mail. > >tafta... emeis pantos eimaste sto 1o ktirio, ston 1o orofo, sto domatio 44 >gia aftous pou endiaferontai > >Polla filia, >vagos father. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From konstantinos at iworx.gr Thu Sep 13 10:22:01 2001 From: konstantinos at iworx.gr (Konstantinos-Ioannis Pavlides) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:22:01 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <002701c13c24$cbb069b0$0d00a8c0@universe> Vago father, tha perasoume na se doume na sou poume ta sigharitiria apo konta.. Tha fero kai douleia ston junior, exo ena device pou den mou paizei kato apo linux, kai thelo na vrei akri o paixtis.. :)))) See ya there, kai na prosexete ta aeroplana!!!!! Konstantinos-Ioannis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" To: Cc: "Nick Apostolakis" ; "Carlos Koulatsi" ; "hazard" ; Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:41 AM Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior at wise.gr) > Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG > proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. > > To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 > septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. > > Afti ti stigmi vrisketai akoma sto PE.PA.G.N.H., alla idi pezei me to laptop > tou mpampa tou kai stenaxorietai poli pou den tou dinoun eksoteriki grami > tilefonou gia na sas xairetisei. Ase pou einai apasxolimenos grafontas > drivers gia to softmodem pou exei o kolo-foritos tou patera tou... > > to email tou einai papasjunior at wise.gr, gia opoion 8elei na tou steilei > mail. > > tafta... emeis pantos eimaste sto 1o ktirio, ston 1o orofo, sto domatio 44 > gia aftous pou endiaferontai > > Polla filia, > vagos father. > > > From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Sep 13 11:18:08 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:18:08 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG > proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. > > To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 > septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. > Na soy zhsei.. Eyxes kai sthn 3enia.. Kathe kalo, Spiros D. Bolis From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Sep 13 12:53:32 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:53:32 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <001201c13c39$f3331c20$0c083493@hp> > To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 > septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. O mikroteros linuxas pagkosmios.Apsogo. > Afti ti stigmi vrisketai akoma sto PE.PA.G.N.H., alla idi pezei me to laptop > tou mpampa tou kai stenaxorietai poli pou den tou dinoun eksoteriki grami > tilefonou gia na sas xairetisei. Ase pou einai apasxolimenos grafontas > drivers gia to softmodem pou exei o kolo-foritos tou patera tou... Kala re atheofove den tou pires ena exoteriko modem na kanei tin douleia tou?Ti soi mpampas eisai? > to email tou einai papasjunior at wise.gr, gia opoion 8elei na tou steilei > mail. Na ton grapso kai stin lista? ;-) > tafta... emeis pantos eimaste sto 1o ktirio, ston 1o orofo, sto domatio 44 > gia aftous pou endiaferontai Na sas zisei re. > Polla filia, > vagos father. Xazompampas diladi e?Kali fasi. Nikos From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Sep 13 14:01:55 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:01:55 +0300 Subject: Herlug post from fuabap@hotmail.com requires approval (fwd) Message-ID: Deite to reason... Einai trellos aytos o mailman ;-) Spiros D. Bolis ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:10:01 +0300 From: herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr To: herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr Subject: Herlug post from fuabap at hotmail.com requires approval As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: Herlug at lists.hellug.gr From: fuabap at hotmail.com Subject: Re: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior at wise.gr) Reason: Message has a suspicious header At your convenience, visit: http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/admindb/herlug to approve or deny the request. From fuabap at hotmail.com Thu Sep 13 13:09:46 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:09:46 +0000 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Thu Sep 13 15:46:25 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:46:25 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <3BA0AAA1.DC3ED215@phaistosnetworks.gr> Na sou zhsei baggeli kai na eytuxisei :) kai na mhn perioristei sto linux na ma0ei ola ta sobara unix :) -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Sep 13 15:54:28 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:54:28 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <3BA0AAA1.DC3ED215@phaistosnetworks.gr> References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> <3BA0AAA1.DC3ED215@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: <01091315542801.00383@terminus> On Thursday 13 September 2001 15:46, Kissandrakis S. George wrote: > Na sou zhsei baggeli kai na eytuxisei :) > kai na mhn perioristei sto linux na ma0ei ola ta sobara unix :) Egw euxomai na mhna sxolh8ei ka8olou me Linux. Tou euxomai na zhsei mia eutuxismenh zwh xwris computers... From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Sep 13 14:32:38 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:32:38 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: <200109131306.QAA00351@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Thu 13 Sep 2001 00:41, you wrote: Angu agu gnu gnu agu Xaireto to neo melos tis listas. Na su zisei. Prosoxi: 1. Mpoorei na arxisei na paizei Playstation 2. Mporei na tu aresei to Microsoft BOB. 3. Mporei akoma ta tu aresun ta paignidiarika XP 4. Mporei akoma mi xeirotera na valei BSD !! AGU AGU GNU GNU AGU Xairetismus stin Ksenia. tha peraso gia kanena puraki. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Thu Sep 13 15:57:42 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:57:42 +0300 (EEST) Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: >Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG >proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. > >To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 >septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. :-)))))))) Na sas zhsei!!!! Na grapsei kapote kwdika ston Kernel! Cool!!!!! Xronia Polla!!!! From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Thu Sep 13 20:56:33 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:56:33 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <200109131306.QAA00351@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> <200109131306.QAA00351@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <01091320590300.01522@Lato> na sou zisi o mikros vageli...... mono na prosexis esi ke oxi o mikros .... mpori o xazompapas apo tin trela tou na alaksi gousta ke na vlepi pleon windows....... ;-) filika Georgios Maravelias From jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr Fri Sep 14 10:11:57 2001 From: jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr (=?X-UNKNOWN?B?w+nc7e3n8iDD5fnx4+Hr3vI=?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:11:57 +0300 (EEST) Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: Vageli na sou zhsei ... Pote 8a ton fereis sto siga siga gia rakes ? ... prepei na synh8izei apo tora :) From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Sep 14 20:49:29 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:49:29 +0300 Subject: Saxtoyros o megas Message-ID: <01091420492901.00160@darkstar> Thelw (fanera sygkhnhmenos) na eyxh8w ston filo kai symfoithth Saxtoyrh Stayro xronia polla kai oti epi8ymei, ka8ws shmera giortazei! Edw 8a h8ela na ple3w to egkomio tou Stayrou toy Saxtoyroy. O an8rwpos pou genh8hke (den 3erw) einai oti kalhtero egine sthn pagkosmia skhnh twn mail-list. Ena deigma ayths ths ikanothtas tou (na grafei apsoga mail) einai h diafhmhsh pou exei ginei sthn herlug, afou oloi diabazoun ta mail ths herlug gia na doun ti eipe o saxtouris. Apodei3ei einai to baza.source.gr poy filo3enei kai ta dyo mail toy Stayrou gia thn psefdasfalish kai to ti einai linuxas. Kai pali xronia polla kai kalh synexeia file Stayro! Lefteris From bogart at csd.uoc.gr Fri Sep 14 21:35:58 2001 From: bogart at csd.uoc.gr (Artemios G. Voyiatzis) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:35:58 +0300 Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior@wise.gr) In-Reply-To: <002501c13bd3$bbe57580$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: Geia xara, Polles euxes kai sygxaritiria gia to diadoxo ! :-) Na sas zisei, na ton kamarwsete opws epithymeite ! O aswtos yios tis listas, Artemis. > -----Original Message----- > From: herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr > [mailto:herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr]On Behalf Of Papadogiannakis > Vagelis > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:42 AM > To: herlug at lists.hellug.gr > Cc: Nick Apostolakis; Carlos Koulatsi; hazard; evris at source.gr > Subject: neos linuxas stin HERLUG (papasjunior at wise.gr) > > > Kirioi, me megali mou xara sas anakoinono oti stin parea tou HERLUG > proste8ike enas akoma linuxas. > > To onoma tou (8a) einai Petros Papadogiannakis, kai genithike stis 12 > septembriou 2001, stis 03:15 ta ksimeromata. > > Afti ti stigmi vrisketai akoma sto PE.PA.G.N.H., alla idi pezei me to laptop > tou mpampa tou kai stenaxorietai poli pou den tou dinoun eksoteriki grami > tilefonou gia na sas xairetisei. Ase pou einai apasxolimenos grafontas > drivers gia to softmodem pou exei o kolo-foritos tou patera tou... > > to email tou einai papasjunior at wise.gr, gia opoion 8elei na tou steilei > mail. > > tafta... emeis pantos eimaste sto 1o ktirio, ston 1o orofo, sto domatio 44 > gia aftous pou endiaferontai > > Polla filia, > vagos father. > > > From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Sep 14 21:50:22 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:50:22 +0300 Subject: MPA (was Re: Saxtoyros o megas) In-Reply-To: <01091420492901.00160@darkstar> References: <01091420492901.00160@darkstar> Message-ID: <200109141846.VAA07461@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Fri 14 Sep 2001 20:49, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > Thelw (fanera sygkhnhmenos) na eyxh8w ston filo kai symfoithth Saxtoyrh > Stayro xronia polla kai oti epi8ymei, ka8ws shmera giortazei! > > Edw 8a h8ela na ple3w to egkomio tou Stayrou toy Saxtoyroy. > > O an8rwpos pou genh8hke (den 3erw) einai oti kalhtero egine sthn pagkosmia > skhnh twn mail-list. Ena deigma ayths ths ikanothtas tou (na grafei apsoga > mail) einai h diafhmhsh pou exei ginei sthn herlug, afou oloi diabazoun ta > mail ths herlug gia na doun ti eipe o saxtouris. Apodei3ei einai to > baza.source.gr poy filo3enei kai ta dyo mail toy Stayrou gia thn > psefdasfalish kai to ti einai linuxas. > > Kai pali xronia polla kai kalh synexeia file Stayro! > > Lefteris MPA apla ton valame sto slash baza giati : 1. Den eixame tipote allo na valume 2. Mas to zitise eygenika o Psyxiatros tu Na mas zisei ke na ton xairomaste. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Fri Sep 14 23:52:58 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Osama Bin Laden) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:52:58 +0300 Subject: MPA (was Re: Saxtoyros o megas) References: <01091420492901.00160@darkstar> <200109141846.VAA07461@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <3BA26E2A.650B11F3@csd.uoc.gr> Ma, ap' o,ti 3erw, den einai shmera tou Agiou Osama. Mh sas 3egelaei to yeudonumo mou "Stavros Sahtourhs". Sthn pragmatikothta eimai o Osama Bin Laden, kai den exei, pleon, nohmana krubomai. Katafera auto pou panta h8ela (na gkremisw tous didimou purgous kai na xtuphsw to Pentagwno), ki epipleon ekana th CIA na nomizei oti eimai sto Auganistan, enw, sthnpragmatikotha hmoun (alla oxi pleon) sto Hrakleio. Euxh8hte mou kalh tuxh sthn upoloiph tromokratikh mou kariera kai xarhka pou bre8hka sth lista sas. Osama Bin Laden Tromokraths Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > On Fri 14 Sep 2001 20:49, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > > Thelw (fanera sygkhnhmenos) na eyxh8w ston filo kai symfoithth Saxtoyrh > > Stayro xronia polla kai oti epi8ymei, ka8ws shmera giortazei! > > > > Edw 8a h8ela na ple3w to egkomio tou Stayrou toy Saxtoyroy. > > > > O an8rwpos pou genh8hke (den 3erw) einai oti kalhtero egine sthn pagkosmia > > skhnh twn mail-list. Ena deigma ayths ths ikanothtas tou (na grafei apsoga > > mail) einai h diafhmhsh pou exei ginei sthn herlug, afou oloi diabazoun ta > > mail ths herlug gia na doun ti eipe o saxtouris. Apodei3ei einai to > > baza.source.gr poy filo3enei kai ta dyo mail toy Stayrou gia thn > > psefdasfalish kai to ti einai linuxas. > > > > Kai pali xronia polla kai kalh synexeia file Stayro! > > > > Lefteris > > MPA apla ton valame sto slash baza giati : > 1. Den eixame tipote allo na valume > 2. Mas to zitise eygenika o Psyxiatros tu > > Na mas zisei ke na ton xairomaste. > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! From sbolis at freemail.gr Sat Sep 15 10:01:38 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:01:38 +0300 (EEST) Subject: MPA (was Re: Saxtoyros o megas) In-Reply-To: <3BA26E2A.650B11F3@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Osama Bin Laden wrote: > ki epipleon ekana th CIA na > nomizei oti eimai sto Auganistan, enw, sthnpragmatikotha hmoun (alla oxi > pleon) sto Hrakleio. Euxh8hte mou kalh tuxh sthn upoloiph tromokratikh > kai mas to les KATAMOYTRA? de mas lypasai poy tha fam(t)e sto kefali toses bombes poy to Hrakleio tha katatagei stis katw xwres ? ;-)))) > Osama Bin Laden > Tromokraths Twra 3ereis posa CPu cycles efages me ayto to sign apo to carnivore 'h opws skata to lene ? ;-))))) -- Spiros D. Bolis Y.G. palio alla sxetiko anekdoto (bombardismoi ktl) -Giati den egkathistoyn toys S-300 sthn Krhth? -Giati tha toys amolhsoyn oi Krhtikoi se kana gamo ('h baftisia Baggelh) From papas at wise.gr Sat Sep 15 10:49:43 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:49:43 +0300 Subject: Saxtoyros o megas References: <01091420492901.00160@darkstar> Message-ID: <002401c13dba$fe05f820$0200a8c0@vagos> xronia polla, xronia kalla, xronia eftixismena stavro... Sorry pou den sou ta eipa xtes, alla kai ka8sisterimena kati einai... Oti po8eis. vagoulas From sbolis at freemail.gr Sat Sep 15 10:47:05 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:47:05 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Saxtoyros o megas In-Reply-To: <002401c13dba$fe05f820$0200a8c0@vagos> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > vagoulas APAITOYME thn allagh ths ypografhs apo vagoulas se Baggelhs o xazobabas ;-) -- Spiros D. Bolis Y.G. Kane mas ena update gia thn katastash Eipe o neos baba, mama, egrapse aytoys toys drivers ktl ktl.. ;-)) From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Mon Sep 17 23:38:07 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:38:07 +0300 Subject: [loki-announce] Announcing an SDL Game Contest Message-ID: <01091723394900.00746@Lato> gia opion ton endiaferi.... No Starch Press, publishers of PROGRAMMING LINUX GAMES, is pleased to announce an SDL GAME DEVELOPMENT CONTEST, open to entries from game developers worldwide. Create a complete SDL-based computer game under 1 megabyte, and send it to games at nostarch.com by DECEMBER 1, 2001 and you could win the entire Loki Software game library, books from No Starch Press, a subscription to Linux Journal magazine, and more! Contest details: www.nostarch.com/?games Questions: games at nostarch.com Sponsored by: No Starch Press, www.nostarch.com: Publishers of PROGRAMMING LINUX GAMES Loki Software, Inc. www.lokigames.com: Ports best-selling PC games to Linux Linux Journal www.linuxjournal.com: The leading Linux magazine From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Wed Sep 19 14:58:48 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP Message-ID: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> Hello paides... Kapoios apo esas moy eixe pei oti exei dei kapoy sto web mia homemade mpriza (reymatos) me ip etsi wste na mporeis na kanei hard reboot remote. Gianni nomizw esy mou to eixes pei. Opoios to 3erei as mou steilei to url. Thanx Lefteris From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Wed Sep 19 15:11:17 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:11:17 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> Message-ID: <200109191208.PAA00826@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Wed 19 Sep 2001 14:58, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > Hello paides... > > Kapoios apo esas moy eixe pei oti exei dei kapoy sto web mia homemade > mpriza (reymatos) me ip etsi wste na mporeis na kanei hard reboot remote. > Gianni nomizw esy mou to eixes pei. Opoios to 3erei as mou steilei to url. > > Thanx > > Lefteris To eixa vrei diafimisi se ena periodiko pou eimuna sindromitis. Epeidi ta periodika einai akoma stis kutes, pes mu an einai ameso na to koitakso ayrio. apo mia sintomi volta sto google : http://www.baytechdcd.com/ http://www.wti.com/power.htm http://www.teleboot.com/access2000.html keyword : remote power servers -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From papas at wise.gr Wed Sep 19 21:58:46 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:58:46 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> Message-ID: <20010919215846.12803afb.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > > Hello paides... > > Kapoios apo esas moy eixe pei oti exei dei kapoy sto web mia homemade mpriza > (reymatos) me ip etsi wste na mporeis na kanei hard reboot remote. Gianni > nomizw esy mou to eixes pei. Opoios to 3erei as mou steilei to url. > > Thanx > > Lefteris > oxi oti eimai sigouros, alla den mporei na ginei kati tetoio pio efkola meso enos tilefonou kai enos ilektronikou sistimatos me DTMF? Sigoura afto pantos to xe kanei enas sigatoikos mou gia ptixiaki. Eperne tilefono spiti tou, kai elegxe me tous tonous diafores mprizes opos kafetiera, air-condition, plintirio, ipologisti, ilektriki kouverta, doniti k.lp. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Fri Sep 21 09:54:14 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:54:14 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <20010919215846.12803afb.papas@wise.gr> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <20010919215846.12803afb.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <01092109575900.00746@Lato> >On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > > > Hello paides... > > Kapoios apo esas moy eixe pei oti exei dei kapoy sto web mia homemade mpriza > (reymatos) me ip etsi wste na mporeis na kanei hard reboot remote. Gianni > nomizw esy mou to eixes pei. Opoios to 3erei as mou steilei to url. > > Thanx > > Lefteris pedia to sistima legete InstaBus ke den ine tipota alo apo ena sistima diaxirisis ilektrikon fortion me mikroipologisti (kathe mpriza ke diakoptis exoun to dikotous epexergasti ) ke to kostos mias tetia mprizas ine 15000-20000drx aparetita omos prepi na exis ke tin Basi i opia sindeete ston kentriko pinaka kathos ke mia dio siskeves pou sindeonte me tin tilefonki grami... to sistima afto exi kathierothi os protipo ke exoun simvatotita oles oi siskeves apo oles tis eteries kataskevis ilektrologikou ilikou ..... From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Sep 21 11:53:53 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:53:53 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <01092109575900.00746@Lato> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <20010919215846.12803afb.papas@wise.gr> <01092109575900.00746@Lato> Message-ID: <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Fri 21 Sep 2001 09:54, Georgios Maravelias wrote: > >On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > pedia to sistima legete InstaBus ke den ine tipota alo apo ena sistima > diaxirisis ilektrikon fortion me mikroipologisti (kathe mpriza ke diakoptis > exoun to dikotous epexergasti ) ke to kostos mias tetia mprizas ine > 15000-20000drx aparetita omos prepi na exis ke tin Basi i opia sindeete > ston kentriko pinaka kathos ke mia dio siskeves pou sindeonte me tin > tilefonki grami... to sistima afto exi kathierothi os protipo ke exoun > simvatotita oles oi siskeves apo oles tis eteries kataskevis ilektrologikou > ilikou ..... Eixe ginei ena seminario sta TEI sxetika apo tin Philips. Alla toInstaBus periorizete sto ktirio. Den vriskese sixna stin anagki afu exeis eksantlisei ta panta na kaneis ena Router ena swich h enan server hard boot. Tote deka vimatakia eine (akoma ke stin Iatriki) na pas na tu naoigokleiseis ton diakopti tu g...nu. Ti genete omos an to sistima einai sto asteroskopoio, stin Thesaloniki, stin Zuazilandi? Theleis kapoia remote lisi. Xm to sistima me to tilefono einai nomizo poly kalo (arkei na vrethei commercial lisi) mias ke : No router -> No network -> No IP stin priza -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From lefteris at edu.uoc.gr Fri Sep 21 12:48:43 2001 From: lefteris at edu.uoc.gr (Lefteris Sidirourgos) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:48:43 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <01092109575900.00746@Lato> <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <01092112484301.00248@darkstar> On Friday 21 September 2001 11:53, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > On Fri 21 Sep 2001 09:54, Georgios Maravelias wrote: > > >On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Lefteris Sidirourgos > > wrote: > > pedia to sistima legete InstaBus ke den ine tipota alo apo ena sistima > > diaxirisis ilektrikon fortion me mikroipologisti (kathe mpriza ke > > diakoptis exoun to dikotous epexergasti ) ke to kostos mias tetia mprizas > > ine 15000-20000drx aparetita omos prepi na exis ke tin Basi i opia > > sindeete ston kentriko pinaka kathos ke mia dio siskeves pou sindeonte me > > tin tilefonki grami... to sistima afto exi kathierothi os protipo ke > > exoun simvatotita oles oi siskeves apo oles tis eteries kataskevis > > ilektrologikou ilikou ..... > > Eixe ginei ena seminario sta TEI sxetika apo tin Philips. Alla toInstaBus > periorizete sto ktirio. Den vriskese sixna stin anagki afu exeis > eksantlisei ta panta na kaneis ena Router ena swich h enan server hard > boot. > > Tote deka vimatakia eine (akoma ke stin Iatriki) na pas na tu > naoigokleiseis ton diakopti tu g...nu. Ti genete omos an to sistima einai > sto asteroskopoio, stin Thesaloniki, stin Zuazilandi? Theleis kapoia remote > lisi. > > Xm to sistima me to tilefono einai nomizo poly kalo (arkei na vrethei > commercial lisi) mias ke : > No router -> No network -> No IP stin priza Basika poy to koita3a ligo, kapoia apo ayta den xreiazontai IP kai tetoia. Dhladh yposthrizoyn 3 connections. Ena TCP/IP (me IP gia na boutarei servers xreishmopoivntas kai diafores epiloges), mia serial!!!