En Kataklhdei

Thu Dec 31 22:36:39 EET 1998

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To poio kato keimeno Qa einai kai to teleytaio apo thn seira ton keimenon
pou  apostelo gia to sygkekrimeno Qema:
Tyrontas thn protroph tou Evriphdh Qa stamatiso amesos prin thn Nea Xronia
Prokeitai me poly endiaferon na diavaso otidhpote prosopiko h dhmosio
graftei  apo opoiondhpote kai gia otidhpote sto sygkekrimeno Qema
Oti exo na po oloklhronete stis poio kato paragrafous
Apo merias mou to Qema ligei me auto to mail 
Qa akolouQhsei eyxhtirio mail pros olous
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Meletontas ta keimena tou agaphtou proedrou mas ftano sta  poio kato
erothmata

A: Exei dikaioma o proedros enos somateiou na vrizei meloi tou sylogou tou
???
Parapempo keimeno:
>>>Poion mwre malaka tha peiraksei? Kai giati na peiraxtei kapoios? 

B: Exei dikaioma o proedros enos sylogou na aphlei thn somatkh akaireothta
enos melous tou sylogou tou ?
Parapempo keimeno:
> Na eyxaristeis tin tyxi sou pou den se eixa mprosta mou otan to egrafes
> ayto,
> giati enas apo tous dyo mas tha katelige sto nosokomeio. An yponnoeis
> OTIDIPOTE
> gia tin sxesi mou me to HELLUG, sto opoio tygxanei na prosferw kai OXI
> na
> pairnw, na exeis ta arxidia na ertheis na mou to peis katamoutra.

C: Exei dikaioma o proedros enos sylogou na xlevazei allo melos tou
sylogou ?
Parapempo keimeno:
>>>>Ginesai geloios diastreblwnontas etsi ta legomena mou, alla den
>>>>peirazei, tha
>>>>megalwseis ki esy kapote.

D: Exei dikaioma o proedros enos sylogou na diastrevlonei keimena ?
Parapempo keimena:

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:31:42 +0200 (EET)
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
Body: as kanoume mia sygkrisi me kapoion ISP na mou peis ti diafora.

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:43:15 -0000 (GMT)
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
Body: Thelw na tonisw omws oti to na kaneis tetoies sygkriseis metaksy
EEXI kai FORTHnet, kai epitheseis kata tis FORTHnet einai toulaxiston
anithiko.

Ego vlepo enan:
A: .... proedro xydaio yvristh
B: .... proedro opou psyxanemizetai oiponies gia ton eayto tou
C: .... proedro opou feretai os xydaios trampoukos me aphles 
D: .... proedro opou sta epixhrimata apantaei me aphles kai prosvoles 

EN KATAKLYDI 
MIXALI KAVRIANI
VARETHIKA NA ASXOLOUMAI MAZI SOU... MOU EISAI ADIAFOROS
OSOI ANTEKSAN TA DIAVASOYN TA E_MAIL SOU KATALAVANE ME POION EXOUN NA
KANOUN

OPOS KAI NA EXEI OLA TA IPOLOIPA EINAI AXRISTA

p.s Sou aposrstelo me prosopiko e-mail thn dieuQhnsh mou gia na erQeis na
me direis
Ego toulaxiston den endiaferomai gia kati antistoixo enantion sou
To monadiko pou mporo na kano einai na sou prosfero ton oikto mou

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AKOLOUTHEI MARKOSYRTO KAI GIA POLOUS VARETO (alla panta alhQino) ISTORIKO
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Mail A: Liges meres poio prin kapoios stelnei kapoio keimeno apo thn EEXI
sth lista tou Hellug
erotontas: Mipos Qa eprepe na pame kai emeis sthn sygkentrosh ths EEXI gia
to Qema tou OTE ??
Nomizo oti kapoios allos eixe sthlei to idio e-mail sthn Linux lista
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Mail B: Ligo meta kapoios allos (h' o idios) stelnei kapoio e-mail kai
eneimeronei oti h EEXI
symainei Enosh Ellhnon Xrhston Internet kai oti einai mh kerdoskopikos
organismos kai endiaferetai  gia  thn prooQhsh tou Internet sthn Ellada
kai protrepei na pame...
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Mail C D E ...: Mails ta opoia anaferontai genika gia to Qema opos
apopseis gia to poso Qa kostizei o OTE tora poso kostize prin klp klp 
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Symiosh:
Gia ta poio pano e-mails den exo archive... Epishs den gnorizo an
krateiete pouQena archive 
Yparxei kyndinos anakrhveias sxetika me ton ariQmo ton e-mails kai me poio
tropo eipoQhkan ta poio pano... 
Parakalo diorQosteme
Mexri edo ola kala
Me background ta prohgoumena ksekinaei to  FLAME WAR:
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Mail G:
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:48:46 +0200 (EET)
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
To: hellug at hellug.gr
Subject: Re: OTE kai HELLUG :-)

