politiki listwn (fwd)

Spiros Bolis sbolis at freemail.gr
Mon Jul 30 10:38:01 EEST 2001


At 01:58 ìì 26/7/2001, you wrote:
>I wrote:
> >
> > My two cents :
>
>Opote kalo na epektathei h sizitisi mexri na gyrisoun
>kai oi ypoloipoi apo diakopes.

(Kairia h syneisfora toy prwhn listarxoy mas..)

Kapoies parathrhseis dikes moy (giati egw hmoyn o ithikos aytoyrgos olhs 
ayths ths "anakatwsoyras" kai malista eixa pei pws tha etoimaza to arxiko 
keimenaki gia syzhthsh alla me efagan oi doyleies... Na 'nai kala o Nikos o 
Apostolakhs poy asxolithike)

H idea toy na ginei dhmosia h syzhthsh 3ekinhse apo th logikh pws o,ti 
einai koinws (kalytera eyrews) apodekto den yparxei logos na 
katastrathgeitai. Kai eyxaristw poly ta paidia poy prosferthikan (toys kanw 
Cc:) gia na 3ekinhsoyme thn koybenta kai parakalw oloys mas na symmetasxoyme.

To peri dhmokratias mallon einai dikh moy ataka. Kai profanws h e3hghsh toy 
Nikoy toy Apostolakh me kalypse apolyta giati to eixame syzhthsei mazi. 
Dhmokratia borei (?) na exoyme stis voyleytikes ekloges alla oxi sth lista 
poy "plhrwnei" o syllogos mas. Profanws omws (opws poly kala e3hghse o 
Giannhs o ioannoy) yparxei dhmokratia ayth th stigmh poy kathorizoyme thn 
koinh politikh kai oloi poy doyleyoyn gia to syllogo (root, listman, 
webmaster ktl.) logodotoyn sth G.S. Gia praktikoys logoys omws bgazoyme ena 
DS poy antiproswpeyei th GS.

Swsth h parathrhsh toy proedroy (kai eylogh h aporia toy Baggelh toy 
Papadogiannakh) oti oi kanones epiblhthikan pyrosbestika se wra krishs alla 
den antimaxontai thn koinh logikh. To asxhmo einai oti thn wra ths krishs o 
listman (kai to DS ) den exei sta xeria toy ayto poy theloyme na kanoyme 
twra wste na to tripsei se moytra (blepe mail I. Ioannoy)

Epishs dyo themata poy prepei na mas apasxolisoyn akoma einai:
-To status me ta newsgroups. Proteinw (san afethria) to kleisimo toy 
posting sth hellug apo newsgroup kai th diathrhsh ths katastash ws exei gia 
thn lgu. O Nikos o Mayrogiannopoylos sto perifhmo banio poy kaname (kai den 
irthe sxedon kaneis) eipe th frash "moderated newsgroup" poy shmainei pws 
mono ta mail poy ginontai post sth lista pernane kai sto newsgroup. 
(Texnikh boitheia apo toylaxiston Xrhsto Ricudi sigoyra epithymhth kai eyktea)
-Thn periptwsh na mh ginontai dekta gia eggrafh sth lista ta mh melh toy 
syllogoy. San idea emena de moy arese alla epeidh to akoysa to thetw gia 
syzhthsh. H logikh einai pws afoy h lista einai gia themata toy syllogoy 
kai afoy h GS exei atonhsei sa thesmos, dikaiwma logoy sth lista exoyn ta 
melh toy syllogoy alla o kathenas borei na parakoloythei ti ginetai apo ta 
arxeia kai to newsgroup (kai profanws borei na ginei melos). Ayth h lysh 
isws mas glytwnei apo diafora alla mallon mas kanei na fainomaste oti 
exoyme kati na krypsoyme.

Ennoeitai pws to idaniko tha htan h 24wrh parakoloythish twn listwn apo 
kapoion (opws eipe o Giannhs o ioannoy) alla epeidh mas exoyn teleiwsei ta 
kefalaia poy plhrwname 3 bardies olo to 24wro ( ;-) ) tha arkestoyme se 
ayta poy exoyme mexri na erthei to Trito KPS. ;-)

Ayta apo emena,
parakalw gia tis parathrhseis sas wste na arxisoyme na mazeyoyme ena 
hmiteliko keimenaki

Spiros D. Bolis




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