(ligo axrhsto, dhladh na baleis ena vt panw sthn mpriza) kai ena telephone connection, pou h me modem kaneis dial in oi dyo sas (ektos internet) h pairneis thlefwno apo ena tone phone, apantaei ayto kai toy patas ena tetrapshfio ari8mo kai ayto mpoytarei thn antoisthxh mpriza. Nomizw oti to teleytaio einai kai to kalytero. Dhladh bootareis mhxanhma apo kartothlefwno!!! Apo security den 3erw ti leei. To 8ema einai oti ayta kostizoun 450$. Polla lefta. Poso stoixeizei gia na to fia3ei kaneis ayto home made? Ekei einai to 8ema. Kai an briskame kai kanena sxedio akoma kalhtera. Lefteris From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Sep 21 14:31:03 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:31:03 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <01092112484301.00248@darkstar> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <01092112484301.00248@darkstar> Message-ID: <200109211128.OAA18499@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Fri 21 Sep 2001 12:48, Lefteris Sidirourgos wrote: > teleytaio einai kai to kalytero. Dhladh bootareis mhxanhma apo > kartothlefwno!!! Apo security den 3erw ti leei. > Xaxaxa den mu perase apo to mialo ek protis opseos. Xm malon prepei na pliktrologeis kapoio kodiko gia na ginei i duleia. As pume oti einai 3 psifia. Diladis me 10.000 draxmes rixneis kato to server. Ti server einai ? > To 8ema einai oti ayta kostizoun 450$. Polla lefta. Poso stoixeizei gia na > to fia3ei kaneis ayto home made? Ekei einai to 8ema. Kai an briskame kai > kanena sxedio akoma kalhtera. > Xm ksero kati paidia asterakia ilektrologus sto TEI (oxi ton kmaster), pu isos mporesun na vrun sxedia-ftiaksun, an iparxun ta frangka. I an mporei o Vagelis na vrei tin ptixiaki apo ta Xania -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Fri Sep 21 20:52:14 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:52:14 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <01092109575900.00746@Lato> <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <01092120580200.00757@Lato> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > On Fri 21 Sep 2001 09:54, Georgios Maravelias wrote: > > >On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:58:48 +0300 Lefteris Sidirourgos > wrote: > > pedia to sistima legete InstaBus ke den ine tipota alo apo ena sistima > > diaxirisis ilektrikon fortion me mikroipologisti (kathe mpriza ke diakoptis > > exoun to dikotous epexergasti ) ke to kostos mias tetia mprizas ine > > 15000-20000drx aparetita omos prepi na exis ke tin Basi i opia sindeete > > ston kentriko pinaka kathos ke mia dio siskeves pou sindeonte me tin > > tilefonki grami... to sistima afto exi kathierothi os protipo ke exoun > > simvatotita oles oi siskeves apo oles tis eteries kataskevis ilektrologikou > > ilikou ..... > > Eixe ginei ena seminario sta TEI sxetika apo tin Philips. Alla toInstaBus > periorizete sto ktirio. Den vriskese sixna stin anagki afu exeis eksantlisei > ta panta na kaneis ena Router ena swich h enan server hard boot. > > Tote deka vimatakia eine (akoma ke stin Iatriki) na pas na tu naoigokleiseis > ton diakopti tu g...nu. Ti genete omos an to sistima einai sto asteroskopoio, > stin Thesaloniki, stin Zuazilandi? Theleis kapoia remote lisi. > > Xm to sistima me to tilefono einai nomizo poly kalo (arkei na vrethei > commercial lisi) mias ke : > No router -> No network -> No IP stin priza > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! file mou giani to seminario to ekane i siemens ..... ke i efkolia tou sistimatos itan oti epernes tielfono apo to kinitosou ke akouges mia glikia ginekia foni na sou lei gia tin katastasi ton fortion tou spitiou (an ine o thermosifonas anixtos an ine anixta ta parathira an potizete o kipos ktlp .... ) . mporouses me enan kodiko apo to tilefono sou na energopiisis i ke na klisis kapia fortia .... den xero isos ke giati oxi ke na ipirxe ke anagnorisi fonis . ektos apo ola afta to olo to sistima etrexe ena programa pou tou eftiaxne o egatastatis. akoma mporis ke na exis ke to pc sou sindemeno me to data bus tou sistimatos ( ne filoi mou o diakoptis den anigokline ena kikloma den itan diakoptis ala enas pompos simaton entolon ). filika Georgios Maravelias From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Fri Sep 21 21:00:15 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:00:15 +0300 Subject: Mpriza me IP In-Reply-To: <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <01091914584800.00222@darkstar> <01092109575900.00746@Lato> <200109210850.LAA17147@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <01092121012001.00757@Lato> opios endiaferete exo CD me multimedia parousiasi tou sistimatos filika Georgios Maravelias From sbolis at freemail.gr Wed Sep 26 14:29:26 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:29:26 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Ayto poy oloi perimenate... (nai kala) Message-ID: http://phobos.edunet.uoa.gr/~sbolis/herlug/ mhn pesete oloi kai moy xalasete to bandwith ;-) Exw kai ena link me oles tis fwtografies se *.tif gia opoion antexei na tis katebasei.. PROSOXH.. einai POLY prama..(emena de me noiazei, eseis tha psaxneste) -rw-rw-r-- 1 sbolis sbolis 53099213 Σεπ 26 14:27 ifcrete2001.tar.gz http://phobos.edunet.uoa.gr/~sbolis/herlug/ifcrete2001.tar.gz Twra.. molis moypeite oti den yparxei provlhma me kamia (leme twra) tha tis balw kai sto hellug.gr H pshfiopoihsh twn videatwn exei meinei pisw Kala na pernate, -- Spiros D. Bolis From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Wed Sep 26 15:21:42 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:21:42 +0100 (WET DST) Subject: Ayto poy oloi perimenate... (nai kala) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Spiros Bolis wrote: > > http://phobos.edunet.uoa.gr/~sbolis/herlug/ Cool! Pantws, 8amporouse na tous ginei mia stixeiwdhs yhfiakh epe3ergasia, kai na mhn mpoun oi 8oles. > mhn pesete oloi kai moy xalasete to bandwith ;-) > > Exw kai ena link me oles tis fwtografies se *.tif gia opoion antexei na > tis katebasei.. > > PROSOXH.. einai POLY prama..(emena de me noiazei, eseis tha psaxneste) > -rw-rw-r-- 1 sbolis sbolis 53099213 Σεπ 26 14:27 ifcrete2001.tar.gz > > http://phobos.edunet.uoa.gr/~sbolis/herlug/ifcrete2001.tar.gz > > > Twra.. molis moypeite oti den yparxei provlhma me kamia (leme twra) tha > tis balw kai sto hellug.gr > > > H pshfiopoihsh twn videatwn exei meinei pisw > > Kala na pernate, > > -- > Spiros D. Bolis > > Ki egw tou lew: "Roula, den eis' enta3ei" ----------------------------- /"\ ASCII-Ribbon Campaign \ / """""""""""""""""""" x No HTML or WORD in Mails / \ HTML is for WEB, Word is for Micro$oft. ----------------------------- From webmaster at knosos.dnsart.com Wed Sep 26 11:52:45 2001 From: webmaster at knosos.dnsart.com (George Barbounis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:52:45 +0300 Subject: laden Message-ID: <01092611524500.00820@minoas> osama bin laden (lete na me sulaboun? -- http://www.geocities.com/barbounis or some times http://knosos.dnsart.com From papas at wise.gr Wed Sep 26 20:23:51 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:23:51 +0300 Subject: Ayto poy oloi perimenate... (nai kala) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010926202351.367dee25.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:29:26 +0300 (EEST) Spiros Bolis wrote: parakalo i 3 na DIAGRAFEI amesa, giati i kotsida tou gianni krivei to kefali tou piguinouuuuuuuu!! (emena den me peirazei tipota allo) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From sbolis at freemail.gr Wed Sep 26 17:25:42 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:25:42 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Ayto poy oloi perimenate... (nai kala) In-Reply-To: <20010926202351.367dee25.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:29:26 +0300 (EEST) Spiros Bolis wrote: > (emena den me peirazei tipota allo) Ama to kanw Cc: ston papasjunior tha soy pw egw poion peirazei ;-) -- Spiros D. Bolis Y.G. Pws einai o neos kai h mama toy? From papas at wise.gr Wed Sep 26 23:58:40 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:58:40 +0300 Subject: laden In-Reply-To: <01092611524500.00820@minoas> References: <01092611524500.00820@minoas> Message-ID: <20010926235840.643c0a70.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:52:45 +0300 George Barbounis wrote: > osama bin laden > (lete na me sulaboun? > -- to sosto einia 'osama binladin' Mallon emena 8a silavoun :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Wed Sep 26 21:13:38 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:13:38 +0300 Subject: laden In-Reply-To: <20010926235840.643c0a70.papas@wise.gr> References: <01092611524500.00820@minoas> <20010926235840.643c0a70.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <200109261810.VAA04145@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Wed 26 Sep 2001 23:58, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:52:45 +0300 George Barbounis wrote: > > osama bin laden > > (lete na me sulaboun? > > -- > > to sosto einia 'osama binladin' > > Mallon emena 8a silavoun :) OYXI to orthon einai Osama Saxturos Laden. P.S. Re aytes oi eikones akoma katevainun kai katevainn kai kanevainun...... 50MB se tiff, TIFF ? Are you me ta kala sas? P.S 2 To omorfo ton kotso mu kaneis den logokrinei... -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From papas at wise.gr Thu Sep 27 00:06:26 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:06:26 +0300 Subject: bsdades... peite alevri Message-ID: <20010927000626.7088c0b3.papas@wise.gr> bsdades tou herlug, eviva... Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:18:53 +0300 From: Nikos Mavroyanopoulos To: linux-greek-users at lists.hellug.gr Newsgroups: local.linux.greek.users Subject: Re: instead of (another distro) war On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:26:54 +0228 Άγγελος Οικονομόπουλος wrote: > Παράθεση: > From: Adre Hedrick > To: lkml > It is clear that BSD is going off the deep end. > Linux ATA Development has a Legal signed NDA for the proper development of > the complete and correct FastTrak(tm) open sources driver. > I will soon publish the complete header codes in a original header w/ > a Linux ATA Development Copyright and Promise Technologies Copyright. > The driver will have a GPL statement be issued in the headers and source > files to prevent the usage in BSDish environments. I have not tolerance > for being labled a thief. Μόλις ξέσπασε πόλεμος... [και για να προωθήσω και στην λίστα το κλίμα]: Η κακία των *bsdαδων πρέπει να οφείλεται κυρίως ότι το linux επικράτησε, εστω και αν ξεκινήσαν την ίδια περίπου εποχή και με έτοιμο πυρήνα :) Καλά δεν αρκεί το γεγονός ότι η microsoft υποστηρίζει μόνο το freebsd για να καταλάβουν ότι κάτι κάνουν λάθος; -- Nikos Mavroyanopoulos mailto:nmav at hellug.gr -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From barbounis at thea.gr Thu Sep 27 09:49:50 2001 From: barbounis at thea.gr (George Barbounis) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:49:50 +0300 Subject: test Message-ID: <01092709495001.00814@minoas> test -- http://www.geocities.com/barbounis or some times http://knosos.dnsart.com From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Sep 27 13:54:28 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:54:28 +0300 Subject: bsdades... peite alevri In-Reply-To: <20010927000626.7088c0b3.papas@wise.gr> References: <20010927000626.7088c0b3.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <200109271049.NAA09896@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Thu 27 Sep 2001 00:06, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > bsdades tou herlug, eviva... > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:18:53 +0300 > From: Nikos Mavroyanopoulos > To: linux-greek-users at lists.hellug.gr > Newsgroups: local.linux.greek.users > Subject: Re: instead of (another distro) war > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:26:54 +0228 Άγγελος Οικονομόπουλος wrote: > > Παράθεση: > > From: Adre Hedrick > > To: lkml > > It is clear that BSD is going off the deep end. > > Linux ATA Development has a Legal signed NDA for the proper development > > of the complete and correct FastTrak(tm) open sources driver. > > I will soon publish the complete header codes in a original header w/ > > a Linux ATA Development Copyright and Promise Technologies Copyright. > > The driver will have a GPL statement be issued in the headers and source > > files to prevent the usage in BSDish environments. I have not tolerance > > for being labled a thief. > Allo pragma na allazeis to licence apo BSD se GNU ke allo pragma na min vazeis ta sosta credits sta files. Diladi na karponese tin duleia allu parusiazontas tin san diki su. Akoma ke an auto einai ena header file. An ke pithana ta header files na min mporei na ta xaraktirisei kaneis kodika periexun stoixeia gia design ke ollo to maniki gia tin epikoinonia tu hardware me to OS. > Μόλις ξέσπασε πόλεμος... > > [και για να προωθήσω και στην λίστα το κλίμα]: Η κακία των *bsdαδων πρέπει > να οφείλεται κυρίως ότι το linux επικράτησε, εστω και αν ξεκινήσαν την ίδια > περίπου εποχή και με έτοιμο πυρήνα :) > > Καλά δεν αρκεί το γεγονός ότι η microsoft υποστηρίζει μόνο το freebsd για > να καταλάβουν ότι κάτι κάνουν λάθος; H orgi tu manitu tha pesei pano sta kefalia ton BSDadon. To pneyma tu GNU milise. Otan tha vlepete to Vasilaki na eispratei to kerdos ton dikon sas kodikon, o megas vuvalos tha kalpazei eleytheros stis aperantes pediades tis Wan. OYGK. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From barbounis at thea.gr Thu Sep 27 15:49:10 2001 From: barbounis at thea.gr (George Barbounis) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:49:10 +0300 Subject: mplouzakia Message-ID: <01092715491000.00815@minoas> gianh pou einai ta mplouzakia? (fantazomai oti 8a katalabe o apodekteis tis erwthseis) -- http://www.geocities.com/barbounis or some times http://knosos.dnsart.com From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Tue Oct 2 12:23:26 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:23:26 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: X windows kai SunOs Message-ID: zitite apantisi stin erotisi: pos kanoume compile mia efarmogi pou xrisimopii tin Xlib sto SunOs dokimasa ta klasika : gcc blabla.c -L/usr/local/X11 -lX11 kai gcc blabla -lX11 kathos kai oti path me openwin kai X11R5 h X11R6 eiparxi sto mixanima (gia osous kseroun ta sun stin G sto CSD) kai panta mou leei to idio : blabla.c :X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory kitaksa sta directory piou tou edosa kai h libs eiparxoun.... kamia idea ?? (to thema einai asxeto me linux alla kapou eprepe na rotiso) CoReD From kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr Tue Oct 2 13:34:13 2001 From: kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr (Kissandrakis S. George) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:34:13 +0300 Subject: X windows kai SunOs References: Message-ID: <3BB99825.76500943@phaistosnetworks.gr> > blabla.c :X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory to X11/Xlib.h yparxei sto /usr/local/X11/include -- Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Tue Oct 2 15:54:46 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Subject: X windows kai SunOs In-Reply-To: <3BB99825.76500943@phaistosnetworks.gr> Message-ID: otan enoo lib enoo ta .h arxia pou eiparxoun sto include directori kai ne eiparxei kai ne ekana include tis vivliothikes mesa ston kodika mou ..... na theso alios tin erotisi ...xmmm gianakaneis ton compiler na kitaksi sto directorh me ta .h arxia tis Xlib ti prepei na tou dosis sto SunOS ? px : sta solaria kaneis : gcc blabla.c -lX11 sto linux kaneis : gcc blabla.c -L/usr/local/X11 -lX11 genika to programma pou exo kanei compile (kai doulevei sto solaris) alla otan piga na do poso grigora tha pigenei sta Sun anakalipsa oti den mporo na to kano compile ! CoReD On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Kissandrakis S. George wrote: > > > > blabla.c :X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory > > to X11/Xlib.h yparxei sto /usr/local/X11/include > > -- > Kissandrakis S. George [kissand at phaistosnetworks.gr] > Network and System Administrator [http://www.phaistosnetworks.gr/] > From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Tue Oct 2 16:08:17 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:08:17 +0300 (EEST) Subject: X windows kai SunOs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, CoReD wrote: > gia na kaneis ton compiler na kitaksi sto directorh me ta .h arxia tis > Xlib ti prepei na tou dosis sto SunOS ? > px : sta solaria kaneis : gcc blabla.c -lX11 > sto linux kaneis : gcc blabla.c -L/usr/local/X11 -lX11 To -L einai gia tis biblio8hkes. Dokimase me -I gia ta includes files (to idio isxyei kai sto unix, e3allou einai 8ema tou ld oxi tou leitourgikou). From papas at wise.gr Wed Oct 3 17:45:44 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:45:44 +0300 Subject: .... . . . . In-Reply-To: <000801c14b8e$46b74660$68d0cdd4@harisgiorgos> References: <20010702080711.67e1a4e5.papas@wise.gr> <000801c14b8e$46b74660$68d0cdd4@harisgiorgos> Message-ID: <20011003174544.2dd57d07.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 01:04:56 +0300 "epp11 at epp on Haris" wrote: > DEN THELW NA EIMAI ALLO STIN LISTA. PARAKALW BGALTE ME > SOU ERXETE KA8E MINA ENA MAIL POU SOU LEEI TI KAI POS NA KANEIS GIA NA BGEIS. BGES MONOS SOU. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Wed Oct 3 18:42:54 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:42:54 +0300 Subject: BSDvsLinux Message-ID: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> http://www.daemonnews.org/200110/dadvocate.html From papas at wise.gr Wed Oct 3 23:15:45 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:15:45 +0300 Subject: BSDvsLinux In-Reply-To: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> Message-ID: <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:42:54 +0300 Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > http://www.daemonnews.org/200110/dadvocate.html > re saxtouri, ti einai re afto to komplex katoterotitas pou kouvalas? :))) Aman pia, to kseroume oloi oti to bsd einai kalitero, den einai anagi na mas to 8imizeis... 'H mipos to kaneis gia na sou to 8imizeis? :)) Fisika gia osous me kseroun, katalabainoun oti to leo entelos gia plaka, opote kai osoi de me kseroun parakalountai na to paroun etsi kai na min provoun se energeies px vomvardismous, tora pou egina kai (pa)teras. KATA TA ALLA TORA: 8a pame gia kana kafe reeeeeeeeeeee? Iposxomai na krato foto tou papasjunior :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Wed Oct 3 21:11:26 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:11:26 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi(was:Re: BSDvsLinux) References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> > KATA TA ALLA TORA: > 8a pame gia kana kafe reeeeeeeeeeee? Iposxomai na krato foto tou papasjunior :) Mporo na po oti i protasi sou einai deleastikotati.Pes mas pio vradaki mporeis na pareis adeia apo ton diadoxo kai tin Xenia kai emeis tha kanonisoume. Paraskeui sou kanei? Nikos From papas at wise.gr Thu Oct 4 02:23:43 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:23:43 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi In-Reply-To: <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> Message-ID: <20011004022343.3f99c172.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:11:26 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > > KATA TA ALLA TORA: > > 8a pame gia kana kafe reeeeeeeeeeee? Iposxomai na krato foto tou > papasjunior :) > > Mporo na po oti i protasi sou einai deleastikotati.Pes mas pio vradaki > mporeis na pareis adeia apo ton diadoxo kai tin Xenia kai emeis tha > kanonisoume. > Paraskeui sou kanei? > > Nikos > fine by me, alla mipos 8a exei para-poli kosmo? de goustaro na psaxnoume na katsoume (8a eimaste kai mpolikoi logika...) kai pempti kala einai... ,kai paraskevi fine, panta meta tis 21:30 pou prepei na ton kano banio :))) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Wed Oct 3 23:33:17 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 23:33:17 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> <20011004022343.3f99c172.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <3BBB760D.315338C5@csd.uoc.gr> Ara, telika, ti wra? "Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης" wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:11:26 +0300 "NTG21" wrote: > > > > KATA TA ALLA TORA: > > > 8a pame gia kana kafe reeeeeeeeeeee? Iposxomai na krato foto tou > > papasjunior :) > > > > Mporo na po oti i protasi sou einai deleastikotati.Pes mas pio vradaki > > mporeis na pareis adeia apo ton diadoxo kai tin Xenia kai emeis tha > > kanonisoume. > > Paraskeui sou kanei? > > > > Nikos > > > > fine by me, alla mipos 8a exei para-poli kosmo? de goustaro na psaxnoume na katsoume (8a eimaste kai mpolikoi logika...) > > kai pempti kala einai... > ,kai paraskevi fine, > > panta meta tis 21:30 pou prepei na ton kano banio :))) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Wed Oct 3 23:33:41 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 23:33:41 +0300 Subject: Sunantisis gia kafen Message-ID: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> Kai ti mera, bebaia... From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Oct 4 02:10:27 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:10:27 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> <20011004022343.3f99c172.papas@wise.gr> <3BBB760D.315338C5@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <001a01c14c60$9867dec0$35083493@hp> > Ara, telika, ti wra? Ti tha legate gia pempti kata tis 9:30-10:00? Nikos From papas at wise.gr Thu Oct 4 05:15:02 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:15:02 +0300 Subject: Sunantisis gia kafen In-Reply-To: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> References: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 23:33:41 +0300 Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > Kai ti mera, bebaia... > loipon: ti8entai ta eksis 8emata MERA: (Paraskevi) ORA: (22:00) MEROS:(FIX) SKOPOS: if ($FLOROI || $BORED || $HAVE_ELKOS) FAI; else @PIOTO @PIOTO @PIOTO; Mesa se parentheseis einai afta pou proteino. Opoios exei antiriseis, na to pei. SINOPSIZO: Paraskevi, 22:00 sto FIX, gia @PIOTO Me alfabitiki seira, CountZero, Gabrilos, Papas, Sidirourgos, Tsagatakis, XatziCaterpillar pou eimaste oi skliropirinikoi 8a eimaste. Oloi oi alloi efprosdektoi kai me to parapano. Elpizo na r8ei kai o Tzanidakis na ton gnoriso epitelous, (nomizo oti mou xalase i sony :)))) A, 8a er8ei kai o saxtouros, kai an 8elei na ferei kai kana allo bsda giati enas nomizo de 8a mas ftasei gia epidorpio an eimaste oloi :) Episis, an vreite tipota opadous tou emacs, kai aftoi kaloi einai, an kai diskoloxoneftoi. Mi ferete kanena tis redhat, aftous tous exoume sixa8ei ka8e mera trome kai enan :) NA MHN ER8OUN OSOI DEN EXOUN OREKSI (H TA EFODIA) GIA ENA IERO POLEMO! -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Oct 4 02:33:07 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:33:07 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> <20011004022343.3f99c172.papas@wise.gr> <3BBB760D.315338C5@csd.uoc.gr> <001a01c14c60$9867dec0$35083493@hp> Message-ID: <3BBBA033.2F33E61C@csd.uoc.gr> NTG21 wrote: > > > Ara, telika, ti wra? > > Ti tha legate gia pempti kata tis 9:30-10:00? An den upar3oun alles antirhseis, ekleise. > Nikos From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 08:20:50 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:20:50 +0300 Subject: Sunantisis gia kafen In-Reply-To: <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> References: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20011004082050.46b3cbc0.mtzanidakis@yahoo.com> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:15:02 +0300 Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Elpizo na r8ei kai o Tzanidakis na ton gnoriso epitelous, (nomizo oti mou xalase i sony :)))) Dystyxws file Vag eimai Xania opote atopo. Gia ti sony min anyshxeis, kalese twra 090-123456 kai o eidikos thle-sono-mastoro-ftiaxto-ypovrixio-tavlo-logos mas 8a se voh8hsei sigoura :) Manwlis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Oct 4 09:02:46 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:02:46 +0300 Subject: Sunantisi References: <01100318425400.00823@terminus> <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> <002f01c14c36$d14fd6e0$41083493@hp> <20011004022343.3f99c172.papas@wise.gr> <3BBB760D.315338C5@csd.uoc.gr> <001a01c14c60$9867dec0$35083493@hp> <3BBBA033.2F33E61C@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <001401c14c9a$30c0c9a0$18083493@hp> > > > Ara, telika, ti wra? > > > > Ti tha legate gia pempti kata tis 9:30-10:00? > > An den upar3oun alles antirhseis, ekleise. Exo arxisei kai xano tin mpala.Tora gia pote eipame? Pempti i paraskeui?Ypotheto Paraskeui alla as epivevaiothei na xeroume sigoura.(Papas?) Nikos From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Oct 4 11:29:58 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:29:58 +0300 Subject: BSDvsLinux In-Reply-To: <20011003231545.3bbf25be.