Parousia toy Dilima sto periptero toy hellug

Michalis Kabrianis kabrianis at hellug.gr
Thu Jul 6 23:13:04 EEST 2000


On 07-Jul-2000 Nikos Mavroyanopoulos wrote:
> Actually simera poloi nomizoun oti linux==redhat i linux==suse klp.
> Stin proigoumeni infosystem boithisame tin REDHAT, tin CALDERA, tin SuSE
> klp, moirazwntas ta CD tous, xwris na paroume dekara dwrea apo autous. 
> Tha mas dikaiologousa an moirazame to MONO to Debian tote.

Pirame dwrea ta CDs. Kai oxi mias etaireias alla triwn. Oute diakrisi kaname
(xwris bebaia na lew oti kanoume twra) oute "prowthisame" mia dianomi. To Linux
prowthisame. Tha symfwnousa mazi sou AN den milagame me oles tis etaireies.
Alla milisame, kai oi perissoteres mas steilane. LINUX mas steilane, LINUX
prowthoume. Ti den katalabainw?

> An kai exw grapsei sto dilima kai i gnwmi mou den einai antikeimeniki
> to blepw adiko na min boithisoume kai to dilima.

Oxi, egw proswpika thewrw tin gnwmi sou (opws kai olwn) ypokeimeniki, asxeta an
grafoun sto dilima i oxi. Allo o syllogos, allo i tsepi tou kathenos mas. :-)

>> Ginetai safis i enoxlisi mas san syllogos sto dilima. Yposxetai eis
>> antallagma
>> aytis tis aythairetis xrisis tou onomatos, xorigia en opsei infosystems.
>> Ksafnika erxetai protasi apo dilima oikonomikis prosforas en opsei
>> infosystems
>> gia "filoksenia" sto periptero tou hellug, kati to opoio OPWS kai na to
>> kanoume, tha enisxysoun tin apopsi dilima==hellug.
> An einai na sizitisoume gia antalagmata isws prepei, na kanonisei to DS
> mia sizitisi me ton ekdoti gi'auta ta themata. 

Ayto einai to problima. Exei HDH ginei i syzitisi tou DS me to dilima. Exei
yposxethei kapoia xorigia. H opoia xorigia twra metafrazetai "liiiigo"
diaforetika.

>> Sygnwmi alla me ayta pou blepw nomizw oti to dilima den mas sebetai. Oute
>> san syllogo, oute san onoma, alla oute kai san skeptomena onta.
>> Psilokoroidia mou myrizei kai den m' aresei.
> Isws o ekdotis den exei kali epikoinwniaki politiki me mas. Exontas
> milisei prosopika me ton pavlo, eida mia diaforetiki eikona apo auti
> pou eixa sximatisei apo tis listes.

Mporei. Kai eipa, kanena problima me ton anthrwpo. Alla otan alla les ti mia
kai alla tin alli, prepei o synomilitis sou kapws na sou pei:
Min me douleveis. Mila mou kathara. An den mporeis, na to syzitisoume eis
bathos na bgei akri. ALLA... oxi alla simera kai alla ayrio.

An re Niko pas na piaseis douleia kai sou poune "ksekinas me 200 kai se ena
mina pas 300" kai ston mina epanw sou poune "tha pareis 300 alla tha douleveis
10 wres anti gia 8" sou fainetai elleipsi epikoinwniakis politikis i koroidia?

>> Step, Sysware: 100.000-300.000 se hardware
>> Modus Vibendi: An ypologizw kala,  500.000 se fylladia - afises perysi.
> Kai tous diafimisame stin infosystem. Den xerw an prepei na dwsoume stand
> stin infosystem (alloste opws eipa dyskola mporw na eimai antikeimenikos),
> alla sigoura kapou tha eprepe na anaferetai oti bgike ena periodiko gia 
> LINUX. 

Den imoun ekei, alla den nomizw oti eixan kai kamia diafimisi ektos tou "to
tade einai xorigia tou deina" to opoio gia mena den einai diafimisi, egw
proswpika to blepw ws ithiki ypoxrewsi.

Safws to Dilima na anaferetai. Kai gnwmi mou, kakws den yparxei ena link sto
hellug opws yparxoun ta mirrors apo ta ftp twn ISPs. (bebaia den to zitise
kiolas). Allo omws na anaferetai, opws oles oi emporikes prospatheies
anaferontai sto syllogo, kai allo na enai sto idio periptero.

>> Giati olous aytous den tous "boithame"?
>> Kai na sou pw, an kapoios apo aytous erthei kai mas pei ta idia, mallon tha
>> ton diwksoume xwris deyteri koubenta, etsi?
> Mexri xtes emeis tous parakalousame na mas dwsoun cd, na grapsoun gia
> linux, na mas boithisoun. Simera kapoios mas zitaei boitheia kai emeis
> ton petame. 

Tous parakalousame kai mas dinane. Antitheta to dilima den itan pouthena tote.
Kanena mempto se ayto. To mempto einai oti to dilima den einai pouthena SIMERA.
An o skopos tou einai KAI na prowthisei to linux, ektos tou na bgalei lefta, as
kanei mia xorigia sto syllogo. As kanei ta fylladia opws ta ekane perisi i modus
vivendi. Me typografous exei pare-dwse, tou einai pio eukolo apo oti einai sto
hellug. As kanei tin xorigia pou yposxethike.
An omws den ginei tipota apo ayta, sygnwmmi alla egw tin moni kinisi pou blepw
na kanei einai na bgazei lefta. KAI ekmetallevomenos to onoma tou Hellug. KAI
xwris na prosferei tipota sto Hellug.
Kai edw, egw (opws kai oloi mas pistevw) skeftomai san Hellug.

Oi anagkes tou syllogou den exoun ekleipsei. Akoma xreiazomaste backup-device
(pou tou to ethesa proswpika, na balei ena poso to opoio tha symmeteixe se
diafores xorigies gia backup device), akoma xreiazomaste lefta, akoma
xreiazomaste diafimistiko yliko, CD, klp klp klp.

Kai teleytaia, egw akoma perimenw na dw ti exei na kerdisei o syllogos apo
ayto. Opws proeipa, an erthei me alli prosfora pou na antistoixei sta kerdi tou
apo tin xrisi tou onomatos tou Hellug, kanena problima :-)

> Nikos Mavroyanopoulos

-- 
Michalis Kabrianis
kabrianis at hellug.gr
http://www.it-jobs.gr




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