Paei sth Boylh me nomosxedio h symfwnia me th microsoft toy 2006

Christos Ricudis ricudis at itc.auth.gr
Fri Jan 18 16:40:50 EET 2008


Thanasis wrote:
> Εγώ πάντως τί θέλεις να πείς δέν το κατάλαβα... αλλά, ότι πείς.
>   

Den perimena na katalabeis.

> PS: Μήπως παίρνεις κι' εσύ ποσοστά από την M$?
>   

Oxi, egw eimai, katse na deis pws me eixan apokalesei sto adslcom.gr, a, 
nai. "Gnwstos trofimos ellhnikwn akadhmaikwn idrymatwn".

Loipon, gia na ksanagyrisoume sto 8ema mas kai na baloume kai ligh 
pragmatikothta mesa, oriste merikes skorpies skepseis pou ekana tis 
teleytaies hmeres.



Exoume thn kyrwsh se nomo8etiko epipedo mias prokatarktikhs strathgikhs 
symfwnias metaksy ellhnikou dhmosiou kai Microsoft.

Ta dedomena einai ta ekshs :

1) Kai na mporousame na poume o,tidhpote gia th symfwnia, mexri na ginei 
nomos tou kratous, o,ti poume - kai emeis kai aytoi - einai panw katw 
logia tou aera.

2) H symfwnia anaferetai ws "mh-desmeytikh". Gnwrizoume ti shmainei ayto 
h ti synepagetai? (emperistatwmenes nomika apopseis, oxi th gnwmh tou 
ka8enos).

3) Ti synepagetai h nomo8etikh kyrwsh mias mh-desmeytikhs symfwnias? Mia 
mh-desmeytikh symfwnia, an kyrw8ei nomo8etika, eksakoloy8ei na einai 
mh-desmeytikh? Kai ws pros ti? Yparxoun rhtres? Kai an nai, poies? Egw 
den eida kammia (emperistatwmenes nomika apopseis, oxi th gnwmh tou 
ka8enos).


Oson afora ta zhthmata twn adeiwn logismikou :

1) Anaferontai se yfistamenes ypodomes, h mellontikes egkatastaseis? 
Profanws to ellhniko dhmosio de mporei na pei "exoume 20.000 ypologistes 
me unlicensed Microsoft software". Proswpika pisteyw oti ean to ellhniko 
dhmosio xrhsimopoihse epi tria xronia 35 xiliades kopies tou Microsoft 
BOB xwris adeia xrhshs, tote poly kala 8a kanei na tis plhrwsei th 
Microsoft.

2) Oson afora tis mellontikes egkatastaseis. Exoume enallaktikh lysh? 
Mporoume na proballoume me peistika epixeirhmata (OXI links sto 
slashdot) oti exoume enallaktikh lysh? Yparxoun epishma reports pou 
aforoun th xrhsh anoixtou logismikou sth dhmosia dioikhsh, se e8niko kai 
eyrwpaiko epipedo, wste na antiparatax8oun ws epixeirhmatologia? Nomizw 
oti yparxoun, kapou eixa dei merika. Yparxoun analyseis skopimothtas, 
kostous/ofelous, ktl?

3) Pws mporoume na proballoume to epixeirhma tou kostous? EXOUME 
emperistatwmenes meletes se e8niko/eyrwpaiko epipedo? H diatypwsh "to 
open source logismiko einai tzaaaaaampaaaaaa" einai yperaplousteytikh.


Oson afora ta zhthmata antagwnismou :

1) Poia einai ayta ta zhthmata? Pws orizetai o a8emitos antagwnismos 
(nomika)? Empiptei h symfwnia s'ayth thn kathgoria? Giati? Pws orizetai 
to "dhmosio symferon"?

2) Exoume nomika to dikaiwma na prosballoume th symfwnia? Me ti bash? 
Exoume ennomo symferon na to kanoyme? (emperistatwmenes nomika apopseis, 
ktl ktl ktl).

3) An thn exoume, poio dromo prepei na akolou8hsoume?


Oson afora ton politiko xeirismo tou zhthmatos.

H symfwnia proballetai ston poly kosmo, me elaxistes eksaireseis, ws mia 
symfwnia h opoia proagei ton eksygxronismo kai thn xrhsh ths texnologias 
sto dhmosio tomea. Ayto kata bash einai swsto. 40.000 neoi ypologistes 
sthn dhmosia dioikhsh einai 40.000 neoi ypologistes sth dhmosia 
dioikhsh,  kai ayto einai ofelos, anksarthtes leitourgikou systhmatos.

Antiti8emenoi sth symfwnia, mhpws 8a prepei na proseksoume na kanoume 
apolyta kseka8arous tous logous tis anti8eshs mas? An peis oti 
antit8iesai se mia symfwnia pou "proagei th xrhsh texnologias sto 
dhmosio tomea", *fainetai* san na MHN proageis th xrhsh ths texnologias 
sto dhmosio tomea. Pws 8a to apofygoume ayto?

O polys kosmos den exei idea ti einai to open source, kai gia na to 8esw 
kai eygenika, sta paparia tou kiolas. Mporoume na diatypwsoume tis 
anti8eseis mas me tetoio tropo wste na fanoyn "piasarika" ta isxyra 
shmeia ths epixeirhmatologia mas, xwris na kourazoume ton akroath mas, 
kai xwris na fainomaste peri8wriakoi h outopistes oneiropoloi?

H synergasia dhmosiou / epixeirhsewn entassetai poly kala sthn klassikh 
neofileley8erh straghtikh poy akolou8ei h trexousa kybernhsh, xwris na 
apotelei apokleistikothta ths. Einai mia strathgikh h opoia gia kapoious 
exei kapoia isxyra shmeia, aneksarthta apo tis proswpikes h politikes 
diafwnies tou ka8enos. Mporoume na diatypwsoume tis opoies diafwnies mas 
MESA sta plaisia ayths ths logikhs, wste na ginoyn en dynamei dekta kai 
apo tous idious tous ideologikous foreis ths?





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