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: > 8a pame gia kana kafe reeeeeeeeeeee? Iposxomai na krato foto tou papasjunior :) kai giati den tis stelneis sth lista na doyme ki emeis? (kai oxi.. den exw problhma na katebasw 50 Mb se tiff ;-) ) Spiros D. Bolis From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Oct 4 13:07:53 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:07:53 +0300 Subject: Sunantisis gia kafen In-Reply-To: <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> References: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <200110041004.NAA21890@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Thu 04 Oct 2001 05:15, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Me alfabitiki seira, CountZero, Gabrilos, Papas, Sidirourgos, Tsagatakis, > XatziCaterpillar pou eimaste oi skliropirinikoi 8a eimaste. Oloi oi alloi > efprosdektoi kai me to parapano. Fofamai olla aytus pou mou lene gia mena xoris emena. Alla entaksi re tha ertho -:). YSTEROPROTASI ------------- Exo dei to Final Fantasy se DivX ke epatha plaka. Thelo na to do megali othoni. Ti lete to kanonizume gia Savato ? Telos mia mantida pu mu esteile enas (allos) Tsagatakis stin lgu to idio onoma bastoun thn idia exoun xarh kai ta para8yra tou Bill grammena sto papari H arxaia fili ton Tsagatakidon apo touw polemus kai sfages ton Tzagarakidon exei diaskorpistei se oli tin Kriti, parepeinan loigoi men alla antistekontai sthenara stus Tzagarakides. NO PASSARAN. SuSE Rulez -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From portokal at csd.uoc.gr Thu Oct 4 16:26:03 2001 From: portokal at csd.uoc.gr (Legba) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 16:26:03 +0300 Subject: Sunantisis gia kafen References: <3BBB7625.23FC3A2D@csd.uoc.gr> <20011004051502.73d2b434.papas@wise.gr> <200110041004.NAA21890@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <3BBC636B.DCCC5B40@csd.uoc.gr> Twra ayth einai mia KALH idea!!! Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > On Thu 04 Oct 2001 05:15, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > > > Me alfabitiki seira, CountZero, Gabrilos, Papas, Sidirourgos, Tsagatakis, > > XatziCaterpillar pou eimaste oi skliropirinikoi 8a eimaste. Oloi oi alloi > > efprosdektoi kai me to parapano. > > Fofamai olla aytus pou mou lene gia mena xoris emena. Alla entaksi re tha > ertho -:). > > YSTEROPROTASI > ------------- > Exo dei to Final Fantasy se DivX ke epatha plaka. Thelo na to do megali > othoni. Ti lete to kanonizume gia Savato ? > > Telos mia mantida pu mu esteile enas (allos) Tsagatakis stin lgu > to idio onoma bastoun thn idia exoun xarh > kai ta para8yra tou Bill grammena sto papari > > > H arxaia fili ton Tsagatakidon apo touw polemus kai sfages ton Tzagarakidon > exei diaskorpistei se oli tin Kriti, parepeinan loigoi men alla antistekontai > sthenara stus Tzagarakides. NO PASSARAN. SuSE Rulez > > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! -- "I dread success. To have succeeded is to have finished one's business on earth, like the male spider, who is killed by the female the moment he has succeeded in his courtship. I like a state of continual becoming, with a goal in front and not behind." -- George Bernard Shaw From papas at wise.gr Thu Oct 4 19:52:26 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (papas at wise.gr) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:52:26 +0300 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <200110041652.f94GpUF17584@hera.wise.gr> an kai ligo arga, epibebaiono to rantevou gia simera. Loipon, 8a eimai ekso apo to FIX kata tis 22:00 filakia, mi me stisete... From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Oct 4 20:09:26 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:09:26 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Xairetismata apo to listarxo Message-ID: Kyrioi, paraligo na mh ftasei to mhnyma toy eftyxh patera sth lista gia ton parakatw logo Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed. Try reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in the To: or Cc: fields. Me aformh ayto tha ithela na ypenthymisw se oloys pws an de stelnete e-mail sth lista apo ayto me to opoio eiste grammenoi tha xreiazete na epembei kapoios apo emas (Xatzhbolntozas kai h afentomoytsoynara moy) gia na egkrithei to mail.. Epishs, einai kanenas apo esas gia Salonikh tis meres ths ektheshs? Perilambanontai arketa piwmata kata paradosh... Kala na perasete shmera, -- Spiros D. Bolis From sbolis at freemail.gr Fri Oct 5 20:35:38 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:35:38 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Kolpo Grosso @ Ska'i' Message-ID: loipon, extes pragmatika moy irthe na sas parw thlefwno oloys (ap' osoys synteknoys exw thlefwna) gia na sas pw mia kalhspera.. As opsetai o pyretos mou gamw thn atyxia moy.. Stixomythia: (Ieroklhs Mixahlidhs arxiloxias katadromwn. Oxi kai to pio katallhlo atomo apo apopshs baroys gi ayth th doyleia mallon) Se mia seira neoydia rwtaei enan pws ton lene (to gyrizw sta Ellhnika) Αρχιλοχιας: (στο περιπου, δε θυμαμαι ακριβως) Πως σε λενε παιδι μου; Νεος: Δασκαλογιατρομανωλακης (τελοσπαντων βρειτε ενα ονομα που τελειωνει σε -ακης) Ζιωργος Αρχιλοχιας: (με αυστηρο υφος σα να κανει παρατηρηση) Με Ζητα το γραφεις παιδι μου; Νεος: (σαν να ειναι το πιο φυσικο πραγμα στον κοσμο) 'Οι, με ζιωτα !!!! 3afnika thymithika to prwto mathima Krhtikwn apo ton Giannh ton Tsagkatakh poy prospathoyse na moy e3hghsei pote proferetai kai pote oxi to X (proferetai Chi ;-) ) Elpizw na perasate kala xtes, Tha erthei kaneis sas SaLLonikh? -- Spiros D. Bolis From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Oct 9 12:46:27 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:46:27 +0300 Subject: Kolpo Grosso @ Ska'i' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200110090942.MAA30373@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Fri 05 Oct 2001 20:35, Spiros Bolis wrote: > 3afnika thymithika to prwto mathima Krhtikwn apo ton Giannh ton > Tsagkatakh poy prospathoyse na moy e3hghsei pote proferetai kai pote oxi > to X (proferetai Chi ;-) ) > Epanalamvano to mathima gia na thimithun oi palioi ke na mathun oi neoi. Gia na miliseis kritika prepei na akolutheis ton kanona tu grammatos X TO X eite den proferete katholu eite prferete o CHI (me platagiasma ton xeileon Paradeigama 1: Sto Niet leme oi paratireiste tin eleipsi tu gramatos X stin leksi oi (oxi) Paradeigma 2: To petuchi Oi gnostes ton mathimatikon tha anagnorisan asfalos tin ekfrasi p(x). > > Elpizw na perasate kala xtes, > Min empisteyeste ton papadogianaki otan kleinei rantevu. Epanalamvano Min empisteyeste ton papadogianaki otan kleinei rantevu. Den mas esteile ayti tin fora ston Agio Mina ala se lathos mera. Epanalamvano Min empisteyeste ton papadogianaki otan kleinei rantevu. Eprakse de ke to aytonoito : pige na koimisei to moro anti na sinexisei gia rakes. Oi ipodeloipoi sinexisame mexris proias. > > Tha erthei kaneis sas SaLLonikh? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Thu Oct 11 18:25:10 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:25:10 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Sorry paides kanw ena test Message-ID: <20011011182441.Q57933-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> giati symbainei kati poly para3eno!! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From papas at wise.gr Thu Oct 11 19:32:55 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:32:55 +0300 Subject: Sorry paides kanw ena test In-Reply-To: <20011011182441.Q57933-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> References: <20011011182441.Q57933-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <20011011193255.5d0f4bd4.papas@wise.gr> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:25:10 +0300 (EEST) Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > giati symbainei kati poly para3eno!! > > den to pirame to mail, kati den paei kala :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Fri Oct 12 13:43:03 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:43:03 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Sorry paides kanw ena test In-Reply-To: <20011011193255.5d0f4bd4.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20011012133700.H61589-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Loipon katafera na kanw to pine na ta dei ola!!! Logo kapoivn allagwn xreiasthke na fia3w ta filtra toy pine pali. Eipa loipon anti na grapsw ola ta mail me to:herlug at lists.hellug.gr na phgenoun se allo folder na grapsw ola ta mail poy periexoun thn sketo th le3h herlug sto to: . Mexri edw kala. Meta ekanato idio ki gia to hellug. Ela omws pou ta mail poy sto to: exoun to herlug exoun kai to hellug (herlug at hellug !!!). Apotelsma (mexri na katalavw ti eixe ginei) to pine na prospa8ei na paei to idio mail se diaforetika directorys. Apotelesma aytou: na xanw ola ta mail. Kai lew: telika ti ta ekane? Ta sbhne giati den h3ere poy na ta paei? kai an nai, ayto htan apofash poy eperne "mono" toy to pine h' yparxei mesa ston kwdika ayto, dhladh an den 3ereis ti na ti kaneis sbhsto if (mail == confused) { delete mail; } Lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:25:10 +0300 (EEST) Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > > > > giati symbainei kati poly para3eno!! > > > > > > den to pirame to mail, kati den paei kala :) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Sat Oct 13 22:06:52 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:06:52 +0300 (EEST) Subject: mipos kseri kaneis? Message-ID: hello ... mipos exei kaneis kamia idea gia to pos mporo na kano ton Xserver sto linux na vlepei taftoxrona 2 mouse kai 2 keyboards ? px ena mouse se mia siriaki kai ena allo se ena PS/2 kai antistixa ena pliktrologio se ena PS/2 kai ena se ena USB ? ... diladi na exo aspoume 2 mouse pano sto pc sindemena kai na xirizome ton kensora eite me to ena eite me to allo xoris restart tou Xserver ? Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Oct 15 12:43:27 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:43:27 +0300 Subject: mipos kseri kaneis? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200110150941.MAA14842@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Sat 13 Oct 2001 22:06, CoReD wrote: Gia deytrero maouse eine eykolo. Einai i parametros AlwaysCore. Parakato ena paradeigma gia deytero mouse me tilekontrol. Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse2" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/lircm" Option "DeviceName" "Remote" Option "AlwaysCore" Option "Buttons" "5" EndSection Gia deytero pliktrologio den ksero. Eime omos malon pepeismenos oti tha prepei na iparxei antistoixi parametros. Tora gia to ti tha ginei me to translation ton keyboard codes se pliktra th aprepei na rotiseis ton mago tis filis. Elpizo na voithisa -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Oct 15 13:25:53 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:25:53 +0300 (EEST) Subject: mipos kseri kaneis? In-Reply-To: <200110150941.MAA14842@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > Gia deytero pliktrologio den ksero. Eime omos malon pepeismenos oti tha > prepei na iparxei antistoixi parametros. Tora gia to ti tha ginei me to > translation ton keyboard codes se pliktra th aprepei na rotiseis ton mago tis > filis. Exw dei taytoxrona na paizei USB kai ps/2(miniDin) xwris kanena idiaitero kopo (ektos apo to na soy katsei to USB) -- Spiros D. Bolis From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Oct 15 17:46:07 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:46:07 +0300 Subject: mipos kseri kaneis? References: <200110150941.MAA14842@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <3BCAF6AF.EF2452A5@csd.uoc.gr> Mhpws 3erei kaneis pou mporw na brw ena seugari mhxanika zeria gia na xeirhzomai ta extra mouse kai plhktrologio pou ebala sto FreeBSD mou? Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > On Sat 13 Oct 2001 22:06, CoReD wrote: > > Gia deytrero maouse eine eykolo. Einai i parametros AlwaysCore. > Parakato ena paradeigma gia deytero mouse me tilekontrol. > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse2" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/lircm" > Option "DeviceName" "Remote" > Option "AlwaysCore" > Option "Buttons" "5" > EndSection > > Gia deytero pliktrologio den ksero. Eime omos malon pepeismenos oti tha > prepei na iparxei antistoixi parametros. Tora gia to ti tha ginei me to > translation ton keyboard codes se pliktra th aprepei na rotiseis ton mago tis > filis. > > Elpizo na voithisa > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! From jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr Sun Oct 21 14:53:14 2001 From: jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr (=?X-UNKNOWN?B?w+nc7e3n8iDD5fnx4+Hr3vI=?=) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:53:14 +0200 (EET) Subject: Forwarded mail.... Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:32:38 +0300 (EEST) From: Athanasios Karapantelakis To: berdos at csd.uoc.gr Cc: ugrads at csd.uoc.gr, grads at csd.uoc.gr ----- Original Message ----- From: "BERDOS Nikolaos" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs > > > Edw kai kairo o sullogos epe3ergazetai thn idea na ginei mia > dihmerida plhroforikhs stis 15-16 Noembriou. > Auto to dihmero 8a ginoun omilies apo: > 1)Ekproswpoi apo etaireies plhroforikhs( H/w , S/W , uphresies ) > 2)Foithtes pou 8eloun na parousiasoun mia nea texnologia h oti > autoi krinoun endiaferon > 3)Paidia apo th hellug > > To bhma 8a einai anoikto se olous. > > Epishs exoume skeftei ta parakatw: > > 1)Mouseio plhroforikhs ( me ta palia periferiaka kai upologistes > tou tmhmatos alla kai osa broume apo gnwstous ) > > 2)Ek8esh bibliwn plhroforikhs apo ta bibliopwlia ths polhs > > 3)Probolh tainiwn me 8ema thn plhroforikh > > 4)Na timhsoume ton ko. Kampourelh :) > > Eimaste anoixtoi se idees kai epishs osoi 8eloun na summetexoun > se auth th diorganwsh einai euprosdektoi. Hdh kapoioi exoun > ekdhlwsei endiaferon kai perimenoume ki allous. Gia na petuxei 8eloume > idees kai ore3h opote osoi pistoi prosel8etai. > > !!!Epeidh h lista tou sfeyds den boleuei gia to suntonismo ths omadas > auths 8a proteina na xrhsimoiphsoume ta newsgroups kai sugkekrimena to > csd.programming( ektos an uparxei allh protash ). Etsi den 8a ginei > mpaxalo kai to ugrads. > > Auta pros to parwn...steilte mail osoi endiaferontai kai mallon thn Trith > 8a kanoume mia sunanthsh gia na arxisoume mias kai o xronos > piezei > > Euxaristw > NB > > p.s Mhn apantatai me proswpika mail alla ugrads h newsgroups > gia na blepoume poioi eimaste... > > > Ego eimai prothymos na vohthiso, arkei vevaia na ginei mia kalh kai syntonismenh prospatheia. Exo epishs na proteino kai mia idea pou efarmostike sthn sygentrosh tis hellug sto irakleio to kalokairi. O kathe endiaferomenos tha mporei na fernei to pc tou kai na tou egathistoume to linux dwrean. Kai nomimo einai ( GNU ;) ) kai kosmo tha ferei ! Epishs poly kalh h idea na parousiasoume kai emeis oti krinoume endiaferon ! Telos kalo tha itan na sygentrothoume kapou syntoma gia na organothoume ! Karapantelakis Athanasios Department of Computer Science, University of Crete karapant at csd.uoc.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Oct 21 18:20:12 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:20:12 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs] Message-ID: <3BD2E7AC.D2343BC3@csd.uoc.gr> Diabaste, edw, to mail tou proedrou tou sulogou foithtwn tou tmhmatos episthmhs upologistwn (profanws edw sto Hrakleio). Se kapoio shmeio anaferetai "3) Paidia apo th hellug", ta opoia, profanws, eimaste emeis!!! 3erei kaneis tipota gi auto to zhthma? An kaneis den 3erei tipota, mhpws 8a prepei n akanonisoume kati? 8a einai, pisteuw, kalh fash. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: BERDOS Nikolaos Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:36:19 +0200 (EET) Size: 2326 URL: From gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr Sun Oct 21 21:37:40 2001 From: gmaravel at her.forthnet.gr (Georgios Maravelias) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:37:40 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs] In-Reply-To: <3BD2E7AC.D2343BC3@csd.uoc.gr> References: <3BD2E7AC.D2343BC3@csd.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <01102121382300.01130@Lato> ti ??? pou ???? pos ??? pote ???? giati ? On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > > > Diabaste, edw, to mail tou proedrou tou sulogou foithtwn tou tmhmatos > episthmhs upologistwn (profanws edw sto Hrakleio). Se kapoio shmeio > anaferetai "3) Paidia apo th hellug", ta opoia, profanws, eimaste > emeis!!! 3erei kaneis tipota gi auto to zhthma? An kaneis den 3erei > tipota, mhpws 8a prepei n akanonisoume kati? 8a einai, pisteuw, kalh > fash. > Received: from wendy.csd.uch.gr (wendy.csd.uch.gr [147.52.16.27]) > by crete.csd.uch.gr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29642; > Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:38:19 +0300 (EET DST) > Organization: > Received: from skopelos.csd.uch.gr ([147.52.16.59]) > by wendy.csd.uch.gr (NAVGW 2.5 bld 89) with SMTP id M2001102112381825315 > ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:38:18 +0300 > Received: from localhost (berdos at localhost) > by skopelos.csd.uch.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02059; > Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:36:19 +0200 (EET) > X-Authentication-Warning: skopelos.csd.uch.gr: berdos owned process doing -bs > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:36:19 +0200 (EET) > From: BERDOS Nikolaos > To: > cc: > Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > > > > Edw kai kairo o sullogos epe3ergazetai thn idea na ginei mia > dihmerida plhroforikhs stis 15-16 Noembriou. > Auto to dihmero 8a ginoun omilies apo: > 1)Ekproswpoi apo etaireies plhroforikhs( H/w , S/W , uphresies ) > 2)Foithtes pou 8eloun na parousiasoun mia nea texnologia h oti > autoi krinoun endiaferon > 3)Paidia apo th hellug > > To bhma 8a einai anoikto se olous. > > Epishs exoume skeftei ta parakatw: > > 1)Mouseio plhroforikhs ( me ta palia periferiaka kai upologistes > tou tmhmatos alla kai osa broume apo gnwstous ) > > 2)Ek8esh bibliwn plhroforikhs apo ta bibliopwlia ths polhs > > 3)Probolh tainiwn me 8ema thn plhroforikh > > 4)Na timhsoume ton ko. Kampourelh :) > > Eimaste anoixtoi se idees kai epishs osoi 8eloun na summetexoun > se auth th diorganwsh einai euprosdektoi. Hdh kapoioi exoun > ekdhlwsei endiaferon kai perimenoume ki allous. Gia na petuxei 8eloume > idees kai ore3h opote osoi pistoi prosel8etai. > > !!!Epeidh h lista tou sfeyds den boleuei gia to suntonismo ths omadas > auths 8a proteina na xrhsimoiphsoume ta newsgroups kai sugkekrimena to > csd.programming( ektos an uparxei allh protash ). Etsi den 8a ginei > mpaxalo kai to ugrads. > > Auta pros to parwn...steilte mail osoi endiaferontai kai mallon thn Trith > 8a kanoume mia sunanthsh gia na arxisoume mias kai o xronos > piezei > > Euxaristw > NB > > p.s Mhn apantatai me proswpika mail alla ugrads h newsgroups > gia na blepoume poioi eimaste... > > > > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Oct 22 15:25:07 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:25:07 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Fwd: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs] In-Reply-To: <200110221028.NAA20618@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: Loipon, 3ekinhsa thn epikoinwnia me to DS tou CSD. Touseipa na mas steiloun (emas sth herlug) ena mail me to ti peripou 8eloun na poume sthn hmerida. Epishs, tous ekana kroush gia to an proti8entai na mas "stegasoun" sto panepisthmio sto epomeno linux fest ths herlug h' kapoia allh sxetikh ekdhlwsh. Pisteuw (basima) oti 8a exoume 8etikes apanthseis kai sta duo. O sulopgos CSD endiaferetai polu na probalete kai na deixnei oti kanei polles drasthriothtes, isws an autes moiazoun, kai kala, gnu-like anarxo-computeradikes-enalaktikes. Opote, mallon 8a xerethsei th sunergasia CSD-herlug. On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > >

> Mia fora ke ena kairo imun stin Kinimatografiki Omada ton TEI. Mathame loipon > oti i Vikelea Vivliothiki exei ena tmima tainiothikis me ntokimanters ga tin > kriti tainies k.l.p. > > Pigame loipon 2 atoma na tus vrume ke na dume an mporume na kanume tipota > mazi. H variestimeni ipallilos mas eipe oti to tmima einai kleisto giati exun > adeia oi 2 ipalliloi, ke oti tha episterpsun apo tin adeia tus se 6 mines. > > Loipon 6 mines meta diavasame arthro se kritiki efimerida gia to en logo > tmima tis Vikeleas. Metaksy allon anefere sta pepragmena gia sinergasia me > tis Kinimatografikes Omades tu Panepistimiu ke ton TEI. Ta paidia apo tin > K.O. tu Panepistimiu, pu tous rotisa, agnoosan pliros tin iparksi tu > tmimatos... >

> > Protrexontas i glosa tis dianeias, mipos exume mia natistoixi katasatsi? > Milise kaneis me ta paidia apo to DS tu csd gia kati sxetiko? > > H protasi pantos akugete kali, esto ke an irthe me kapoio plagio tropo. > Mporei kapoios (Saxturis ?) na dei ke na mas enimerosei sxetika gia to ti > akrivos paizete? Na kanonisei na vrethume me ta paidia na dume leptomeries, > kathos ke ti zitan aytoi apo emas, ke emeis apo aytus? > > Apo tin alli ipirxe mia protasi gia na kanume mia dikia mas imerida sto > panepistimio. An kanume kati tora mipos akirosei ayti thn prospatheia? > > Oi ipoloipoi ti lete? > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > Ki egw tou lew: "Roula, den eis' enta3ei" ----------------------------- /"\ ASCII-Ribbon Campaign \ / """""""""""""""""""" x No HTML or WORD in Mails / \ HTML is for WEB, Word is for Micro$oft. ----------------------------- From karapant at csd.uoc.gr Mon Oct 22 22:16:06 2001 From: karapant at csd.uoc.gr (Karapantelakis Athanasios) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:16:06 +0300 Subject: Dihmerida Pliroforikhs - Tmima Episthmhs Ypologiston Message-ID: <000001c15b2e$00404600$34083493@hal9000> Kat'arxin mpravo se aftin tin prospatheia opoios kai na peire tin protovoulia. Den tha ithela mono na gino melos alla kai na episthso thn prosoxh se ena gegonos pou skeftomaste na kanoume sto tmhma mas Episthmhs h/y sto Irakleio. Skeftomaste na kanoume mia dihmerida pano sthn plhroforikh kai sigoura pistevo h neoydrithissa herlug tha mporouse na voithisei se afto . (install fest, parousiaseis ktlp ) An einai na organothoume kai na syntonistoume. Karapantelakis Athanasios Computer Science Department -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Oct 23 13:34:42 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:34:42 +0300 Subject: Dihmerida Pliroforikhs - Tmima Episthmhs Ypologiston In-Reply-To: <000001c15b2e$00404600$34083493@hal9000> References: <000001c15b2e$00404600$34083493@hal9000> Message-ID: <200110231036.NAA01431@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Mon 22 Oct 2001 22:16, Karapantelakis Athanasios wrote: > Kat'arxin mpravo se aftin tin prospatheia opoios kai na peire tin > protovoulia. > Den tha ithela mono na gino melos alla kai na episthso thn prosoxh se > ena gegonos pou skeftomaste na kanoume sto tmhma mas Episthmhs h/y sto > Irakleio. > Skeftomaste na kanoume mia dihmerida pano sthn plhroforikh kai sigoura > pistevo h neoydrithissa herlug tha mporouse na voithisei se afto . > (install fest, parousiaseis ktlp ) > An einai na organothoume kai na syntonistoume. > > > > Karapantelakis Athanasios > Computer Science Department Se xaireto Thanasi stin omada, pisteuontas oti milao ek merus olon, oloi mas eimaste prothimoi na voithisume, oso mporume ke opu mporume, stin ekdilosi. Pote tha mazeyteite na sizitisete leptomeries na einai parontes ke kapoioi apo emas gia na dume ti akrivos thelete ke pu emeis mporoume na voithisume? Thelete omilies, sizitisi, engatastaseis mixanimaton (Install Fest), gia poso xrono milame, k.l.p. Kati legate gia ena newsgroup. Poio akrivos einai auto ke se poio server, giati den eimaste oloi csd-des? Na se enimeroso mias ke eise neos oti ipirxe skepsi, meta to arketa epitiximeno IF sta TEI, gia mia ekdilosi ston xoro tu Panepistimiu. Oi ipoloipoi tis omados ti lete? Pote lete na vrethume? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From neonakis at aislino.dei.gr Wed Oct 24 08:22:15 2001 From: neonakis at aislino.dei.gr (E.A.Neonakis (PPC Linoperamata Power Station)) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:22:15 +0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?=D8=DC=F7=ED=F9?= 486 References: <000001c15b2e$00404600$34083493@hal9000> <200110231036.NAA01431@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <3BD65007.7030204@aislino.dei.gr> Γειά σας, Ψάχνω να αγοράσω ένα 486 που θα τον χρησιμοποιήσω σαν data logger με SuSE 6.0. Βασικά με ενδιαφέρει το κουτί με το τροφοδοτικό, η μητρική και η μνήμη, τα υπολοιπα τα έχω. Αν κάποιος θέλει να ξεφορτωθεί τον παλιό του 486 αζημίως ας στείλει ένα e-mail, υπόσχομαι ότι θα του φερθώ πολύ καλά, θα του βάλω και ups. Ε.Α:Νεονάκις From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Tue Oct 30 14:35:24 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:35:24 +0200 Subject: Ti trexei? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200110301241.OAA32031@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Re pedia ti trexei? Zeite? Gia ekeini tin ekdilosi sto panepistimio, ti ginete? Tha ginei? Vrethike kanenas me ta paidia? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Tue Oct 30 13:31:02 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:31:02 +0200 (EET) Subject: Ti trexei? In-Reply-To: <200110301241.OAA32031@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <20011030132849.G72349-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Zoume, zoume :) Egw toylaxiston. Egw pantos den exw milhsei me kanenan ektos apo dyo okybentes poy eipa me ton Proedro tou csd, oti kai kala na kanoyme kamia synanthsh na synenwh8oyme. Pantws apo oti 3erw twra ftiaxnoun tis omades pou 8a analaboyn thn diwrganwsh opote molis einai etoimoi 8a milhsoume mazi toys. Lefteris On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > Re pedia ti trexei? Zeite? > Gia ekeini tin ekdilosi sto panepistimio, ti ginete? Tha ginei? Vrethike > kanenas me ta paidia? > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Tue Oct 30 15:03:59 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:03:59 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) Message-ID: Akolou8ei to mail-prosklhsh gia th sunta3h twn omadwn pou 8a kanoun thn hmerida. Opoios 8elei, as paei na dei ti paizei (edw den 8a mporw). An kapoios 8elei na paei kai den 3erei pou einai to grafeio tou DS tou sulogou, mporei na paei sto panepisthmio, sthn Knwwso, kai na rwthsei sto kulikeio. An paei stis 9 para 10 8a eimai ki egw ekei kai 8a tou pw. "I get e-mail, therefore I am". ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:49:00 +0200 (EET) From: BERDOS Nikolaos To: ugrads at csd.uoc.gr Cc: thanos at hellug.gr, Armeniwn , Billy Corgan , POLYHRONakis Mihail , gdimitriou at csd.uoc.gr, Ilias Theoharopoulos , Panagiwths Koutsourakhs , Christos Smaragdakis , Gkabogiannis Lampros , Nick Andrik , LIGOURAS Spyridon Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs Sunanthsh gia th dihmerida plhroforikhs Grafeio D.S Tetarth 31/10 21:00 From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Nov 1 11:00:24 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:00:24 +0200 Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200111011006.MAA04536@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Tue 30 Oct 2001 15:03, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: Paidia lipame, alla ksexastika ke den piga :-( Pige kanenas? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Nov 1 18:13:02 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:13:02 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200111011006.MAA04536@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > On Tue 30 Oct 2001 15:03, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > > Paidia lipame, alla ksexastika ke den piga :-( > Pige kanenas? > Kanenas, all at eipa me ton Proedrokaie ipe oti 8a mas dwsei, mallon, kapoai diale3h na kanoume. Isws mas balei na sthsoumekai PCia se kosmo. epishs, suzhthsame gia to melontiko install fest, kai o proedros einai 8etikos. > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Fri Nov 2 12:00:52 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:00:52 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011102115315.R88136-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Egw pantos poy eixa mhlisei me ton proedro moy eixe pei oti ama den emfanhstei kanenas apo herlug 8a me epairne thlefwno na paw. Afoy den me phre ypo8etw oti phgan kapoioi, Sigoura phge o Saxtouris kai mallon o Venturas. Apo oti exw katalabei, ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai na ginei mia ektenh paroysiasei toy Linux (isws apo dyo atoma taytoxrona) kai fysika mia gnwrhmia me herlug (gia topikoys logous) kai hellug. Twra an ginei kai kapoio install fest den einai tipota, to exoyme 3anakanei, mporoyme na to 3anakanoyme kai fysika ola ta apairaithta (o8ones mouse klp) ta exoyme, as einai kala h G100!!! Epeidh 8a milame se atoma poy 3eroyn unix, 8a prepei na paroyseiasoyme thn Istoria kai thn Filosofia toy linux kai oxi ti einai to /etc h ti kanei to ls:) Peite poioi mporeite na kanete aythn thn paroysia Ta leme... lefteris P.S. O Berdos poy einai cc einai o PROEDROS!!!!!!! On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > > On Tue 30 Oct 2001 15:03, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > > > > Paidia lipame, alla ksexastika ke den piga :-( > > Pige kanenas? > > > > Kanenas, all at eipa me ton Proedrokaie ipe oti 8a mas dwsei, mallon, > kapoai diale3h na kanoume. Isws mas balei na sthsoumekai PCia se kosmo. > epishs, suzhthsame gia to melontiko install fest, kai o proedros einai > 8etikos. > > > -- > > Tsagatakis Giannis > > I have no root and i want to scream! > > > > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am > > From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Fri Nov 2 15:43:34 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:43:34 +0200 Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20011102115315.R88136-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> References: <20011102115315.R88136-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <200111021450.QAA09741@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Fri 02 Nov 2001 12:00, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > Egw pantos poy eixa mhlisei me ton proedro moy eixe pei oti ama den > emfanhstei kanenas apo herlug 8a me epairne thlefwno na paw. Afoy den me > phre ypo8etw oti phgan kapoioi, Sigoura phge o Saxtouris kai mallon o > Venturas. > > Apo oti exw katalabei, ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai na ginei mia > ektenh paroysiasei toy Linux (isws apo dyo atoma taytoxrona) kai fysika > mia gnwrhmia me herlug (gia topikoys logous) kai hellug. Twra an ginei kai > kapoio install fest den einai tipota, to exoyme 3anakanei, mporoyme na to > 3anakanoyme kai fysika ola ta apairaithta (o8ones mouse klp) ta exoyme, as > einai kala h G100!!! Epeidh 8a milame se atoma poy 3eroyn unix, 8a prepei > na paroyseiasoyme thn Istoria kai thn Filosofia toy linux kai oxi ti einai > to /etc h ti kanei to ls:) > > Peite poioi mporeite na kanete aythn thn paroysia > Diladi thelun kati san tis protes omilies san tin dikia mu ke tu Vaggeli. Mporo na miliso ego, tropopoiontas ligo ayto pu eixame kanei sto IF. Ti xrono tha exo? Pote telika tha ginei, gia na apantiso ke gia tin ekdilosi sto TEI Peiraia pu leo na pao? -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Fri Nov 2 16:26:35 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:26:35 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200111021450.QAA09741@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > On Fri 02 Nov 2001 12:00, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > > Egw pantos poy eixa mhlisei me ton proedro moy eixe pei oti ama den > > emfanhstei kanenas apo herlug 8a me epairne thlefwno na paw. Afoy den me > > phre ypo8etw oti phgan kapoioi, Sigoura phge o Saxtouris kai mallon o > > Venturas. > > > > Apo oti exw katalabei, ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai na ginei mia > > ektenh paroysiasei toy Linux (isws apo dyo atoma taytoxrona) kai fysika > > mia gnwrhmia me herlug (gia topikoys logous) kai hellug. Twra an ginei kai > > kapoio install fest den einai tipota, to exoyme 3anakanei, mporoyme na to > > 3anakanoyme kai fysika ola ta apairaithta (o8ones mouse klp) ta exoyme, as > > einai kala h G100!!! Epeidh 8a milame se atoma poy 3eroyn unix, 8a prepei > > na paroyseiasoyme thn Istoria kai thn Filosofia toy linux kai oxi ti einai > > to /etc h ti kanei to ls:) > > > > Peite poioi mporeite na kanete aythn thn paroysia > > > > Diladi thelun kati san tis protes omilies san tin dikia mu ke tu Vaggeli. > Mporo na miliso ego, tropopoiontas ligo ayto pu eixame kanei sto IF. Isws exei shmasia na mhlisoume gia: - Filosofia tou free/open/klp. software (shmeiwsh: to akroathrio einai arketa familiar me to 8ema). - Xrhsh tou linux se development h'/kai business Prepei na 3eroume oti edw milame se epido3ous programmatistes ki oxi monos e xrhstes h' etairies. > Ti xrono tha exo? Pote telika tha ginei, gia na apantiso ke gia tin ekdilosi > sto TEI Peiraia pu leo na pao? > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am From berdos at csd.uoc.gr Sat Nov 10 14:05:35 2001 From: berdos at csd.uoc.gr (BERDOS Nikolaos) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:05:35 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs In-Reply-To: <200111021450.QAA09741@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: Geia sas H dihmerida plhroforikhs trexei kanonika kai h hmeromhnia einai 29-30 Noembriou Suntoma 8a sas apostalei kai to epishmo eggrafo tou sullogou. Oson afora th herlug auth mporei na drasei 'ane3arthta' pairnwntas prwtoboulies mias kai milame gia open festival :) Apla 8a prepei na ka8orisoume to programma twn ekdhlwsewn wste na typw8ei se afises kai loipa diafhmistika entypa. Gia to DS tou Sullogou foithtwn Mperdos Nikos p.s Gia otidhpote epikoinwnhste me mail mazi mou From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Nov 12 13:39:18 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:39:18 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida Message-ID: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Ante re paidia na organothume ke na vrethume. Sinantisi stis 9:00 tin Tetarti stin kuzina tis Popis. An kapoios exei provlima ke den mporei aytin tin imera as steilei mail. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Mon Nov 12 13:31:07 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:31:07 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Loipon, nomizw oti prepei na ginei mia synanthsh thn Paraskeyh to apogeyma. Proteinw stis 7 to apogeyma sto Panepistimio sthn Knosso, gia na deite kai ton xoro kai na to synh8hste :) Opoios den mporei as steilei mail, osoi den steiloyn shmainei oti mporoyn:) ta leme ... lefteris On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > Ante re paidia na organothume ke na vrethume. > > Sinantisi stis 9:00 tin Tetarti stin kuzina tis Popis. > An kapoios exei provlima ke den mporei aytin tin imera as steilei mail. > > > -- > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Nov 12 15:10:12 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:10:12 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> References: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <200111121312.PAA11076@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Mon 12 Nov 2001 13:31, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > Loipon, nomizw oti prepei na ginei mia synanthsh thn Paraskeyh to > apogeyma. Proteinw stis 7 to apogeyma sto Panepistimio sthn Knosso, gia na > deite kai ton xoro kai na to synh8hste :) > > Opoios den mporei as steilei mail, osoi den steiloyn shmainei oti > mporoyn:) > > ta leme ... > lefteris ok. H sinantisi tha ginei knosso. Pes pu akrivos giati den eimaste oloi ekei native. Tora an kapoios thelei na vrethume Tetarti na ta pume as perasei apo tin kuzina tis Popis -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Mon Nov 12 14:13:34 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:13:34 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <200111121312.PAA11076@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <20011112141133.D34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > ok. H sinantisi tha ginei knosso. Pes pu akrivos giati den eimaste oloi ekei > native. 8a dwsoyme ranteboy sto kylikeio. Ypo8etw 3eret oloi poy einai to panepi, exei kai tampela opws anebainete thn knosso poy leei pros panepi kai forth:) > > Tora an kapoios thelei na vrethume Tetarti na ta pume as perasei apo tin > kuzina tis Popis > -- Ama synanth8oume sthn Popi, to pio pi8ano einai na ginei ths popis kai na mhn poyme tpt gia thn imerida:) lefteris > Tsagatakis Giannis > I have no root and i want to scream! > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 12 15:29:35 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:29:35 +0200 (EET) Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) Message-ID: Forward apo to proedro tou CSD. Logika, 8a prepei na ekane bounce kai na mas to ekane forward o listarxos mas, alla fainetai oti o listarxos mas ta 3unei... Opote, sas to kanw forward egw: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:05:35 +0200 (EET) From: BERDOS Nikolaos To: herlug at lists.hellug.gr Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs Geia sas H dihmerida plhroforikhs trexei kanonika kai h hmeromhnia einai 29-30 Noembriou Suntoma 8a sas apostalei kai to epishmo eggrafo tou sullogou. Oson afora th herlug auth mporei na drasei 'ane3arthta' pairnwntas prwtoboulies mias kai milame gia open festival :) Apla 8a prepei na ka8orisoume to programma twn ekdhlwsewn wste na typw8ei se afises kai loipa diafhmistika entypa. Gia to DS tou Sullogou foithtwn Mperdos Nikos p.s Gia otidhpote epikoinwnhste me mail mazi mou From berdos at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 12 17:13:06 2001 From: berdos at csd.uoc.gr (BERDOS Nikolaos) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:13:06 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: grafw re seis proodo paraskeuh kai exw na tre3w kai gio to party NB On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > Loipon, nomizw oti prepei na ginei mia synanthsh thn Paraskeyh to > apogeyma. Proteinw stis 7 to apogeyma sto Panepistimio sthn Knosso, gia na > deite kai ton xoro kai na to synh8hste :) > > Opoios den mporei as steilei mail, osoi den steiloyn shmainei oti > mporoyn:) > > ta leme ... > lefteris > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > Ante re paidia na organothume ke na vrethume. > > > > Sinantisi stis 9:00 tin Tetarti stin kuzina tis Popis. > > An kapoios exei provlima ke den mporei aytin tin imera as steilei mail. > > > > > > -- > > Tsagatakis Giannis > > I have no root and i want to scream! > > > > From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 12 20:35:23 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:35:23 +0200 Subject: Dihmerida Plhroforikhs (fwd) References: Message-ID: <007901c16ba8$ca9ab9a0$3b083493@hp> > Forward apo to proedro tou CSD. Logika, 8a prepei na ekane bounce kai na > mas to ekane forward o listarxos mas, alla fainetai oti o listarxos mas ta > 3unei... Opote, sas to kanw forward egw: Liga gia ton listarxo entaxei? Basika oti mail stelnetai apo mi melos tis listas perimenei na ginei approve apo tous listarxous. Tora esy giati ena mail pou irthe stin lista to ekanes forward xana stin lista den katalava. Tespa. Nikos P.S.Oson afora tin Tetarti den nomizo na mporeso na ertho. From papas at wise.gr Tue Nov 13 00:04:38 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:04:38 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> References: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <20011113000438.52ab023a.papas@wise.gr> Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: paidia, apofasiste pote 8a vre8oume... Ego eimai OK opote 8elisete. apla peite mou na ksero. 8a i8ela na miliso kai ego kai na po dio - tria pramata genikotera. Perissotera otan sinanti8oume. o papas(@wise.gr) tis enorias :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From fuabap at hotmail.com Tue Nov 13 13:52:36 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:52:36 +0000 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meidanis at csd.uoc.gr Tue Nov 13 15:04:09 2001 From: meidanis at csd.uoc.gr (__[D. Meintanis]__) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:04:09 +0200 (EET) Subject: Synanthsh Message-ID: I am off too, Poly douleia ayth thn evdomada, thn epomenh isws.. Dhmhtrhs. ------------------------------------------------- - Living with the immediacy of death - - helps you sort out your priorities in life. - - It helps you to live a less trivial life. - ------------------------------------------------- From jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr Wed Nov 14 14:17:08 2001 From: jgeorgal at csd.uoc.gr (=?X-UNKNOWN?B?w+nc7e3n8iDD5fnx4+Hr3vI=?=) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:17:08 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: Ego den mporo Paraskeyh ...grafo proodo On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > Loipon, nomizw oti prepei na ginei mia synanthsh thn Paraskeyh to > apogeyma. Proteinw stis 7 to apogeyma sto Panepistimio sthn Knosso, gia na > deite kai ton xoro kai na to synh8hste :) > > Opoios den mporei as steilei mail, osoi den steiloyn shmainei oti > mporoyn:) > > ta leme ... > lefteris > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > Ante re paidia na organothume ke na vrethume. > > > > Sinantisi stis 9:00 tin Tetarti stin kuzina tis Popis. > > An kapoios exei provlima ke den mporei aytin tin imera as steilei mail. > > > > > > -- > > Tsagatakis Giannis > > I have no root and i want to scream! > > > > From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Wed Nov 14 13:52:00 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:52:00 +0200 (EET) Subject: =?iso-8859-7?Q?WISE=3A_=D0=C1=D1=D4=D5_-_G-Pal_-_=D6=CF=D5=C3?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?=C1=D1=CF-LOBBY_=28fwd=29?= Message-ID: <20011114135005.B45438-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> H WISE Advanced Solutions kai promotion toy foygaro!! Aaaa, Vaggeli h etairia einai poly mprosta:) Eyge!!! Lefteris P.S. Paizei na mpoume tzampa h na pioyme kanena mpoykalaki sto free an poume oti eimaste apo thn WISE?? -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:34:54 +0200 From: ΦΟΥΓΑΡΟ - LOBBY To: mathstu at edu.uoc.gr Subject: ΠΑΡΤΥ - G-Pal - ΦΟΥΓΑΡΟ-LOBBY Αγαπητοί μας φίλοι ... Σας περιμένουμε την Πέμπτη βράδυ, 15 του μήνα, στο Super Party που θα κάνουμε στο ΦΟΥΓΑΡΟ-LOBBY με guest-DJ τον G-PAL. Και ... εάν δεν μας πιστεύετε ... δείτε και την αφίσα μας στην παρακάτω διεύθυνση: http://www.fougaro.gr/images/g_pal.jpg Σας περιμένουμε !!! Μην λείψει κανείς !!! --------------------------------- Powered By WISE Advanced Solutions http://www.wise.gr/ --------------------------------- From papas at wise.gr Wed Nov 14 16:20:39 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:20:39 +0200 Subject: WISE: ΠΑΡΤΥ - G-Pal - ΦΟΥΓΑΡΟ-LOBBY (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20011114135005.B45438-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> References: <20011114135005.B45438-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <20011114162039.0268c8bc.papas@wise.gr> Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > H WISE Advanced Solutions kai promotion toy foygaro!! > Aaaa, Vaggeli h etairia einai poly mprosta:) Eyge!!! > > Lefteris > > P.S. Paizei na mpoume tzampa h na pioyme kanena mpoykalaki sto free an > poume oti eimaste apo thn WISE?? re paidia, ti na po :) kai ego sti wise doulevo, alla mallon 8a pliroso gia na mpo ;) Pantos 8a pao, oxi gia kanena allo logo, alla giati oloi mou lene GAMATOS-FOVEROS-kai alla koula, kai 8elo na apoktiso dikaiologia gia na vrizo afti ti mousiki argotera. (``Ti kali mousiki kai malakies, ego piga kai akousa kai itan xalia'') xexe :) 8a pane kai alloi? ama einai na ta poume ekei. O papasjunior de 8a er8ei, einai sto C/C++ conferance stin USA :) ase, gami8ikame na tou vgaloume viza. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Wed Nov 14 15:46:39 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:46:39 +0200 (EET) Subject: =?iso-8859-7?Q?Re=3A_WISE=3A_=D0=C1=D1=D4=D5_-_G-Pal_-_=D6=CF?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?=D5=C3=C1=D1=CF-LOBBY_=28fwd=29?= In-Reply-To: <20011114162039.0268c8bc.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20011114154301.C45600-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Egw pantos 8a paw, ektos an tyxei tipota allo:) O papasjunior e3elhsete se megalos coder? Vlepw h ekpaideysh paei mia xara:) Moy fenetai oti ton eida me ton Stallman thn prohgoymenh bdomada se ena conference sthn Callifornia, gia to kernel hacking. Den toy milhsa giati htan aposxolhmenos. Dws toy xeraithsmata apo ton 8eio Lefteri:) Ta leme ston G-PAL (= Giannis Palikarhs) lefteris On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > > > > H WISE Advanced Solutions kai promotion toy foygaro!! > > Aaaa, Vaggeli h etairia einai poly mprosta:) Eyge!!! > > > > Lefteris > > > > P.S. Paizei na mpoume tzampa h na pioyme kanena mpoykalaki sto free an > > poume oti eimaste apo thn WISE?? > > re paidia, ti na po :) kai ego sti wise doulevo, alla mallon 8a pliroso > gia na mpo ;) > Pantos 8a pao, oxi gia kanena allo logo, alla giati oloi mou lene > GAMATOS-FOVEROS-kai alla koula, kai 8elo na apoktiso dikaiologia gia na > vrizo afti ti mousiki argotera. > (``Ti kali mousiki kai malakies, ego piga kai akousa kai itan xalia'') > xexe :) > > 8a pane kai alloi? ama einai na ta poume ekei. O papasjunior de 8a er8ei, > einai sto C/C++ conferance stin USA :) ase, gami8ikame na tou vgaloume > viza. > > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From papas at wise.gr Wed Nov 14 17:49:22 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:49:22 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> References: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <20011114174922.43e5ea34.papas@wise.gr> Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: loipon pedia na to kanoume kata tis 20:00 giati polloi den 8a mporesoun, alloi exoun proodo, alloi exoun ergastirio, ara na to kanoume 20:00 me 20:30. lefteri, 8a ta poume kai apo konta avrio sto fougaro. iparxei leei kai ena parti pou kanei to csd ekeini ti mera stis 23:00 ema8a apo to xafie pou exo, Lefteri giati den mas eipes tipota??? Oute esi koufala xatzikaterpilar eipes tipota... kalaaaaa. (nai, to oneiro mou einai na vro mia compiouterou gomena...). > > Loipon, nomizw oti prepei na ginei mia synanthsh thn Paraskeyh to > apogeyma. Proteinw stis 7 to apogeyma sto Panepistimio sthn Knosso, gia > na > deite kai ton xoro kai na to synh8hste :) > > Opoios den mporei as steilei mail, osoi den steiloyn shmainei oti > mporoyn:) > > ta leme ... > lefteris > -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From papas at wise.gr Wed Nov 14 19:06:28 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:06:28 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <004501c16d2c$0d53d130$cc4e3493@terminus> References: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr> <20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> <20011114174922.43e5ea34.papas@wise.gr> <004501c16d2c$0d53d130$cc4e3493@terminus> Message-ID: <20011114190628.041f2497.papas@wise.gr> "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" wrote: > Den uparxoun gunaikes sto CSD. To epanalambanw gia osous den to 3eroun: > DEN > YPARXOYN GAMHMENES GYNAIKES STO CSD. (sugnwmh gia th xrhsh le3ewn opws > GAMHMENES, alla skefteite oti eimai 6 GAMHMENA xronia se auto to tmhma > kai > 3erw polu kala, apo proswpikh empeiria, oti DEN YPARXOYN GYNAIKES STO > CSD). kai omos o xafies mou mou leei oti exete :) sto eksamino tou einai A-RKE-TES. kai gia tou logou to ali8es, http://WWW.csd.uoc.gr/~hy100/program.html sinolo 46 (olografos: tessarakonta eksi) ginaikes. Apo8eosi i kopelia pou legetai ΝΙΚΟΛΑΪΔΟΥ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΑ (AM:1278) monaxofaiiiiiiii... E, eprepe na to katalavo, BSDas den diloneis? pffff... > > -- > > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > > http://www.wise.gr > > papas at wise.gr > > > -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Nov 15 07:15:59 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:15:59 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida References: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr><20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr><20011114174922.43e5ea34.papas@wise.gr><004501c16d2c$0d53d130$cc4e3493@terminus> <20011114190628.041f2497.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <007c01c16d94$b97192a0$3d083493@hp> > kai omos o xafies mou mou leei oti exete :) > sto eksamino tou einai A-RKE-TES. > kai gia tou logou to ali8es, O xafies sou einai mono 2 mines stin sxoli kai den xerei akoma tipota.An exaireseis to class01 to opoio logo tis allagis tou sustimatos exei veltiomeno pososto se sxesi me alles xronies ta upoloipa eti einai gamise ta. > http://WWW.csd.uoc.gr/~hy100/program.html > > sinolo 46 (olografos: tessarakonta eksi) ginaikes. Apo8eosi i kopelia pou > legetai ΝΙΚΟΛΑΪΔΟΥ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΑ (AM:1278) Auti einai 2 etos pes tou xafie sou. Nikos From hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr Thu Nov 15 07:16:05 2001 From: hatzibod at csd.uoc.gr (NTG21) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:16:05 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida References: <200111121141.NAA10300@venus.cs.teiher.gr><20011112132838.M34993-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> <20011114174922.43e5ea34.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <007d01c16d94$b9cea6c0$3d083493@hp> > iparxei leei kai ena parti pou kanei to csd ekeini ti mera stis 23:00 > ema8a apo to xafie pou exo, Lefteri giati den mas eipes tipota??? > Oute esi koufala xatzikaterpilar eipes tipota... kalaaaaa. Oraia sto leo tora.Opoios goustarei as erthei.To party pantos tha einai gamato.(ta prognostika etsi lene) > (nai, to oneiro mou einai na vro mia compiouterou gomena...). Katse kalaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Nikos From fuabap at hotmail.com Thu Nov 15 12:26:20 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:26:20 +0000 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Fri Nov 16 12:44:43 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:44:43 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011116124034.D53729-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Na 8ymhsw stoys filous katoikoys toy Hrakleioy kai Linuxades oti ta mail ths listas bgainoyn ston "aera" mesa apo thn selida ths mamas hellug. Fantazeste mia prwtoethna toy csd , omorfh, e3ypnh kai me polla prosonta na paei na dei ta mail kai na diabasei ola ayta poy eipa gia tis kopeles toy csd? Nomizete oti meta apo ayto 8a sas milaei? Oxi kyrioi, gia ayto prepei na epanor8wsoyme gia na mhn prosbaloyme kamia! OI KOPELES TOY CSD EINAI OMORFES, E3YPNES, GEMATO XARISMATA KAI ENDIAFERON lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, GEORGE MAMAKIS wrote: > > Baggeli opws kai na to kaneis exoyne dikio gia ayta poy soy lene.mhn > perimeneis na breis kopela se sxolh ypologistwn kai dh wraia.ayta den > ginontai no way.to poly poly na breis kana mpazo apo ayta poy eftiakse o > theos na sthriksei ton kosmo gia na mhn dialythei.kai pali aytes thn > exoyn dei kapos.epomenws h katastash einai dramatikh.plhroforikh rimai > kai ego sta tei kai ksero ti ginetai... > > >From: "NTG21" > >To: Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης , "herlug list" > >Subject: Re: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida > >Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:16:05 +0200 > > > > > iparxei leei kai ena parti pou kanei to csd ekeini ti mera stis 23:00 > > > ema8a apo to xafie pou exo, Lefteri giati den mas eipes tipota??? > > > Oute esi koufala xatzikaterpilar eipes tipota... kalaaaaa. > > > >Oraia sto leo tora.Opoios goustarei as erthei.To party pantos tha einai > >gamato.(ta prognostika etsi lene) > > > > > (nai, to oneiro mou einai na vro mia compiouterou gomena...). > > > >Katse kalaaaaaaaaaaaaa. > > > >Nikos > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From sbolis at freemail.gr Fri Nov 16 21:37:38 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:37:38 +0200 (EET) Subject: oyte mia fwtografia akoma? Message-ID: Papa, perimenoyme na mas steileis fwtografies apo to neo... o typas edw se prolabe ;-) http://narya.online.bg/~voland/linux-pics/jr_programmer.jpg kala na pernate -- Spiros D. Bolis From fuabap at hotmail.com Sat Nov 17 00:50:47 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:50:47 +0000 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From papas at wise.gr Sat Nov 17 17:53:10 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:53:10 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011117175310.72028e2f.papas@wise.gr> "GEORGE MAMAKIS" wrote: > giati lefteri exeis kamia sta ypopsin soy poy na plhrei tis > proypotheseis poy etheses? kai na asxoleitai me linux? kai me thn > hellug? kai na diabazei me tis ores ta mail poy stelnoyme? an nai thn > pantreyomai pes ths, esto kai h monh asxolia ths me linux einai to > fidaki toy kde h toy gnome kai tpt allo :) aaaaan kai pou na kseres... kai na ipirxe, (pou iparxoun toulaxiston 2 apoti eida extes) den girnane na se koitaksoun, pios nomizeis oti eisai ;) Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From sbolis at freemail.gr Sat Nov 17 19:18:42 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:18:42 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: <20011117175310.72028e2f.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > aaaaan kai pou na kseres... kai na ipirxe, (pou iparxoun toulaxiston 2 > apoti eida extes) den girnane na se koitaksoun, pios nomizeis oti eisai ;) > giati, prepei na eisai MSE (mh xesw) gia na se doyn ? ;-) Spiros D. Bolis From papas at wise.gr Sat Nov 17 22:39:32 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:39:32 +0200 Subject: Sinantisi gia tin Imerida In-Reply-To: References: <20011117175310.72028e2f.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20011117223932.7ef7e59a.papas@wise.gr> Spiros Bolis wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης wrote: > > > aaaaan kai pou na kseres... kai na ipirxe, (pou iparxoun toulaxiston 2 > > apoti eida extes) den girnane na se koitaksoun, pios nomizeis oti > eisai ;) > > > giati, prepei na eisai MSE (mh xesw) gia na se doyn ? > > ;-) > > Spiros D. Bolis sti sigekrimeni periptosi, apla oi gnoseis tous einai 5plasies apo tis dikes sou (mou, tou), opote pios nomizeis oti eisai ;) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Nov 19 11:56:50 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:56:50 +0200 (EET) Subject: selida Installfest? Message-ID: Akoma perimenw na steilete tis selides poy thelete na boyn sto /creta Epishs akoma perimenoyme ton papadogiannakh na mas steilei kamia fwtografia -- Spiros D. Bolis From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Nov 19 14:50:34 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:34 +0200 Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi Message-ID: <200112181254.OAA04232@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Tin Paraskeyi, mazeytikame ke ta eipame me ta paidia apo to CSD. Exume 3~4 ores omilion. Apofasistike na milisun oi * Papadogianis Vagellis {Istoria tu Linux, parusiasi tu Helug/herlug} * Tsagatakis Giannis { To makrinari pu eipe sta TEI} * Pitikaris Thodoras {Singritiko linux / Windows} Thelume ke alous... * Kapois na milisei gia securiti (kissandrakis???) * Omilia tu gabriel gia Samba ??? * Kati allo ??? AKOMA ATOMA NA STINOYN MIXANAKIA. EPIEDI OTI EINE NA GINEI EINE NA GINEI AYTH THN EVDOMADA prepei na vrethume oposdipote ayrio. Sinantisi loipon stis 9:00 sta liontaria to vradi tis Tritis. Epeidi o xronow epeigei sto metaksi osoi eine gia omilies duleyoun..... Telos vageli steile to keimeno tu filadiou stin Athina (prepei na eine sto spiti su...) Telos enimerono (gia na sas poroso) oti tha eine ekei ke i fili mas i Micro$oft na kanei parusiasi ton XP. -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 15:29:59 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:29:59 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: <200112181254.OAA04232@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: >Telos enimerono (gia na sas poroso) oti tha eine ekei ke i fili mas i >Micro$oft na kanei parusiasi ton XP. Epitelous, na kai ena sovaro leitourgiko. From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 18:23:06 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:23:06 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > >Telos enimerono (gia na sas poroso) oti tha eine ekei ke i fili mas i > >Micro$oft na kanei parusiasi ton XP. > > Epitelous, na kai ena sovaro leitourgiko. > Afto elega kai ego mexri pou eklisa 15 meres mazi tou (sto PC mou diladi) . den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes katastasis !! Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti einai kai poli "stathera" . From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 18:49:05 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:49:05 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: >den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes >katastasis !! >Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to >pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai >vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! >Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti >einai kai poli "stathera" . Apo thn allh, to KDE 2.2 sto Debian Sid, mou paei mia xara. Ena screenshot: http://users.vtrip-ltd.com/~venturas/ss.png Dystyxws to Linux den exei Office, Photoshop, Dreamweaver kai multimedia player. (To KOffice 8elei douleia akoma, to GIMP einai psilo-xalia gia sobarh douleia, ta Bluefish/Quanta klp einai gia mazoxes, enw gia multimedia xesta). Opote, MacOS X? Nai, alla einai akrivo. From tripol at mhl.tuc.gr Mon Nov 19 18:53:57 2001 From: tripol at mhl.tuc.gr (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:53:57 +0200 Subject: greetings Message-ID: <013201c1711a$c7c465b0$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> hello ppl Vaggelis From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 21:05:26 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:05:26 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: > > >den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes > >katastasis !! > >Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to > >pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai > >vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! > >Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti > >einai kai poli "stathera" . > > Apo thn allh, to KDE 2.2 sto Debian Sid, mou paei mia xara. > Ena screenshot: > http://users.vtrip-ltd.com/~venturas/ss.png > > Dystyxws to Linux den exei Office, Photoshop, > Dreamweaver kai multimedia player. (To KOffice > 8elei douleia akoma, to GIMP einai psilo-xalia > gia sobarh douleia, ta Bluefish/Quanta klp einai > gia mazoxes, enw gia multimedia xesta). > > Opote, MacOS X? Nai, alla einai akrivo. Oxi den nomizo ,malon win98 gia multimedia kai pexnidakia... to office to xrisimopoio spania ,alla den kano pote kati pou den tha mporousa na kano se ena opoiondipote keimenografo sto linux.....opote ta XP pernoun podi afou den kanoun oute afto gia to opoio diafimizonte ... (statherotita) pantos gia 15 meres peripou me pisane na doume kai to epomeno leitourgiko ths MS :) From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 21:22:12 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:22:12 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: >> Opote, MacOS X? Nai, alla einai akrivo. >Oxi den nomizo ,malon win98 gia multimedia kai pexnidakia... Nai, alla to MacOS X ta exei ola auta, kai einai kai UNIX :-) > to office to xrisimopoio spania ,alla den kano pote kati > pou den tha mporousa na kano se ena opoiondipote keimenografo > sto linux..... Dystyxws egw 8elw kai na grafw ellhnika me spell-checking kai apo ola (kai mhn pei kaneis gia ispell -mpoua xa xa xa xa-). E- pishs 8elw tables pou na mporw na formarw me pollous tropous, na mporw na valw eikones sto keimeno me swsta frames, kai pote pote kana chart (as in pie-chart, bar-chart klp) embedded. >den kanoun oute afto gia to opoio diafimizonte ... (statherotita) Xmmm, toso xalia omws? Mhpws htane kammia palia beta? Giati ta periodika kai kala lene oti ta XP einai sta8era kai tetoia. Bebaia ta idia legane kai gia ta Me pou crasharoun synexeia. From padeler at csd.uoc.gr Mon Nov 19 22:15:52 2001 From: padeler at csd.uoc.gr (CoReD) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:15:52 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: > > >> Opote, MacOS X? Nai, alla einai akrivo. > > >Oxi den nomizo ,malon win98 gia multimedia kai pexnidakia... > > Nai, alla to MacOS X ta exei ola auta, kai einai kai UNIX :-) > > > to office to xrisimopoio spania ,alla den kano pote kati > > pou den tha mporousa na kano se ena opoiondipote keimenografo > > sto linux..... > > Dystyxws egw 8elw kai na grafw ellhnika me spell-checking kai > apo ola (kai mhn pei kaneis gia ispell -mpoua xa xa xa xa-). E- > pishs 8elw tables pou na mporw na formarw me pollous tropous, > na mporw na valw eikones sto keimeno me swsta frames, kai pote > pote kana chart (as in pie-chart, bar-chart klp) embedded. > > >den kanoun oute afto gia to opoio diafimizonte ... (statherotita) > > Xmmm, toso xalia omws? Mhpws htane kammia palia beta? Giati > ta periodika kai kala lene oti ta XP einai sta8era kai tetoia. > Bebaia ta idia legane kai gia ta Me pou crasharoun synexeia. > malon afto einai ....poio sigekrimena me tous drivers gia win2000 to TV-tuner mou krashari ta XP otan kano minimize to parathiro tou ,akoma kai apo non-privilaged user kai h eteria sto site tis grafei oti oi drivers aftoi pezoun kai gia XP!!! ...h ekdosh pou exo einai final profesional ...spaspema vevea (anoite) alla den nomizo na exei kati na kanei afto me tin statherothta ektos kai an h microsoft apofasise na valei sta XP kodika aftokatastrofeis enantia sthn piratia :o) ( opos eixane pei oti tha kanane kapoies eteries pexnidion paliotera) From nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr Mon Nov 19 22:21:26 2001 From: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr (Nick Apostolakis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:21:26 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: > > > Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: > > > > >> Opote, MacOS X? Nai, alla einai akrivo. > > > > >Oxi den nomizo ,malon win98 gia multimedia kai pexnidakia... > > > > Nai, alla to MacOS X ta exei ola auta, kai einai kai UNIX :-) > > > > > to office to xrisimopoio spania ,alla den kano pote kati > > > pou den tha mporousa na kano se ena opoiondipote keimenografo > > > sto linux..... > > > > Dystyxws egw 8elw kai na grafw ellhnika me spell-checking kai > > apo ola (kai mhn pei kaneis gia ispell -mpoua xa xa xa xa-). E- > > pishs 8elw tables pou na mporw na formarw me pollous tropous, > > na mporw na valw eikones sto keimeno me swsta frames, kai pote > > pote kana chart (as in pie-chart, bar-chart klp) embedded. > > > > >den kanoun oute afto gia to opoio diafimizonte ... (statherotita) > > > > Xmmm, toso xalia omws? Mhpws htane kammia palia beta? Giati > > ta periodika kai kala lene oti ta XP einai sta8era kai tetoia. > > Bebaia ta idia legane kai gia ta Me pou crasharoun synexeia. > > > > malon afto einai ....poio sigekrimena me tous drivers gia win2000 to > TV-tuner mou krashari ta XP otan kano minimize to parathiro tou ,akoma > kai apo non-privilaged user kai h eteria > sto site tis grafei oti oi drivers aftoi pezoun kai gia XP!!! > ...h ekdosh pou exo einai final profesional ...spaspema vevea (anoite) > alla den nomizo na exei kati na kanei afto me tin statherothta > ektos kai an h microsoft apofasise na valei sta XP kodika aftokatastrofeis > enantia sthn piratia :o) ( opos eixane pei oti tha kanane kapoies eteries > pexnidion paliotera) > egw pali se linux kanw mia xara doulia kai gia multimedia (glame,lame,xmms ktl ) kai me to gimp kai me to openoffice. kai otan goustarw rixnw kai ena latex etsi gia to gamwto tis ypothesis (an kai mallon perissotero xrisimopoiw to latex para to openoffice). egw proswpika den vriskw oute 1 (pia) efaromogi se windows pou na min yparxei se linux etsi wste na kanw to idio kala i kai kalytera tin doulia mou. -------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Apostolakis | | e-mail: nickapos at agriroot.aua.gr n1978 at yahoo.com | | Web Site: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nickapos | -------------------------------------------------------------- From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Mon Nov 19 22:48:57 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:48:57 +0200 Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200111192051.WAA08244@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Mon 19 Nov 2001 22:15, CoReD wrote: Ataka ek TV ekpompi diaplekomenoi : Sovarepsu.... Ore palikaria, edo exume ena aguri tin Pempti. Tha to fame ke tha drosistume h tha to fame ke .............. Ekdilosi exume mposta mas ke uixi (pu lei ke o edika) mia filosofiki sizitisi gia ta rapanakia tis giagias -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Tue Nov 20 00:07:22 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:07:22 +0200 Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi References: Message-ID: <001e01c17146$912ed720$cd4e3493@terminus> Πασχάλης Παντελέρης (CoReD) > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > > >Telos enimerono (gia na sas poroso) oti tha eine ekei ke i fili mas i > > >Micro$oft na kanei parusiasi ton XP. > > > > Epitelous, na kai ena sovaro leitourgiko. > > > > Afto elega kai ego mexri pou eklisa 15 meres mazi tou (sto PC mou diladi) > . > den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes > katastasis !! > Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to > pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai > vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! > Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti > einai kai poli "stathera" . Ma den katalabaineis, Pasxalh? Ta XP sou prosferoun nees empeiries kai sugkinhseis! New XPriences, e3ou kai to "XP". From babis31 at linux.gr Tue Nov 20 02:08:57 2001 From: babis31 at linux.gr (BaBiS F) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:08:57 +0200 Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi References: Message-ID: <001901c17157$94ec1d80$b3f7673e@cosmos> Iparxoun kai Xirotera! Ego ta ebala Se NTFS kai ok douleban kala 10 meroules Meta paw na kanw ena reboot auto itan! meta tin Orea othoni ekinisis ton XP mou ebgazan ena error kai reboot stin psixra! Auto idan exasa 4Gb download pou ekana me kopo apo tin skatogrami spiti. That's all! babis31 at linux.gr babis31 at linuxfreaks.gr ----- Original Message ----- From: "CoReD" To: "Count Zero" Cc: "Tsagatakis Giannis" ; Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi > > > ???????? ?????????? (CoReD) > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Count Zero wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > > > > >Telos enimerono (gia na sas poroso) oti tha eine ekei ke i fili mas i > > >Micro$oft na kanei parusiasi ton XP. > > > > Epitelous, na kai ena sovaro leitourgiko. > > > > Afto elega kai ego mexri pou eklisa 15 meres mazi tou (sto PC mou diladi) > . > den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes > katastasis !! > Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to > pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai > vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! > Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti > einai kai poli "stathera" . > From ace at venus.cs.teiher.gr Tue Nov 20 08:54:05 2001 From: ace at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Sofos Xaris AKA: Ace) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:54:05 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, CoReD wrote: > Afto elega kai ego mexri pou eklisa 15 meres mazi tou (sto PC mou diladi) > . > den nomizo oti mou eixan crashari pote etsi ta 98 kai se toso koufes > katastasis !! > Xthesinovradino pradigma : egrafa sto mirc kai ekei pou kitousa to > pliktrologio antilifthika tin othoni na svini (!) sikono to kefali kai > vlepo oti ta XP bootaran !!! etsi sthn psixra ! > Den ksero an eixe kaneis paromies empiries alla den pistevo pleon oti > einai kai poli "stathera" . ta exw panw apo enamisi mina sto pc mou kai dustixws einai auto pou leei kai h microsoft: best windows ever :> einai polu sta8era kai isws ftaiei pou den ta egkatesthsa me to upgrade option alla ekana install apo thn arxh... anyway :-) auta ta oliga... Ace PS: sorry gia to reply msg (3erei poios) :-) From ace at venus.cs.teiher.gr Tue Nov 20 09:13:31 2001 From: ace at venus.cs.teiher.gr (Sofos Xaris AKA: Ace) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:13:31 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sizitisi Paraskeyis, Omilies & Sinantisi In-Reply-To: <001901c17157$94ec1d80$b3f7673e@cosmos> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, BaBiS F wrote: > Iparxoun kai Xirotera! > Ego ta ebala Se NTFS kai ok douleban kala 10 meroules > Meta paw na kanw ena reboot auto itan! > meta tin Orea othoni ekinisis ton XP mou ebgazan > ena error kai reboot stin psixra! > Auto idan exasa 4Gb download pou ekana me kopo > apo tin skatogrami spiti. > That's all! > > babis31 at linux.gr > babis31 at linuxfreaks.gr > Sou eskisan to partition table evales pali lilo kai sou petaei Autocheck not found :) anyway 98 xp kai linux den sunergazontai (isws na ftaiei pou exw panw apo to 1024 cyl to ntfs auto einai allo) 8a to diapistwsw otan 3anakanw repartitioning me ston kainourio disko mou (elpizw shmera:P) Ace From papas at wise.gr Tue Nov 20 13:53:54 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Παπαδογιαννάκης Βαγγέλης) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:53:54 +0200 Subject: re seis Message-ID: <20011120135354.17ef3fe4.papas@wise.gr> den afinete tis malakies na doume ti 8a ginei me to fest? oi apopseis sas gia ta windows metaksi sas, eisaste off-topic Perimeno simetoxi simera sti sinantisi, min tixon kai eimai pali ego kai o giannis kai o 8odoris... tafta. -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From vtrip at grecian.net Tue Nov 20 13:58:46 2001 From: vtrip at grecian.net (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:58:46 +0200 Subject: re seis References: <20011120135354.17ef3fe4.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <007901c171ba$c2ce24b0$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> gia pote kai poy lete na to kanonisete ? Vaggelis From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Tue Nov 20 13:01:49 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:01:49 +0200 (EET) Subject: Ekdhlwsh!!! Message-ID: <20011120125312.O73269-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Sobareyteite. Arxizoyme:) 1) 8a ginei ena mini installfest thn pempth kai paraskeyh sto panepi taytoxrona me tis omhlies. Xreiazomaste 5-6 atoma gia na kanoyn ayth thn doyleia. Kanonhsa hdh gia o8ones kai keybords+mouse, o Xatzhcaterpilar einai ypey8hnos gia ayta. 8a synenoh8w egw mazi toy gia to poy 8a ta baloyme kai pws 8a ta koybalhsoyme. To dist poy 8a bazoume 8a einai kyriws Mandrake ektos an zhthsoyn kati allo. Exoume cd apo thn prohgoymenh fora? 2) Omhlies analambanei Pappas kai Giannhs poy 8a ths poume me leptomereies shmera to brady gia ayto be there. 3) Exw fyladeia kai tetoia apo thn prohgoymenh fora opoy kai 8a ta ferw. 4) Afisa akoma den exw dei alla logika 8a thn etoimazoyn oi CSDades (apo oti 3erw 8a leei oti 8a einai kai h hellug ekei.) 5) Poios exei ths formes pou shmplhrwnan gia to sthshmo? opoios exei typwnei mia kai bgazei fototypeies. 6) Tpt allo den mporw na skeftw pros to parwn :) lefteris P.S. Kante reply gia oti parapanw P.S.2 Vtrip: Kalwshr8es! Milame gia Pempth kai Paraskeyh sthn Knwsso poy 8a kanei mia ekdhlwsh to CSD :) Esy eisai Xania twra? From vtrip at grecian.net Tue Nov 20 14:15:27 2001 From: vtrip at grecian.net (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:27 +0200 Subject: Ekdhlwsh!!! References: <20011120125312.O73269-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <00b201c171bf$5f02dd40$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> nai xania eimai... pity kai elega na er8w sabbato iraklio Vaggelis > P.S.2 Vtrip: Kalwshr8es! Milame gia Pempth kai Paraskeyh sthn Knwsso poy > 8a kanei mia ekdhlwsh to CSD :) Esy eisai Xania twra? From sbolis at freemail.gr Wed Nov 21 13:38:51 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:38:51 +0200 Subject: Ekdhlwsh!!! References: <20011120125312.O73269-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: <3BFB924B.ADB38D03@freemail.gr> Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > Sobareyteite. > > Arxizoyme:) > > 6) Tpt allo den mporw na skeftw pros to parwn :) Eytyxws poy me phrate thlefwno Kyriakatika gia na moy peite gia tis selides kai to banneraki.. An milame gia Pempth kai Paraskeyh (ayrio kai methayrio) aplws ta kaname mantara.. Aplws epibebaiwste to bas kai bei kanena keimenaki poy tha steilete Opws kai na exei, kalh tyxh perimenoyme nea sas Ayta.. From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Wed Nov 21 12:46:29 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:46:29 +0200 (EET) Subject: Ekdhlwsh!!! In-Reply-To: <3BFB924B.ADB38D03@freemail.gr> Message-ID: <20011121124511.F77039-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Spiros Bolis wrote: > > > Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > > > Sobareyteite. > > > > Arxizoyme:) > > > > 6) Tpt allo den mporw na skeftw pros to parwn :) > Eytyxws poy me phrate thlefwno Kyriakatika gia na moy peite gia tis > selides kai to banneraki.. > > An milame gia Pempth kai Paraskeyh (ayrio kai methayrio) aplws ta kaname > mantara.. Eythxws!!! Milame gia thn allh bdomada!!!! To metaferan apo oti katalaba dioti den prolabenan kai ta paidia apo to csd. Ara exoyme olo to xrono na ta organosoyme mia xara. Egw shmera feygw kai erxomai A8hna, ara logika 8a ta poyme kai apo konta. lefteris > > Aplws epibebaiwste to bas kai bei kanena keimenaki poy tha steilete > > > > Opws kai na exei, kalh tyxh > perimenoyme nea sas > > > Ayta.. > From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Wed Nov 21 14:16:17 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:16:17 +0200 Subject: Patera mas vasili Message-ID: <200112201521.RAA00286@venus.cs.teiher.gr> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20011122.html -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Wed Nov 21 13:57:30 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:57:30 +0200 Subject: Ekdhlwsh!!! In-Reply-To: <3BFB924B.ADB38D03@freemail.gr> References: <20011120125312.O73269-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> <3BFB924B.ADB38D03@freemail.gr> Message-ID: <200112201521.RAA00281@venus.cs.teiher.gr> On Wed 21 Nov 2001 13:38, Spiros Bolis wrote: > Opws kai na exei, kalh tyxh > perimenoyme nea sas > > > Ayta.. H ekdilosi metatethike gia tin alli evdomada. Loipon opoioi eine na voithisun as dosun simeia zois, na kserume ti dinameis tha exume -- Tsagatakis Giannis I have no root and i want to scream! From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Wed Nov 21 21:49:44 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:49:44 +0200 (EET) Subject: afisa dihmeridas (fwd) Message-ID: 8a ginei? Egw tou eipa NAI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:25:49 +0200 (EET) From: BERDOS Nikolaos To: POLYHRONakis Mihail Cc: Armeniwn Subject: afisa dihmeridas bale kai linux-installation sthn afisa saxtouri etsi na to baloume?8a ginei telika linux installation etsi? NB From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Thu Nov 22 22:59:16 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:59:16 +0200 Subject: 1h Dihmerida plhroforikhs Message-ID: <005501c17398$8f061bd0$26083493@terminus> > 1h Dihmerida Plhroforikhs > ------------------------- > > > 29-30 Noembriou Hrakleio > Sullogos Foithtwn Episthmhs Ypologistwn > Panepisthmiou Krhths > > Ktiria Knwssou( Amf. B ) > > -Aponomh timhtikhs plaketas ston K.Kampourelh > gia thn prosfora tou sto tmhma > > -omilies > .Microsoft .Intracom > .OteNet .Pleusis > .ForthNet .Virtual Trip > .Herlug .Emporiko Epim/rio(neanikh epixeirhmatikothta) > > > -ek8esh bibliwn plhroforikhs > > -mouseio plhroforikhs > > -enhmerwsh gia nea proionta kai uphresies > > -proboles tainiwn > > -diagwnismoi / happenings > > > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Nov 25 18:06:00 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:06:00 +0200 Subject: Fw: dihmerida Message-ID: <008501c175cb$13813410$10083493@terminus> Geia xara. Parakatw blepete to mail tou Proedrou (enas einai o proedros - tou tmhmatos episthmhs upologistwn) sxetika me th dihmerida plhroforikhs. Labete upoyh sas oti telika 8a kanoume AKRIBWS 2 (duo) OMILIES, tis wres-meres pou leei kai parakatw, apo kanena 20-lepto h ka8e mia. Epishs, an 8eloume, mporoume na sthsoume ap' e3w kati san periptero. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BERDOS Nikolaos" To: "Armeniwn" Cc: "Count Zero" ; "HATZIBODozis Nikolaos" Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: dihmerida > > oi omilies th herlug exoun oristei gia > pempth 6:00 kai paraskeuh 5:30 kata > to kleismo ths dihmeridas. > > epishs 8a xreiastw th boi8eia ths herlug gia > na topo8eth8oun kapoies afises... > > > From papas at wise.gr Tue Nov 27 18:21:31 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:21:31 +0200 Subject: Fw: dihmerida In-Reply-To: <008501c175cb$13813410$10083493@terminus> References: <008501c175cb$13813410$10083493@terminus> Message-ID: <20011127182131.78d7bf73.papas@wise.gr> "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" wrote: > Geia xara. Parakatw blepete to mail tou Proedrou (enas einai o proedros > tou tmhmatos episthmhs upologistwn) sxetika me th dihmerida > plhroforikhs. > Labete upoyh sas oti telika 8a kanoume AKRIBWS 2 (duo) OMILIES, tis > wres-meres pou leei kai parakatw, apo kanena 20-lepto h ka8e mia. > > Epishs, an 8eloume, mporoume na sthsoume ap' e3w kati san periptero. > an einai 2 omilies, pioi 8a tis kanoun? Gianni - thodori, lambanete? steilte papers. sintoma, mas piezei o xronos. Gia to periptero, den ksero poioi einai diate8imenoi na ka8isoun. Ego mporo na ka8iso gia kapoies ores. Episis, ti 8a exoume se afto to periptero? an exoume revma, na valoume kana PC na paizei tipota? GRIGORAAAAAAAA -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Tue Nov 27 19:50:41 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:50:41 +0200 (EET) Subject: Fw: dihmerida In-Reply-To: <20011127182131.78d7bf73.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" wrote: > > Geia xara. Parakatw blepete to mail tou Proedrou (enas einai o proedros > > tou tmhmatos episthmhs upologistwn) sxetika me th dihmerida > > plhroforikhs. > > Labete upoyh sas oti telika 8a kanoume AKRIBWS 2 (duo) OMILIES, tis > > wres-meres pou leei kai parakatw, apo kanena 20-lepto h ka8e mia. > > > > Epishs, an 8eloume, mporoume na sthsoume ap' e3w kati san periptero. > > > > an einai 2 omilies, pioi 8a tis kanoun? > Gianni - thodori, lambanete? > > steilte papers. > > sintoma, mas piezei o xronos. > > Gia to periptero, den ksero poioi einai diate8imenoi na ka8isoun. > > Ego mporo na ka8iso gia kapoies ores. > Episis, ti 8a exoume se afto to periptero? an exoume revma, na valoume > kana PC na paizei tipota? 8a exei reuma. Ypoti8etai oti8a kaname instalations se auto to periptero... > GRIGORAAAAAAAA > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Wed Nov 28 10:46:01 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:46:01 +0200 (EET) Subject: Fw: dihmerida In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011128104234.L12978-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Kyrioi to install fest fysika kai 8a ginei, ase pou exei hdh mpei sthn afisa:) Thn Pempth kai paraskeyh stis 12 prepei OLOI (osoi mporeitai dhladh) na eiste e3w apo to kylhkeio sthn knosso. Prepei na eimaste 5 atoma minimum. Exw kanonisei mhxanhmata, trapezia, reyma kai isws na exoume kai diktyo. prepei na tonisw, YPARXEI PROBLHMA ATOMWN. Prepei na er8ete oso pio polloi mporeite. Kai egw grafw proodoys ( 2 thn Kyriakh) alla oloi prepei na kanoyme 8ysies:) Osoi perissoteroi toso ligoterh wra 8a ka8omaste, gia ayto to 3analew ELATE!!!! lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > > > "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" wrote: > > > Geia xara. Parakatw blepete to mail tou Proedrou (enas einai o proedros > > > tou tmhmatos episthmhs upologistwn) sxetika me th dihmerida > > > plhroforikhs. > > > Labete upoyh sas oti telika 8a kanoume AKRIBWS 2 (duo) OMILIES, tis > > > wres-meres pou leei kai parakatw, apo kanena 20-lepto h ka8e mia. > > > > > > Epishs, an 8eloume, mporoume na sthsoume ap' e3w kati san periptero. > > > > > > > an einai 2 omilies, pioi 8a tis kanoun? > > Gianni - thodori, lambanete? > > > > steilte papers. > > > > sintoma, mas piezei o xronos. > > > > Gia to periptero, den ksero poioi einai diate8imenoi na ka8isoun. > > > > Ego mporo na ka8iso gia kapoies ores. > > Episis, ti 8a exoume se afto to periptero? an exoume revma, na valoume > > kana PC na paizei tipota? > > 8a exei reuma. Ypoti8etai oti8a kaname instalations se auto to > periptero... > > > GRIGORAAAAAAAA > > > > -- > > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > > http://www.wise.gr > > papas at wise.gr > > > > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am > > From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Wed Nov 28 15:07:13 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:07:13 +0200 (EET) Subject: [csdlista] Linus and the REAL desktop... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Nikos Venturas wrote: > See also: http://bugs.kde.org/db/35/35119.html Sto parapanw mail tou megalou, mporoume epishs na diavasoume oti thn autobiografia tou (bghke fetos), me titlo "Just for fun", thn egrapse: I just happen to test with the sources for the manuscript for "Just for Fun" (which was done on a iMac with Word) se iMac me MS Word! Ara, osoi lene oti to Linux den exei anagkh apo enan kalo word processor, diapseudontai apo ton idio ton Megalo. From venturas at prolog.vtrip-ltd.com Wed Nov 28 17:12:18 2001 From: venturas at prolog.vtrip-ltd.com (Nikos Venturas) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:12:18 +0200 (EET) Subject: Linus and the REAL desktop... Message-ID: Perhaps one of the more interesting exchanges of the week occurred on the KDE bug tracking system between Linus Torvalds and David Faure regarding problems with fonts in KWord. Not only is Linus a model bug reporter who provides all relevant details, results of various experiments he conducts in an attempt to understand the bug and well thought out suggestions for improvements and fixes, he also uses CVS HEAD! It seems Linus is only content on the bleeding edge as he admitted, "I've been on the CVS tree for the last year or so now - I stayed on the 2.2.x branch for a while to see it stabilize, but it's gotten boring lately so I went back to the head last week.." See also: http://bugs.kde.org/db/35/35119.html From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Fri Nov 30 21:10:08 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:10:08 +0200 (EET) Subject: Victory unfolding? ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: H M$ leei edw oti ekane pisw sto proteinomeno systhma Passport, kai anti gi'autou 8a to riksei sto Kerberos. Microsoft announced last week that they would move Passport to Kerberos and that they would fold back all the changes to Kerberos, part of their announcements also included things like a federated Kerberos system where third parties could plug into the federated namespace. (...) From papas at wise.gr Sat Dec 1 00:56:44 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:56:44 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis Message-ID: <002e01c179f2$4bd3c1e0$0200a8c0@wise.gr> Ta sigxaritiria mou stous kirious pou organosan ti diimerida pliroforikis sto panepistimio Kritis. Mas eixan taksei toulaxiston 2 omilies, mia gia ka8e mera. Tin proti mera, kai eno perimename na milisoume defteroi sti seira, mas trenaran gia ``se ligo''. Ypomoni leo. Telika eixe paei 8:30 kai akoma milouse kapoios, opote eipan gia tin epomeni mera. Erxetai i epomeni mera, kai pali mexri tis 5:30 - 6:00 se ligo kai se ligo, opote kai apofasisame na figoume, eixane kanei oloi tis omilies tous ektos apo MANTEPSTE PIOUS. Stis 5:30 pantos pou to afisame to 8ema mia kai den mporeis na sinenoei8eis me (simpliroste) itan na milisoun alloi treis (apo tin idia etairia), kai meta emeis. Opote katalabainete giati figame... aftoi (oxoi oloi) pou eixan tin tixi kai milisan: 1. microsoft 2. forthnet 3. emporiko epimelitirio 4. OTE 5. intracom kai kati etairies pou eixan idri8ei apo to panepistimio Se genikes grammes, oi omilies OLON ma OLON itan: ``Afto exoume kanei, afto kanoume, ANTE, TELEIONETE TO UNI NA SAS PROSLABOUME''. Ta kaka einai: a. oti 3 atoma eixan ksenixtisei gia na ftiaksoun tis parousiaseis tous. b. Oi foitites, H8ELAN na mas akousoun. (afto fanike otan ti proti mera mas perimenan kai apogoiteftikan otan tous ipan avrio) g. 3 atoma exasan 3 ergatoimeres, gia na parevriskontai stin giortoula tous stand-by pote 8a tous er8ei na tous afisoun na milisoun Gia tin istoria kai mono, oi omilies itan: --- Papadogiannakis Vagelis: Istoria tou linux, perigrafi ton dinatotiton tou, Istoria / status tis hellug kai tis herlug (heraclion lug) Pitikaris 8odoris: Oikonomotexniki meleti egatastasis/xrisis GNU programmaton se sigrisi me Proprietary Tsagatakis Giannis: Open Source Movement. Copyrights / Trademarks. Bottom line: EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro se tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades pou emplakikame stin istoria afti. DESMEVOMAI mexri avrio na exo gnostopoieisei ena URL apo opou 8a mporoun na katevasoun tis parousiaseis aftes osoi i8elan alla den kataferan telika na tis doun. APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. Papadogiannakis Vagelis From papas at hera.wise.gr Sat Dec 1 13:57:37 2001 From: papas at hera.wise.gr (papas at hera.wise.gr) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:57:37 +0200 Subject: Victory unfolding? ... Message-ID: <200112011157.fB1Bvbor016776@hera.wise.gr> Kalo, alla an de doseis URL na to diavaso monos mou, de se pistevo me tipota :) 8a itan poli megali ita gia ti micro$oft afti, apokleietai na kanei kati tetpoio. Epsaksa sto site tis M$ gia passport+kerberos alla evgale ta asxeta results ara pistevo oti telika einai troll :) From vtrip at grecian.net Sat Dec 1 14:44:08 2001 From: vtrip at grecian.net (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:44:08 +0200 (EET) Subject: Victory unfolding? ... Message-ID: <200112011244.fB1Ci8514703@macedonia.mhl.tuc.gr>  ayto den einai tipote to asteio 8a einai na to yio8ethsei ws standar kai meta na to parousiazei diko ths proion to opoio meta apo liga xronia 8a akolou8hsei aytonomh poreia kai den 8a exei terastia sxesh me to arxiko specification :) h m$ einai manoula se kati tetoia ! Vaggelis papas at hera.wise.gr wrote: > Kalo, alla an de doseis URL na to diavaso monos mou, de se pistevo me tipota :) > 8a itan poli megali ita gia ti micro$oft afti, apokleietai na kanei kati tetpoio. > Epsaksa sto site tis M$ gia passport+kerberos alla evgale ta asxeta results ara pistevo oti telika einai troll :) > From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Sat Dec 1 19:18:26 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Bug Powder) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 19:18:26 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis References: <002e01c179f2$4bd3c1e0$0200a8c0@wise.gr> Message-ID: <010401c17a8c$34831320$2b083493@stud.her> To kanw forward sto ugrads. Paidia den einai swsta pragmata auta, den mporeis na les ston allo na boh8hsei kai meta na ton gamas... Den 3erw poios htan ypeu8ynos, alla eprepe na ginei kalyterh organwsh twn orwn. To an o allos einai apo mourath etairia h' ypourgeio den shmainei oti prepei kai na parei thn proteraiothta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" To: "Board HELLUG" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > Ta sigxaritiria mou stous kirious pou organosan ti diimerida pliroforikis > sto panepistimio Kritis. > > Mas eixan taksei toulaxiston 2 omilies, mia gia ka8e mera. > Tin proti mera, kai eno perimename na milisoume defteroi sti seira, mas > trenaran gia ``se ligo''. Ypomoni leo. > Telika eixe paei 8:30 kai akoma milouse kapoios, opote eipan gia tin epomeni > mera. > > Erxetai i epomeni mera, kai pali mexri tis 5:30 - 6:00 se ligo kai se ligo, > opote kai apofasisame na figoume, eixane kanei oloi tis omilies tous ektos > apo MANTEPSTE PIOUS. > > Stis 5:30 pantos pou to afisame to 8ema mia kai den mporeis na sinenoei8eis > me (simpliroste) itan na milisoun alloi treis (apo tin idia etairia), kai > meta emeis. Opote katalabainete giati figame... > > aftoi (oxoi oloi) pou eixan tin tixi kai milisan: > > 1. microsoft > 2. forthnet > 3. emporiko epimelitirio > 4. OTE > 5. intracom > kai kati etairies pou eixan idri8ei apo to panepistimio > > Se genikes grammes, oi omilies OLON ma OLON itan: ``Afto exoume kanei, afto > kanoume, ANTE, TELEIONETE TO UNI NA SAS PROSLABOUME''. > > Ta kaka einai: > a. oti 3 atoma eixan ksenixtisei gia na ftiaksoun tis parousiaseis tous. > b. Oi foitites, H8ELAN na mas akousoun. (afto fanike otan ti proti mera mas > perimenan kai apogoiteftikan otan tous ipan avrio) > g. 3 atoma exasan 3 ergatoimeres, gia na parevriskontai stin giortoula tous > stand-by pote 8a tous er8ei na tous afisoun na milisoun > > Gia tin istoria kai mono, oi omilies itan: > --- > Papadogiannakis Vagelis: Istoria tou linux, perigrafi ton dinatotiton tou, > Istoria / status tis hellug kai tis herlug (heraclion lug) > > Pitikaris 8odoris: Oikonomotexniki meleti egatastasis/xrisis GNU > programmaton se sigrisi me Proprietary > > Tsagatakis Giannis: Open Source Movement. Copyrights / Trademarks. > > Bottom line: > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro se > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades pou > emplakikame stin istoria afti. > > DESMEVOMAI mexri avrio na exo gnostopoieisei ena URL apo opou 8a mporoun na > katevasoun tis parousiaseis aftes osoi i8elan alla den kataferan telika na > tis doun. > > APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis > > From papas at wise.gr Sat Dec 1 23:48:49 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 23:48:49 +0200 Subject: linux presentations Message-ID: <20011201234849.096859c9.papas@wise.gr> sto http://baza.source.gr/presentations, iparxoun merikes parousiaseis / omilies pou xrisimopoieisame sto install festival poy kaname stin kriti ton iouni kai i torini diki mou pou den egine. Molis mou dosoun tis alles 8a tis valo kai aftes. An 8elei kanenas apo to csd na tis dei, as paei na tis katevasei kai as mas sigxorisei pou den tou ta eipame oi idioi. Ventoura, ti dikia sou den tin eixa apo to proigoumeno IF. mstelio, exo kai ti diki sou, apla perimeno na mou doseis to OK, kai amesos tin anevazo. Na tin anevaso? -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From berdos at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 10:36:04 2001 From: berdos at csd.uoc.gr (BERDOS Nikolaos) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:36:04 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <010401c17a8c$34831320$2b083493@stud.her> Message-ID: Ta paidia exoun apoluto dikio mias kai oles oi etaireies parabiasan to xrono omilias kai anti gia mish wra oloi to ekanan 1 wra. Auto eixe san sunepeia na mhn milhsoun tnn prwth mera mias kai trabh3e polu kai arghse. Oson afora th deuterh mera na pw oti h eu8unh den einai dikh mas.Th deuterh mera sunebhsan tragelafika pragmata. Oi omilies anti na arxisoun stis 1:00 arxisan stis 2:15 Akurw8hke h prwth omilia mias kai o an8rwpos den mporouse na perimenei allo.Proswpika ntraphka gia to xali mas Me ena xalazi kophke to reuma kai estaze apo pantou to amfi8eatro.O omilhths ths Intracom ka8otan opou den brexotan!!! Kai to finale htan oti stis 7:00 pou teleiwsame anakoinwsame th lh3h ths dihmeridas kratwntas enan anapthra sta xeria gia na fainomaste... O sullogos exei olh th dia8esh na organwsei ena linux festibal kai na ginetai auto ka8e xrono.Elpizw oi sun8hkes tote na einai kai pio an8rwpines. NB On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Bug Powder wrote: > To kanw forward sto ugrads. > > Paidia den einai swsta pragmata auta, den mporeis na les > ston allo na boh8hsei kai meta na ton gamas... > > Den 3erw poios htan ypeu8ynos, alla eprepe na ginei kalyterh > organwsh twn orwn. > > To an o allos einai apo mourath etairia h' ypourgeio den shmainei > oti prepei kai na parei thn proteraiothta... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" > To: "Board HELLUG" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:56 AM > Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > > > > Ta sigxaritiria mou stous kirious pou organosan ti diimerida pliroforikis > > sto panepistimio Kritis. > > > > Mas eixan taksei toulaxiston 2 omilies, mia gia ka8e mera. > > Tin proti mera, kai eno perimename na milisoume defteroi sti seira, mas > > trenaran gia ``se ligo''. Ypomoni leo. > > Telika eixe paei 8:30 kai akoma milouse kapoios, opote eipan gia tin > epomeni > > mera. > > > > Erxetai i epomeni mera, kai pali mexri tis 5:30 - 6:00 se ligo kai se > ligo, > > opote kai apofasisame na figoume, eixane kanei oloi tis omilies tous ektos > > apo MANTEPSTE PIOUS. > > > > Stis 5:30 pantos pou to afisame to 8ema mia kai den mporeis na > sinenoei8eis > > me (simpliroste) itan na milisoun alloi treis (apo tin idia etairia), kai > > meta emeis. Opote katalabainete giati figame... > > > > aftoi (oxoi oloi) pou eixan tin tixi kai milisan: > > > > 1. microsoft > > 2. forthnet > > 3. emporiko epimelitirio > > 4. OTE > > 5. intracom > > kai kati etairies pou eixan idri8ei apo to panepistimio > > > > Se genikes grammes, oi omilies OLON ma OLON itan: ``Afto exoume kanei, > afto > > kanoume, ANTE, TELEIONETE TO UNI NA SAS PROSLABOUME''. > > > > Ta kaka einai: > > a. oti 3 atoma eixan ksenixtisei gia na ftiaksoun tis parousiaseis tous. > > b. Oi foitites, H8ELAN na mas akousoun. (afto fanike otan ti proti mera > mas > > perimenan kai apogoiteftikan otan tous ipan avrio) > > g. 3 atoma exasan 3 ergatoimeres, gia na parevriskontai stin giortoula > tous > > stand-by pote 8a tous er8ei na tous afisoun na milisoun > > > > Gia tin istoria kai mono, oi omilies itan: > > --- > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis: Istoria tou linux, perigrafi ton dinatotiton tou, > > Istoria / status tis hellug kai tis herlug (heraclion lug) > > > > Pitikaris 8odoris: Oikonomotexniki meleti egatastasis/xrisis GNU > > programmaton se sigrisi me Proprietary > > > > Tsagatakis Giannis: Open Source Movement. Copyrights / Trademarks. > > > > Bottom line: > > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro se > > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades pou > > emplakikame stin istoria afti. > > > > DESMEVOMAI mexri avrio na exo gnostopoieisei ena URL apo opou 8a mporoun > na > > katevasoun tis parousiaseis aftes osoi i8elan alla den kataferan telika na > > tis doun. > > > > APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. > > > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis > > > > > > From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 12:59:20 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:59:20 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <002e01c179f2$4bd3c1e0$0200a8c0@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. > Poio panepisthmio? Th diorganwsh thn eixe analabei o Sullogos foithtwn, opote autos ferei thn eu8unh. Se autous prepei na paei h diamarturia. From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 13:35:26 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:35:26 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer> Message-ID: Pantws, o Sulogos den exei zhthsei, akoma ,sugnwmh gia thn APARADEKTH sumperifora tou. On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Lampros wrote: > Koitaxte na deite.... > Asfalws kai opoio problhma yparxe den egine epitides... > > Paradexomai oti eprepe na mpei orio sto xrono gia thn kathe etairia/ omada > pou hthele na milhsei... > > Otan den yparxei auto logiko einai na traba o kathenas to sxoinh oso thelei > kai na ginete mperdema. > > Omos mhn xehname oti htan prospatheia foithtwn kai ekdhlwsh se tetoia > ektash htan h 1h fora pou diorganwthikes apo foithtes > > Kai kata th gnwmh mou eginan para pola apo ton proedro kai osous allous > bohthhsan > kai axizoun sygxarhrhria. > > Alla ayto to : > > > > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro > se > > > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades > pou > > > emplakikame stin istoria afti. > > Sigoura den kanei ta pragmata kalutera :) > Proteinw na kanonistei wra kai mera....akoma kai prin tis giortes kai > na erthoun ta paidia apo th HerLug na parousiasoun th douleia toys... > > > > > Lampros Gkabogiannhs > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bug Powder" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > > > > To kanw forward sto ugrads. > > > > Paidia den einai swsta pragmata auta, den mporeis na les > > ston allo na boh8hsei kai meta na ton gamas... > > > > Den 3erw poios htan ypeu8ynos, alla eprepe na ginei kalyterh > > organwsh twn orwn. > > > > To an o allos einai apo mourath etairia h' ypourgeio den shmainei > > oti prepei kai na parei thn proteraiothta... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" > > To: "Board HELLUG" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:56 AM > > Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > > > > > > > Ta sigxaritiria mou stous kirious pou organosan ti diimerida > pliroforikis > > > sto panepistimio Kritis. > > > > > > Mas eixan taksei toulaxiston 2 omilies, mia gia ka8e mera. > > > Tin proti mera, kai eno perimename na milisoume defteroi sti seira, mas > > > trenaran gia ``se ligo''. Ypomoni leo. > > > Telika eixe paei 8:30 kai akoma milouse kapoios, opote eipan gia tin > > epomeni > > > mera. > > > > > > Erxetai i epomeni mera, kai pali mexri tis 5:30 - 6:00 se ligo kai se > > ligo, > > > opote kai apofasisame na figoume, eixane kanei oloi tis omilies tous > ektos > > > apo MANTEPSTE PIOUS. > > > > > > Stis 5:30 pantos pou to afisame to 8ema mia kai den mporeis na > > sinenoei8eis > > > me (simpliroste) itan na milisoun alloi treis (apo tin idia etairia), > kai > > > meta emeis. Opote katalabainete giati figame... > > > > > > aftoi (oxoi oloi) pou eixan tin tixi kai milisan: > > > > > > 1. microsoft > > > 2. forthnet > > > 3. emporiko epimelitirio > > > 4. OTE > > > 5. intracom > > > kai kati etairies pou eixan idri8ei apo to panepistimio > > > > > > Se genikes grammes, oi omilies OLON ma OLON itan: ``Afto exoume kanei, > > afto > > > kanoume, ANTE, TELEIONETE TO UNI NA SAS PROSLABOUME''. > > > > > > Ta kaka einai: > > > a. oti 3 atoma eixan ksenixtisei gia na ftiaksoun tis parousiaseis tous. > > > b. Oi foitites, H8ELAN na mas akousoun. (afto fanike otan ti proti mera > > mas > > > perimenan kai apogoiteftikan otan tous ipan avrio) > > > g. 3 atoma exasan 3 ergatoimeres, gia na parevriskontai stin giortoula > > tous > > > stand-by pote 8a tous er8ei na tous afisoun na milisoun > > > > > > Gia tin istoria kai mono, oi omilies itan: > > > --- > > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis: Istoria tou linux, perigrafi ton dinatotiton > tou, > > > Istoria / status tis hellug kai tis herlug (heraclion lug) > > > > > > Pitikaris 8odoris: Oikonomotexniki meleti egatastasis/xrisis GNU > > > programmaton se sigrisi me Proprietary > > > > > > Tsagatakis Giannis: Open Source Movement. Copyrights / Trademarks. > > > > > > Bottom line: > > > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro > se > > > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades > pou > > > emplakikame stin istoria afti. > > > > > > DESMEVOMAI mexri avrio na exo gnostopoieisei ena URL apo opou 8a mporoun > > na > > > katevasoun tis parousiaseis aftes osoi i8elan alla den kataferan telika > na > > > tis doun. > > > > > > APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. > > > > > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis > > > > > > > > > > > > Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am From gkabog at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 02:19:18 2001 From: gkabog at csd.uoc.gr (Lampros) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:19:18 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis References: <002e01c179f2$4bd3c1e0$0200a8c0@wise.gr> <010401c17a8c$34831320$2b083493@stud.her> Message-ID: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer> Koitaxte na deite.... Asfalws kai opoio problhma yparxe den egine epitides... Paradexomai oti eprepe na mpei orio sto xrono gia thn kathe etairia/ omada pou hthele na milhsei... Otan den yparxei auto logiko einai na traba o kathenas to sxoinh oso thelei kai na ginete mperdema. Omos mhn xehname oti htan prospatheia foithtwn kai ekdhlwsh se tetoia ektash htan h 1h fora pou diorganwthikes apo foithtes Kai kata th gnwmh mou eginan para pola apo ton proedro kai osous allous bohthhsan kai axizoun sygxarhrhria. Alla ayto to : > > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro se > > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades pou > > emplakikame stin istoria afti. Sigoura den kanei ta pragmata kalutera :) Proteinw na kanonistei wra kai mera....akoma kai prin tis giortes kai na erthoun ta paidia apo th HerLug na parousiasoun th douleia toys... Lampros Gkabogiannhs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bug Powder" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > To kanw forward sto ugrads. > > Paidia den einai swsta pragmata auta, den mporeis na les > ston allo na boh8hsei kai meta na ton gamas... > > Den 3erw poios htan ypeu8ynos, alla eprepe na ginei kalyterh > organwsh twn orwn. > > To an o allos einai apo mourath etairia h' ypourgeio den shmainei > oti prepei kai na parei thn proteraiothta... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" > To: "Board HELLUG" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:56 AM > Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > > > > Ta sigxaritiria mou stous kirious pou organosan ti diimerida pliroforikis > > sto panepistimio Kritis. > > > > Mas eixan taksei toulaxiston 2 omilies, mia gia ka8e mera. > > Tin proti mera, kai eno perimename na milisoume defteroi sti seira, mas > > trenaran gia ``se ligo''. Ypomoni leo. > > Telika eixe paei 8:30 kai akoma milouse kapoios, opote eipan gia tin > epomeni > > mera. > > > > Erxetai i epomeni mera, kai pali mexri tis 5:30 - 6:00 se ligo kai se > ligo, > > opote kai apofasisame na figoume, eixane kanei oloi tis omilies tous ektos > > apo MANTEPSTE PIOUS. > > > > Stis 5:30 pantos pou to afisame to 8ema mia kai den mporeis na > sinenoei8eis > > me (simpliroste) itan na milisoun alloi treis (apo tin idia etairia), kai > > meta emeis. Opote katalabainete giati figame... > > > > aftoi (oxoi oloi) pou eixan tin tixi kai milisan: > > > > 1. microsoft > > 2. forthnet > > 3. emporiko epimelitirio > > 4. OTE > > 5. intracom > > kai kati etairies pou eixan idri8ei apo to panepistimio > > > > Se genikes grammes, oi omilies OLON ma OLON itan: ``Afto exoume kanei, > afto > > kanoume, ANTE, TELEIONETE TO UNI NA SAS PROSLABOUME''. > > > > Ta kaka einai: > > a. oti 3 atoma eixan ksenixtisei gia na ftiaksoun tis parousiaseis tous. > > b. Oi foitites, H8ELAN na mas akousoun. (afto fanike otan ti proti mera > mas > > perimenan kai apogoiteftikan otan tous ipan avrio) > > g. 3 atoma exasan 3 ergatoimeres, gia na parevriskontai stin giortoula > tous > > stand-by pote 8a tous er8ei na tous afisoun na milisoun > > > > Gia tin istoria kai mono, oi omilies itan: > > --- > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis: Istoria tou linux, perigrafi ton dinatotiton tou, > > Istoria / status tis hellug kai tis herlug (heraclion lug) > > > > Pitikaris 8odoris: Oikonomotexniki meleti egatastasis/xrisis GNU > > programmaton se sigrisi me Proprietary > > > > Tsagatakis Giannis: Open Source Movement. Copyrights / Trademarks. > > > > Bottom line: > > EGGIOUME oti pote ksana sto panepistimio den 8a sinisfero sto paramikro se > > tetoies ``giortoules'', oute ego, alla oute kai oloi oi core linuxades pou > > emplakikame stin istoria afti. > > > > DESMEVOMAI mexri avrio na exo gnostopoieisei ena URL apo opou 8a mporoun > na > > katevasoun tis parousiaseis aftes osoi i8elan alla den kataferan telika na > > tis doun. > > > > APAITO na stalei email diamartirias apo ton silogo pros to Panepistimio. > > > > Papadogiannakis Vagelis > > > > > > From papas at wise.gr Sun Dec 2 19:51:16 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:51:16 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: References: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer> Message-ID: <20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr> Paidia, sorry. afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika. --- Pros tin organotiki epitropi, mallon ta eklegmena meli tou silogou tou csd. --- Eisastan se entelos lan8asmeno dromo oson afora sti diorganosi kata ti gnomi mou. Oi monoi pou dikaiountan na milisoun se mia tetoia giorti, einai h microsoft(?), o hellug kai to epimelitirio. Dedomenou oti aftoi pou parakolou8isan tis omilies (ektos apo emena kai esas kai tous allous omilites) itan oloi proto etos, 8elo o ka8enas apo esas na skeftei pos nomizei oti enoiosan ola afta ta paidakia ta 18xrona, pou as min ksexname fitozoousan mia zoi oi perissoteroi gia na perasoun sto csd (ana8ema kai an kserane ti einai to pc ta perissotera). 8imizo ti akousan. Merikes diafimiseis, ``eimaste cool, kante to kai eseis'' apo tis etaires pou geni8ikan ekei, kai ``eimaste cool, elate na mas doulepsete'' apo tis alles. Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet, Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip, atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila conne, as doume kati allo. As milisoume me dedomena. 8elo na mou pei opoios kserei, posoi apo tous mexri tora apofoitous tou csd exoun kanei/kanoun mba. Ego akousa ena noumero giro sto 70%. Spare me... Pistevete oti afto makropro8esma einai kalo? (Entelos ritorikh h erotish) Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. Kai malista poli perissotero apo olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Eimaste an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes. Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos, ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a vroun to dromo tous monaxoi. Pou pige i istoria tis pliroforikis, i istoria tis apple me ta garazakia, tis microsoft me to msdos, tis ibm me to ibm pc pou 8a eprepe na ma8ainoun PROTA-PROTA afta ta paidia? Den ksero pou pige, alla ksero pou EPREPE na paei. Ston tipo pou ka8otane kai eksine me to kleidi tin epifaneia tou sklirou tis IBM pou itan ek8ema, gia na dei ksero go ti, an itan telika kinder ekpliksi. a nai, eprepe na paei kai stous allous pou xtipousane ta ftoxa ta apple II, epeidi den ipirxe disketa na paroun mpros! Kai otan tous eipa ``re, me sevasmo stin istoria sas'' mou apantisan. ``Afou den eisai sto UNI, ti se noiazei''. Fisika den eixa kamia oreksi na tous eksigiso oti egrapsa mia paragrafo pio pano afou den tous to eksigei o silogos tous. Htan kata to mesimeri, kai tote itan pou protoskeftika na ta paratiso ola kai na figo. O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Poli megaliteres apaitiseis apo aftes pou exei o omilitis tis intracom, tis microsoft, tis hellug. Peite me grafiko, romantiko. Alla skeftite to. (kata to ''patakson men akouson de'') -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis papas at wise.gr [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3] [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1]. [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ? From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 21:49:58 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:49:58 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika. O proedros, pantws, kanei thn papia, oute fwnh oute akroash. Tou exw kai alla mazemena apo paliotera, ki isws t' akousei ama ton petuxw pou8ena. > Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to > ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet, > Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD > tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei > na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip, > atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila > conne, as doume kati allo. E, enta3ei, auta htan ligo malakies... Xalane to upoloipo mail pou htan, genika, polu kalo kaiprokalese tis katallhles antidraseis... > Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi > perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. (((@))) > Kai malista poli perissotero apo > olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun > gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Yyyyyyyyy (psssss gia osous grafoun kaka greeklish). > Eimaste > an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me > entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin > orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes. Twra ginetai profanes oti kaneis plaka, opote OK. > Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos, > ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite > to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a > vroun to dromo tous monaxoi. Pes ta! Ti manageropaparies htan autes pou mas eipan sth dihmerida? Dihmerida plhroforikhs htan h' dihmerida giamanagers? An htan naginoume managers, 8a phgename se sxolhgia managers! > O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Paparies. O computeras einai ena teleiws axrhsto epagkelma kai 8a katargh8ei otan ginei h epanastash (opws kai ola ta epagkelmata, allwste). > [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3] under graduate --> ugrads Einai h lista twn proptuxiakwn. Stelnontas mailekei, stelneis mailse OLOYS tous proptuxiakous (ki arketous apofoitous pou kataferan na mhnoun). H lista ugrads, wstoso, den einai mono auto. Einai enas 8esmos, entona sundedemenos kai me thn proswpikh mou poreia ws computera kai ws an8rwpou (kuriws to deutero). H lista ugrads paizei to rolo ths genikhs suneleushs, (polla pragmata - opws auth h dihmerida - suzhtiountai h' proteinontai ekei pera), enw tautoxrona polloi stelnoun kai diafora alla asxeta, opws sxolia, koutsompolia, anekdota, diamarturies, axrhsta mails klp. proswpika 8ewroumai o pateras ths epanastashs tou ugrads, dhladh ths tashs na xrhsimopoieitai etsi opws xrhsimopoieitai, ki oxi mono gia sobares anakoinwseis apo parata3eis kai organismous. > [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi > dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1]. Pi8anotata 8a labeis arketes apanthseis. Oi proptuxiakoi einai peripou 500 kai oi perissoteroi apo autous exoun entones taseis mailismou. > [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ? mpa, oxi. Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am From papas at wise.gr Mon Dec 3 01:31:37 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:31:37 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <002b01c17b70$3395e660$1b083493@computer> References: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer> <20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr> <002b01c17b70$3395e660$1b083493@computer> Message-ID: <20011203013137.7cf7db70.papas@wise.gr> "Lampros" wrote: > H tomeas ths plhroforikhs einai ayrutatos... > Kai me pia krithria epilegoume autous tous 3 pou les pio panw.... microsoft epeidi exei kati pou 8a kanei epanastash ston tomea sas (.net), hellug giati kouvalaei mia epanastasi kai presvevei kapoia idanika, kai epimelitirio gia tis genikes katef8insis. > De xreiazete na ksereis apo pc gia na ertheis na spoudazeis se tmhma > ypolgistwn...aloimono > Arkei na exeis agaph gia to antikeimeno... thn episthmh ayth > genikotera... . > ta ypoloipa ta mathaineis edw.... etsi pu ta grafo, mporei kai na min katalaves... Oute kan to antikeimno kseroun/agapoun (kai to ksereis). Anyway, simfonoume se afto :) > epishs presbeuei kai prwthei diafores koinwnikes axies, tropous > skepseis > ktl... H idea pou exeis gia tis koinonikes a3eies xrizei ana8eorishs. Oi monoi pou proo8oun koinonikes aksies, einai oi dimosioi ipaliloi kai oi aksies aftes einai h tempelia kai o ofadelfismos :). > Alla ayto to exoume xanapei.. .. OK den eginan ola teleia.... alla > mathainoume apo ta lathh mas kai h epomenh > ekdhlwsh tha ginei kaluterh... :) sas to efxomai. > Lampros Gkabogiannis -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis papas at wise.gr From kazaz at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 20:41:00 2001 From: kazaz at csd.uoc.gr (KAZAZakis Georgios) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:41:00 +0200 (EET) Subject: protash... In-Reply-To: <20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: Nomizw oti einai kalutera pou eginan etsi ta pragmata gia na diaxwristoun oi "diafhmiseis" apo to ergo kai gia na ekshghsw proteinw: To savvato pou mas erxetai, na kanonistei ena diwro, p.x 3:00-5:00 (h' genika kapoia stimgh pou 8a einai eleu8ero to amfi8eatro) na ginei h parousiash pou etoimasate. Oxi diorganwsh, giortoula h' opws alliws mporei na to onomasei kaneis, alla mia aplh parousiash. O stoxos auth th fora 8a einai gia ta atoma ta opoia 8eloun na enhmerw8oun gia ta sugkekrimena 8emata pou exete na mas peite kai pou kata thn tapeinh mou apopsh ontws, opws eipate aforoun kai endiaferoun arketo kosmo, kai epishs einai kai genikotera shmantika oson afora ton tropo skepshs pou "kouvaloun". Sto idio stul -pou proteinw- ginontai suxna kai alles parousiaseis, otan ka8hghtes tou tmhmatos kaloun sugkekrimena atoma na milhsoun, gia opoiodhpote 8ema. Auth th fora oxi afises se olo to Hrakleio, alla enhmerwsh me mail stous panepisthmiakous kai oxi mono users. Nomizw oti oi pio polloi apo tous endiaferomenous - kai apo ola ta tmhmata - 8a enhmerw8oun gia to sumvan kai autoi pou pragmatika endiaferontai, 8a er8oun. Den xreiazomaste polu kosmo outws h' allws gia na ginei kati ousiastiko. [pros to sullogo foithtwn] Nomizw oti exoun dikio ta paidia pou lene oti den ekselixthkan kala ta pragmata anaforika me auta pou skopeuan na kanoun, epishs gia to oti afierwsan arketo xrono xwris na exei apotelesma kai telos kai gia to oti auta pou exoun na poun einai shmantika. Gi'autous tous logous nomizw oti o sullogos prepei na kanei auth thn energeia (h' kapoia allh, an krinei oti mporei na ginei kati diaforetiko/kalutero). Apla nomizw oti mias kai egine hdh kapoios kopos einai kalo na teleiwsei kai omorfa h olh prospa8eia, kati pou kata th gnwmh mou den einai duskolo, einai swsto kai einai kai wfeloimo. Kazaz/ P.S: Vevaia prepei kai ta paidia pou 8a kanoun tis parousiaseis na sumfwnhsoun, ektos apo to sullogo :) On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > Paidia, sorry. > > afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika. > > --- > Pros tin organotiki epitropi, mallon ta eklegmena meli tou silogou tou > csd. > --- > Eisastan se entelos lan8asmeno dromo oson afora sti diorganosi kata ti > gnomi mou. Oi monoi pou dikaiountan na milisoun se mia tetoia giorti, > einai h microsoft(?), o hellug kai to epimelitirio. > > Dedomenou oti aftoi pou parakolou8isan tis omilies (ektos apo emena kai > esas kai tous allous omilites) itan oloi proto etos, 8elo o ka8enas apo > esas na skeftei pos nomizei oti enoiosan ola afta ta paidakia ta 18xrona, > pou as min ksexname fitozoousan mia zoi oi perissoteroi gia na perasoun > sto csd (ana8ema kai an kserane ti einai to pc ta perissotera). 8imizo ti > akousan. Merikes diafimiseis, ``eimaste cool, kante to kai eseis'' apo tis > etaires pou geni8ikan ekei, kai ``eimaste cool, elate na mas doulepsete'' > apo tis alles. > > Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to > ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet, > Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD > tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei > na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip, > atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila > conne, as doume kati allo. > > As milisoume me dedomena. 8elo na mou pei opoios kserei, posoi apo tous > mexri tora apofoitous tou csd exoun kanei/kanoun mba. Ego akousa ena > noumero giro sto 70%. Spare me... Pistevete oti afto makropro8esma einai > kalo? (Entelos ritorikh h erotish) > > Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi > perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. Kai malista poli perissotero apo > olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun > gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Eimaste > an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me > entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin > orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes. > > Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos, > ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite > to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a > vroun to dromo tous monaxoi. > > Pou pige i istoria tis pliroforikis, i istoria tis apple me ta garazakia, > tis microsoft me to msdos, tis ibm me to ibm pc pou 8a eprepe na ma8ainoun > PROTA-PROTA afta ta paidia? Den ksero pou pige, alla ksero pou EPREPE na > paei. Ston tipo pou ka8otane kai eksine me to kleidi tin epifaneia tou > sklirou tis IBM pou itan ek8ema, gia na dei ksero go ti, an itan telika > kinder ekpliksi. a nai, eprepe na paei kai stous allous pou xtipousane ta > ftoxa ta apple II, epeidi den ipirxe disketa na paroun mpros! Kai otan > tous eipa ``re, me sevasmo stin istoria sas'' mou apantisan. ``Afou den > eisai sto UNI, ti se noiazei''. Fisika den eixa kamia oreksi na tous > eksigiso oti egrapsa mia paragrafo pio pano afou den tous to eksigei o > silogos tous. Htan kata to mesimeri, kai tote itan pou protoskeftika na ta > paratiso ola kai na figo. > > O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Poli > megaliteres apaitiseis apo aftes pou exei o omilitis tis intracom, tis > microsoft, tis hellug. > > Peite me grafiko, romantiko. Alla skeftite to. (kata to ''patakson men > akouson de'') > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > papas at wise.gr > > > [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3] > [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi > dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1]. > [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ? > From gkabog at csd.uoc.gr Sun Dec 2 22:30:34 2001 From: gkabog at csd.uoc.gr (Lampros) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:30:34 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis References: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer> <20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <002b01c17b70$3395e660$1b083493@computer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" To: "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > Paidia, sorry. > > afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika. > > --- > Pros tin organotiki epitropi, mallon ta eklegmena meli tou silogou tou > csd. > --- > Eisastan se entelos lan8asmeno dromo oson afora sti diorganosi kata ti > gnomi mou. Oi monoi pou dikaiountan na milisoun se mia tetoia giorti, > einai h microsoft(?), o hellug kai to epimelitirio. Den katalabainw giati to les ayto.... Giati na mpoume sth logikh ayth .... autos mas kanei...aytos de mas kanei.... H tomeas ths plhroforikhs einai ayrutatos... Kai me pia krithria epilegoume autous tous 3 pou les pio panw.... > > Dedomenou oti aftoi pou parakolou8isan tis omilies (ektos apo emena kai > esas kai tous allous omilites) itan oloi proto etos, 8elo o ka8enas apo > esas na skeftei pos nomizei oti enoiosan ola afta ta paidakia ta 18xrona, > pou as min ksexname fitozoousan mia zoi oi perissoteroi gia na perasoun > sto csd (ana8ema kai an kserane ti einai to pc ta perissotera). 8imizo ti De xreiazete na ksereis apo pc gia na ertheis na spoudazeis se tmhma ypolgistwn...aloimono Arkei na exeis agaph gia to antikeimeno... thn episthmh ayth genikotera... . ta ypoloipa ta mathaineis edw.... > akousan. Merikes diafimiseis, ``eimaste cool, kante to kai eseis'' apo tis > etaires pou geni8ikan ekei, kai ``eimaste cool, elate na mas doulepsete'' > apo tis alles. > > Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to > ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet, > Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD > tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei > na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip, > atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila > conne, as doume kati allo. > Ws gnwston h kathe etairia koitaei to symferon ths... Kai to pws tha brei neous ergazomenous... alla epishs presbeuei kai prwthei diafores koinwnikes axies, tropous skepseis ktl... Ayto einai gnwsto kai sumbainei opote mia etairia kanei mia parousiash... Endexomenos na mporousame na paremboume thetika an orizame mia thematologia sthn ekdhlwsh h an zhtousame apo kathe etairia na parousiasei px kapoia sygkekrimenh texnologia kai na mhn pasousiasei kati geniko kai aoristo ( to opoio tha htan toulaxisto anousio kai spatalh xronou ...) Alla ayto to exoume xanapei.. .. OK den eginan ola teleia.... alla mathainoume apo ta lathh mas kai h epomenh ekdhlwsh tha ginei kaluterh... :) Omws sigoura den einai mono tetoia ta erethismata pou dexontai oi prwtoeteis...alla kai oi megaloeths foithtes.... Pera apo thn duhmerida ayth einai kai h kathhmerinh empeiria kai enasxolhsh ( apo pollous) pou fernei se epafh me diafores texnologies kai diaforous tropous skepseis.... ( mhn xehname oti sthn idia thn dhhmerida htan programmatismeno na milhsoun kai ta paidia apo th herlug opote tha htan pio issorophmeno to klima... ) [Edw epanalambanw th skepsh na kanonistei apo to Sulogo kai ta paidia apo th herlug h parousiash pou den egine...] Kai eimai sigouros oti tha erthoun kai prwtoeths. Lampros Gkabogiannis > As milisoume me dedomena. 8elo na mou pei opoios kserei, posoi apo tous > mexri tora apofoitous tou csd exoun kanei/kanoun mba. Ego akousa ena > noumero giro sto 70%. Spare me... Pistevete oti afto makropro8esma einai > kalo? (Entelos ritorikh h erotish) > > Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi > perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. Kai malista poli perissotero apo > olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun > gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Eimaste > an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me > entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin > orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes. > > Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos, > ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite > to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a > vroun to dromo tous monaxoi. > > Pou pige i istoria tis pliroforikis, i istoria tis apple me ta garazakia, > tis microsoft me to msdos, tis ibm me to ibm pc pou 8a eprepe na ma8ainoun > PROTA-PROTA afta ta paidia? Den ksero pou pige, alla ksero pou EPREPE na > paei. Ston tipo pou ka8otane kai eksine me to kleidi tin epifaneia tou > sklirou tis IBM pou itan ek8ema, gia na dei ksero go ti, an itan telika > kinder ekpliksi. a nai, eprepe na paei kai stous allous pou xtipousane ta > ftoxa ta apple II, epeidi den ipirxe disketa na paroun mpros! Kai otan > tous eipa ``re, me sevasmo stin istoria sas'' mou apantisan. ``Afou den > eisai sto UNI, ti se noiazei''. Fisika den eixa kamia oreksi na tous > eksigiso oti egrapsa mia paragrafo pio pano afou den tous to eksigei o > silogos tous. Htan kata to mesimeri, kai tote itan pou protoskeftika na ta > paratiso ola kai na figo. > > O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Poli > megaliteres apaitiseis apo aftes pou exei o omilitis tis intracom, tis > microsoft, tis hellug. > > Peite me grafiko, romantiko. Alla skeftite to. (kata to ''patakson men > akouson de'') > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > papas at wise.gr > > > [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3] > [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi > dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1]. > [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ? > From koutsom at csd.uoc.gr Mon Dec 3 01:52:18 2001 From: koutsom at csd.uoc.gr (KOUTSOManis Vassilios) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:52:18 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <20011203013137.7cf7db70.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > "Lampros" wrote: > > > H tomeas ths plhroforikhs einai ayrutatos... > > Kai me pia krithria epilegoume autous tous 3 pou les pio panw.... > > microsoft epeidi exei kati pou 8a kanei epanastash ston tomea sas (.net), > hellug giati kouvalaei mia epanastasi kai presvevei kapoia idanika, kai > epimelitirio gia tis genikes katef8insis. > > > De xreiazete na ksereis apo pc gia na ertheis na spoudazeis se tmhma > > ypolgistwn...aloimono > > Arkei na exeis agaph gia to antikeimeno... thn episthmh ayth > > genikotera... . > > ta ypoloipa ta mathaineis edw.... > > etsi pu ta grafo, mporei kai na min katalaves... Oute kan to antikeimno > kseroun/agapoun (kai to ksereis). Anyway, simfonoume se afto :) > > > epishs presbeuei kai prwthei diafores koinwnikes axies, tropous > > skepseis > > ktl... > > H idea pou exeis gia tis koinonikes a3eies xrizei ana8eorishs. Oi monoi > pou proo8oun koinonikes aksies, einai oi dimosioi ipaliloi kai oi aksies > aftes einai h tempelia kai o ofadelfismos :). Wraia apopsh omologoumenws.Kai diatypwnetai me tropo idiaitera diallaktiko...H apopsh sas mallon xrizei poikilwn sxoliwn... > > > Alla ayto to exoume xanapei.. .. OK den eginan ola teleia.... alla > > mathainoume apo ta lathh mas kai h epomenh > > ekdhlwsh tha ginei kaluterh... :) > > sas to efxomai. > > > Lampros Gkabogiannis > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > papas at wise.gr > From gkabog at csd.uoc.gr Mon Dec 3 05:51:02 2001 From: gkabog at csd.uoc.gr (Lampros) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 05:51:02 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis References: <001401c17ac6$fcd4c3c0$13083493@computer><20011202195116.7e69a989.papas@wise.gr><002b01c17b70$3395e660$1b083493@computer> <20011203013137.7cf7db70.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <001b01c17bad$bb837dc0$1a083493@computer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" To: "Lampros" Cc: ; "herlug list" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > "Lampros" wrote: > > > H tomeas ths plhroforikhs einai ayrutatos... > > Kai me pia krithria epilegoume autous tous 3 pou les pio panw.... > > microsoft epeidi exei kati pou 8a kanei epanastash ston tomea sas (.net), > hellug giati kouvalaei mia epanastasi kai presvevei kapoia idanika, kai > epimelitirio gia tis genikes katef8insis. Diafwnw..... Ypothetw ( epeidh den hmoun egw pou kalesa tous antiprwswpous ) oti egine kalesma se polles etairies kai kapoies apo aytes dexthhkan na parousiasoun kati.... Dhladh ti na kaname..... na pernousan oi etairies autes apo deuterh eklogh?? Den ginontai tetoies diakriseis.... Kai ta krithria pou bazete einai entelws upokeimenika .... Kai h Vtrip eixe na parousiasei poly shmantika pragmata Epishs ektos apo th Hellug ( h opoia kalws hrthe) yparxoun ki alles omades pou presbeuoun paromoia idanika . ( FreeBSD isws alla kai alles polles ) Auto me to epimelhthrio den to katalaba :) > > > De xreiazete na ksereis apo pc gia na ertheis na spoudazeis se tmhma > > ypolgistwn...aloimono > > Arkei na exeis agaph gia to antikeimeno... thn episthmh ayth > > genikotera... . > > ta ypoloipa ta mathaineis edw.... > > etsi pu ta grafo, mporei kai na min katalaves... Oute kan to antikeimno > kseroun/agapoun (kai to ksereis). Anyway, simfonoume se afto :) Ma ayto sumbainei se kapoio pososto ( mikro h megalo ) se oles tis sxoles olwn twn Panepisthmiwn..... Ofeilete kai sto ekpaideutiko systhma kai sta paidia pou polles fores den einai eukolo na kseroun ti theloun otan briskontai se ilikia 17-18-19 etwn... Twra an ennoeite oti to pososto auto einai megalo sto diko mas tmhma h pepoithhsh mou einai oxi... Dhladh oi pio polloi tous aresei ayto pou kanoun.... > > > epishs presbeuei kai prwthei diafores koinwnikes axies, tropous > > skepseis > > ktl... > > H idea pou exeis gia tis koinonikes a3eies xrizei ana8eorishs. Oi monoi > pou proo8oun koinonikes aksies, einai oi dimosioi ipaliloi kai oi aksies > aftes einai h tempelia kai o ofadelfismos :). ( An katalaba kala apo oti lete tote h parathrhsh sas einai astoxh giati xefeugoume apo to thema... alla apantw ) Dhladh h microsoft , i Sun , i Intel ( dialegw tyxaia merikes ) kai alla oikonomika megthhria pou kathorizoun se megalo pososto th zwh mas ( oxi mono se epipedo plhroforikhs ) den presbeuoun tipota pera apo ayto pou kathara einai ( etairies plhroforikhs ) ??? Asfalws kai presbeuoun ... Ki ayto giati h politikh toys anamugnyetai kai se alles ptyxes ths koinwnias pera apo thn plhroforikh, ara presbeuoun KAI koinwnikes axies kai tropous skepshs. Arage ti htan auto pou ekane pollous apo tous prwtoeths na niwsoun : [ ......Agxomenoi, kai me varh to ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet, Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip, atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila conne,....... ] Htan o tropos skepshs kai oi axies pou presbeuoun oi etairies aytes ... H Intrakom, h microsoft kai h kathe microsoft mikrh h megalh..... Lampros Gkabogiannis > > > Alla ayto to exoume xanapei.. .. OK den eginan ola teleia.... alla > > mathainoume apo ta lathh mas kai h epomenh > > ekdhlwsh tha ginei kaluterh... :) > > sas to efxomai. > > > Lampros Gkabogiannis > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > papas at wise.gr > From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Dec 3 10:13:56 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:13:56 +0200 (EET) Subject: Postings @ herlug Message-ID: Kyrioi, tis teleytaies meres logw toy gnwstoy thematos exoyn skasei ena swro mail sth lista poy xreiazontai egkrish gia na staloyn. Peite th gnwmh sas gia to ti na kanoyme Kalhmera, Spiros D. Bolis From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Dec 3 13:24:52 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:24:52 +0200 (EET) Subject: Perimenw nea akoma.. In-Reply-To: <9F8BD36768BFD5119B1D0002557C28ED65BA@HERMES> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Constantinos Topoglidis wrote: > re sboli ... > mpas kai exeis ekeino to 8selido apo to IF tou HERLUG ? > (electronical morfi tha boleue idiaitera :) > allios scanner ???? (an exeis time) > Wre synteknoi, to exei kapoios eykairo? As to steilei se eman 'h apeytheias ston Kwsta ton Topoglidh (fainetai sto cc:) fxaristw, -- Spiros D. Bolis From saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr Mon Dec 3 18:13:23 2001 From: saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr (Stavros 0 Sahtouris) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:13:23 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <20011203014424.636de039.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > H ali8eia einai oti ta nea paidia trefoun > elpides pou den einai kai toso efkola ilopoiisimes. Asxeta oti ta paidia > apo th vtrip to aksizoun pragmatika sa miala, ti 8a itan an den ipirxe > afto to kati? (hint: xreomenoi) Mh nomizeis oti sth vtrip pane ka8e mera xaroumenoi ki eutuxismenoi. Douleuoun ki ekei pera, ki auto einai to problhma (pisteuw oti h douleia einai polu kako pragma kai prepei na katapolemh8ei). Polles fores xreiazontai na kanoun spasarxidika pragmata, pou den tous endiaferoun, na kanoun baretes sunanthseis, na ma8oun pragmata teleiws axrhsta klp. (8a ta 3ereis ki esu apo th dikh sou empeiria). Kia uto, fusika, den einai problhma ths plhroforikhs, mono, alla polu genikotero. H vtrip einai kalh fash (se sxesh me alles periptwseis), dioti ta paidia einai, akoma, mikrh etairia kai leitourgoun se megalo ba8mo san parea. Proswpika, tous euxomai na kerdisoun to loto, na thn kleisoun kai na pane diakopes stis Mpaxames h' sto Nepal (analoga me to pou protima o ka8enas) gia thn upoloiph zwh tous. > > > O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. > > > > Paparies. O computeras einai ena teleiws axrhsto epagkelma kai 8a > > katargh8ei otan ginei h epanastash (opws kai ola ta epagkelmata, > > allwste). > > den elega tous kompiouterades na fotisei o 8eos re, tous proedrous/DS sas > :) > hint: o prohgoumenos proedros tou DS einai stelexos ths vtrip :) From venturas at csd.uoc.gr Mon Dec 3 18:18:44 2001 From: venturas at csd.uoc.gr (Count Zero) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:18:44 +0200 (EET) Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: >Mh nomizeis oti sth vtrip pane ka8e mera xaroumenoi ki eutuxismenoi. Ka8e deuterh mera omws? Mpaaaa... >Douleuoun ki ekei pera, ki auto einai to problhma (pisteuw oti h douleia >einai polu kako pragma kai prepei na katapolemh8ei). Pesta. > na kanoun baretes sunanthseis, E, oso na' nai... >H vtrip einai kalh fash (se sxesh me alles periptwseis), dioti ta paidia >einai, akoma, mikrh etairia kai leitourgoun se megalo ba8mo san parea. Alla mexri ekei, mhn fantasteis kati se3oualiko anamesa mas. >Proswpika, tous euxomai na kerdisoun to loto, na thn kleisoun kai na pane >diakopes stis Mpaxames h' sto Nepal (analoga me to pou protima o ka8enas) Sto Berolino tou 1920. From papas at wise.gr Tue Dec 4 02:08:37 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 02:08:37 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: References: <20011203014424.636de039.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <20011204020837.2ecd949c.papas@wise.gr> Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > > > H ali8eia einai oti ta nea paidia trefoun > > elpides pou den einai kai toso efkola ilopoiisimes. Asxeta oti ta > paidia > > apo th vtrip to aksizoun pragmatika sa miala, ti 8a itan an den ipirxe > > afto to kati? (hint: xreomenoi) > > Mh nomizeis oti sth vtrip pane ka8e mera xaroumenoi ki eutuxismenoi. > Douleuoun ki ekei pera, ki auto einai to problhma (pisteuw oti h douleia > einai polu kako pragma kai prepei na katapolemh8ei) Kai otan ego eipa gia ta idanika pou kaliergoun oi dimosioi ipaliloi, mou tin eipe o allos :))) Pestaaaaa. > . Polles fores > xreiazontai na kanoun spasarxidika pragmata, pou den tous endiaferoun, > na > kanoun baretes sunanthseis, na ma8oun pragmata teleiws axrhsta klp. (8a > ta > 3ereis ki esu apo th dikh sou empeiria). Kia uto, fusika, den einai > problhma ths plhroforikhs, mono, alla polu genikotero. Simera ekana 70 XIliometra gia na egatastiso ena ektipoti A3 se ena elaiourgio, asta... > H vtrip einai kalh fash (se sxesh me alles periptwseis), dioti ta paidia > einai, akoma, mikrh etairia kai leitourgoun se megalo ba8mo san parea. > Proswpika, tous euxomai na kerdisoun to loto, na thn kleisoun kai na > pane > diakopes stis Mpaxames h' sto Nepal (analoga me to pou protima o > ka8enas) > gia thn upoloiph zwh tous. aferim! (kai se mena omos e?) > > den elega tous kompiouterades na fotisei o 8eos re, tous proedrous/DS > sas > > :) > > > > hint: o prohgoumenos proedros tou DS einai stelexos ths vtrip :) > /me kserokatapinei :) Enpasei periptosi, as piasoume kai kamia alli etairia, giati tin kakomoira ti vtrip tin zouliksame :) Pos ti lene tou Mavromixali Steliou ??? Episis, as me ferei kapoios se epafi me ta paidia apo tin atlantida, 8elo na tous miliso bussiness :) -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From vtrip at grecian.net Tue Dec 4 10:36:02 2001 From: vtrip at grecian.net (Evangelos Tripolitakis) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:36:02 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis References: <20011203014424.636de039.papas@wise.gr> <20011204020837.2ecd949c.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <001501c17c9e$b52396d0$73031b93@mhl.tuc.gr> hello paides, mia mikrh paren8esh gia thn intracom ... hr8an kai edw (polytexneio krhths) kai mas elegan...: "Mhn kanete master elate se emas" "Parte anabolh elate se emas" "Eimaste h monh etaireia poy exei ka8ierwsei to 35wro" (kala douleyei kaneis ekei mono 35 wres?) "Exoume peri8alpsh leofwreia restaurant" mono rwsides den mas yposxe8hkan... kati mou brwmaei oti exoun parei perissotera projects apo oso antexoun kai psaxnoun meta manias kosmo gia na ta bgaloun pera, to periergo sthn ypo8esh einai meta poy 8a teleiwsoun ta projects ti 8a ginei aytos o kosmos alla ayto einai allou papa evangelio.... thn kalyterh douleia pisteyw apo tis gnwseis poy exw gia thn agora tou irakliou ekane h "synwnomath" vtrip. dynamiko startup me atoma poy to exoun meraki kai goustaroun th douleia tous.Mexri twra tipote kainourgio.Pantws ka8olou den 8a ekplagw ean se prooptikh dietias thn aporrofhsei kapoia intrasoft enanti 2~3 dis (oxi Euro kante eseis thn metatroph) , kai ta paidia pane stis mpaxames (den xreiazetai na kerdisoun to lotto) kai afhsoun to onoma sthn intrasoft kai kanoun aytoi nea etaireia. To idio ekane edw h "Dialogos" (www.dialogos.gr) etaireia poy thn ekane ka8hghths me apokleistiko skopo na thn poulhsei enanti arketwn ekatontadwn (to 51%) ekatommyriwn drx sthn intracom :) Mono kapoios ama exei megalh anagh , kalo einai na asxolh8ei me tous kolossous. Desmeuomai se epomeno posting moy na sas milhsw gia thn gnwsth se olous mas intel me bash tis istories poy moy elege ka8hghths toy tmhmatos moy poy htan panw apo 8 xronia ekei (perase kai apo thn AMD xixiix) sto VLSI tmhma ths... 8a pe8anete sto gelio... Make startups - not war Vaggelis From vanton at csd.uoc.gr Tue Dec 4 11:57:10 2001 From: vanton at csd.uoc.gr (Vagelis P. Antoniadis) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:57:10 +0200 Subject: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis In-Reply-To: <20011204020837.2ecd949c.papas@wise.gr> Message-ID: <000201c17caa$0b1c8eb0$14803493@SELINI> Paides, Estw kai an den eginan oi omilies-parousiaseis ths herlug exw mia photo na kata8esw. Mporeite na thn parete apo ta URLs: http://www.csd.uoc.gr/~vanton/herlug/herlug_small.gif http://www.csd.uoc.gr/~vanton/herlug/herlug_large.jpg /papous > -----Original Message----- > From: herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr > [mailto:herlug-admin at lists.hellug.gr] On Behalf Of > Papadogiannakis Vagelis > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:09 AM > To: Stavros 0 Sahtouris > Cc: herlug at lists.hellug.gr > Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis > > > Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote: > > > > > > H ali8eia einai oti ta nea paidia trefoun > > > elpides pou den einai kai toso efkola ilopoiisimes. Asxeta oti ta > > paidia > > > apo th vtrip to aksizoun pragmatika sa miala, ti 8a itan an den > > > ipirxe afto to kati? (hint: xreomenoi) > > > > Mh nomizeis oti sth vtrip pane ka8e mera xaroumenoi ki > eutuxismenoi. > > Douleuoun ki ekei pera, ki auto einai to problhma (pisteuw oti h > > douleia einai polu kako pragma kai prepei na katapolemh8ei) > > Kai otan ego eipa gia ta idanika pou kaliergoun oi dimosioi > ipaliloi, mou tin eipe o allos :))) Pestaaaaa. > > > . Polles fores > > xreiazontai na kanoun spasarxidika pragmata, pou den tous > endiaferoun, > > na kanoun baretes sunanthseis, na ma8oun pragmata teleiws > axrhsta klp. > > (8a ta > > 3ereis ki esu apo th dikh sou empeiria). Kia uto, fusika, den einai > > problhma ths plhroforikhs, mono, alla polu genikotero. > > Simera ekana 70 XIliometra gia na egatastiso ena ektipoti A3 > se ena elaiourgio, asta... > > > H vtrip einai kalh fash (se sxesh me alles periptwseis), dioti ta > > paidia einai, akoma, mikrh etairia kai leitourgoun se > megalo ba8mo san > > parea. Proswpika, tous euxomai na kerdisoun to loto, na thn > kleisoun > > kai na pane diakopes stis Mpaxames h' sto Nepal (analoga me to pou > > protima o > > ka8enas) > > gia thn upoloiph zwh tous. > > aferim! > (kai se mena omos e?) > > > > den elega tous kompiouterades na fotisei o 8eos re, tous > > > proedrous/DS > > sas > > > :) > > > > > > > hint: o prohgoumenos proedros tou DS einai stelexos ths vtrip :) > > > > /me kserokatapinei :) > > Enpasei periptosi, as piasoume kai kamia alli etairia, giati > tin kakomoira ti vtrip tin zouliksame :) Pos ti lene tou > Mavromixali Steliou ??? > > Episis, as me ferei kapoios se epafi me ta paidia apo tin > atlantida, 8elo na tous miliso bussiness :) > > -- > Vagelis Papadogiannakis > http://www.wise.gr > papas at wise.gr > From sbolis at freemail.gr Thu Dec 6 18:17:08 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:17:08 +0200 Subject: psyxraimia synteknoi! Message-ID: <01f901c17e71$7434b4e0$974c86c3@chem.uoa.gr> Sygnwmh gia to ektos thematos alla den kratithika,, Na pernate kala sbolis Y.G. Koitaxte ti epatha o amoiros, listarxos antrwpos.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Your mail to 'Herlug' with the subject Psyxraimia synteknoi! Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 597176 bytes but there's a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Opote anagkasthka na to mikrynw ;-) Blepw ton tsagkatakh na trwei thn kotsida toy ! ;-) From papas at wise.gr Wed Dec 19 17:34:04 2001 From: papas at wise.gr (Papadogiannakis Vagelis) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:34:04 +0200 Subject: ti egine re paidia? Message-ID: <20011219173404.5a024289.papas@wise.gr> POli mouga exei pesei kai eipa na spaso ti monotonia Gianni, Thodori, Lefteri, 8a to kanoume afto pou legame me ta fagita? Ama einai na doume an endiaferontai kai alloi apo do mesa kai an exun fisika ta aparaitita prosonta na simetexoune e? -- Vagelis Papadogiannakis http://www.wise.gr papas at wise.gr From fuabap at hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 01:54:57 2001 From: fuabap at hotmail.com (GEORGE MAMAKIS) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:54:57 +0000 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hwlab at cs.teiher.gr Thu Dec 20 13:20:53 2001 From: hwlab at cs.teiher.gr (Tsagatakis Giannis) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:20:53 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: ti egine re paidia? Message-ID: <200112201114.NAA18737@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Subject: Re: ti egine re paidia? Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:53:45 +0200 From: Tsagatakis Giannis To: Papadogiannakis Vagelis On Wed 19 Dec 2001 17:34, you wrote: > POli mouga exei pesei kai eipa na spaso ti monotonia > > Gianni, Thodori, Lefteri, 8a to kanoume afto pou legame me ta fagita? > > Ama einai na doume an endiaferontai kai alloi apo do mesa kai an exun > fisika ta aparaitita prosonta na simetexoune e? Ke gia osus den katalavan : Oi simetasxontes tha kataskeyasun fagita san ta parkato: o Mpritzoles me saltsa fasolia o Xumo ke Tambuli (aravika) o Mila gemista me stafides ke amigdala ston furno o Salaxi o .... ke polla alla pu tora ta exo ksexasei Fisika monoi tus, me ta idia tus ta xerakia, ke ouixi apo to delivery tis geitonias tus. Gia na mporesete na simetasxete tha prepei na katathesete treis(3) protaseis menu stin epitropi i opoia tha kataliksei ti tha ftiaksete. Den gininte dektoi theates stis singentroseis (meta i aney piruniou). Giati san Linuxades eimaste nai kai sto Free As a Beer and Food, alla tha prepei na ginete qualified gourmet Developers gia na metasxete isotima stin koinotita. Aloios tha prepei na sinexisete na trote tiganites patates (Deite sxetika http://magaz.hellug.gr/27/03_odigos-1.html) gia na mpeite sto noima Sto metaksi tha prepei na energopoiithume -- Tsagatakis Giannis To be or not to be is true From mtzanidakis at yahoo.com Sat Dec 22 13:30:34 2001 From: mtzanidakis at yahoo.com (Manolis Tzanidakis) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 03:30:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fwd: Re: ti egine re paidia? In-Reply-To: <200112201114.NAA18737@venus.cs.teiher.gr> Message-ID: <20011222113034.15783.qmail@web12604.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tsagatakis Giannis wrote: > o Mpritzoles me saltsa fasolia > o Xumo ke Tambuli (aravika) > o Mila gemista me stafides ke amigdala ston furno > o Salaxi > o .... ke polla alla pu tora ta exo ksexasei Giam giam tambuli. Plits plats (o apohxos tou platarismatos twn saliwn sto patwma :) Loipon Gianni, ka8oti -opws sou exw anaferei sto parel8on...- oi mageirikes mou ikanothtes periorizontai se makaronia, patates ktl. pistevw oti hr8e h wra na dokimaseis to fovero & tromero home-made krasi mas ! H syneisfora mou loipon 8a einai home-made krasi & raki (koinws linux=free as krasos & rakos :) An den yparxei antirhsh proxwrame se leptomereies. Ka8oti o filos 8odwrhs 8a th spasei Deytera ki egw den eimai se 8esh tsimpousiou (2-fronhmhtes out / rwta Teo...) gia pote lete na ginei ? Manwlis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr Sat Dec 22 12:57:54 2001 From: lefteris at godzilla.edu.uoc.gr (Sidirourgos Lefteris) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:57:54 +0200 (EET) Subject: Feygw !!!! In-Reply-To: <20011222113034.15783.qmail@web12604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011222125256.G59287-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Loipon paidia, shmera feygw gia a8hna:) Sas eyxomai xronia polla kalh xronia kai me akoma ypshloterous stoxous! (p.x. na ginete kernel developers):) Akoma, na pw oti prokeimenoy na parete meros sthn polyhmerida faghtoy 8a prepei na eiste poly kaloi se ayto poy 8a fia3ete, kai fysika na mhn einai synh8hsmenes geyseis. Gia paradeigma kotopoylo sto foyrno den einai apodekto! kotopoylo sto fourno me portokali,damaskhna kai gemish apo koukounari, amygdalo, kai karydia kai telos mia glykia saltsa h' pikantikh 8a htan oti prepei. Ayta, kata t' alla kai pali xronia polla kai ta leme toy xronoy:) lefteris -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From sbolis at freemail.gr Sun Dec 23 17:20:47 2001 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:20:47 +0200 (EET) Subject: Feygw !!!! In-Reply-To: <20011222125256.G59287-100000@godzilla.edu.uoc.gr> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Sidirourgos Lefteris wrote: > > Loipon paidia, shmera feygw gia a8hna:) > > Sas eyxomai xronia polla kalh xronia kai me akoma ypshloterous stoxous! > (p.x. na ginete kernel developers):) > Me aformh to mail toy Lefterh poy ton perimenoyme kairo na emfanistei ... (Lefterh tha kanonisoyme oso kairo tha eisai sthn Athina na brethoyme estw kai gia ligo, egw tha leipsw kamia bdomadoyla omws) Gia toys ypoloipoys, Xronia polla, kala na perasete kai prosoxh sto poso tha fate kai tha pieite (an kai na pas skasmenos einai kalh periptwsh ;-) -- Spiros D. Bolis From barelas at panoramix.softnet.tuc.gr Sat Dec 29 16:57:35 2001 From: barelas at panoramix.softnet.tuc.gr (Junkie) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:57:35 +0200 (EET) Subject: hi Message-ID: gia xara...apo pote apoktisama kai stin kriti lug? melh ginontai mono oi krhtikoi-krhtikoi i genika osoi zoun stin kriti? an einai genika tote 8a i8ela na ginw melos! giannis varelas foititis hmmy sto TUC oti allo 8eleis mail g.