Perilhpsh: H EEXI einai enas akoma provider

Apospasmata:
H EEXI an den to kserete, para to onoma tis, einai allos enas ISP.
Den einai ayto pou fantazomaste ws "Enwsi Ellinwn xristwn Internet" giati
an
itan tha eimastan oloi grammenoi ekei, etsi?
An tithetai thema armodiotitas, einai "opoios ton peirazei"
An tithetai thema sxetikotitas, pistevw oti i FORTHnet kai i HOL einai
POLY pio
sxetikes.
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Mail F:
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:52:43 +0200 (EET)
From: Katsifos Nikolaos <bakira at new-europe.gr>
To: hellug at hellug.gr
Subject: Re: OTE kai HELLUG :-)

Perilypsh: H EEXI DEN einai enas akoma provider

Apospasmata:
Agaphte Michali
Lypame  pou Qa to po alla den ta ksereis kala ta pramata
		H EEXI --DEN EINAI ISP--....
Einai afilokerdes somatio me skopo thn prooQhsh tou Internet sthn Ellada
Den exei metoxes kai metoxous 
Exei danistikes vivliothikes 
Diorganonei seminaria -polles fores dorean- eite sta grafeia ths eite 
se ksenous xorous
Parexei sta  melh tou -kai mono- Internet dialup prosvash
eno kata kairous exei dosei se sxoleia dorean dialup  prosvash
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Mail G:
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:31:42 +0200 (EET)
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
To: hellug at hellug.gr
Subject: Re: OTE kai HELLUG :-)

Perilypsh: Apopeira sygkrishs ths EEXi me trito ISP

Apospasma:
Egw pali den lypamai pou den kserw kala ta pragmata. Antitheta XAIROMAI an
osa
les einai alitheia.
Se kamia periptwsi den ithela na thiksw tin EEXI, tin opoia kai ektimw
(kai to
exw ksanapei, des ta archives) kai me tin opoia exoume skopo ws HELLUG na
synergastoume alla... as kanoume mia sygkrisi me kapoion ISP na mou peis
ti
diafora.
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Mail H:
From: Katsifos Nikolaos <bakira at new-europe.gr>
To: hellug at hellug.gr
Subject: Re: OTE kai HELLUG :-)
Sender: hellug-owner at hellug.gr

Perilypsh: Apanthsh sthn Apopeira sygkrishs ths EEXi me trito ISP

Apospasma:
Titloi alla gia na yparxoyn  kapoio nohma 0a exei. 
Arxizoume loipon:
Den exei metoxes shmainei den endiaferetai na bgalei kerdh.
Ara oti dinei to dinei se kostos. H EEXI den endiaferetai na
bgalei kerdofores xrhseis kai oti lefta eispratei ta ependyei
se eksoplismo. Gia ayto kai me mhden kefalaio einai shmera
ayto pou einai. Akoma kai na dialy0ei, h periousia h 0a paei
anagkastika sto kratos h se koinwfelh skopo kai oxi sta melh
Ti na kanoume. An h0ele diaforetika as ginotane A.E. :)
*Enas ISP (px FORTHnet)kanei to idio? *
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Mail I:
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:43:41 -0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: kabrianis at hellug.gr
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
To: Katsifos Nikolaos <bakira at new-europe.gr>

Perilypsh: Prosipiko e-mail (s.s Ivristiko)

Apospasma: Den parapempo to ivristiko keimeno epidh eitan prosopiko
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Mail J:
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:43:15 -0000 (GMT)
From: Michalis Kabrianis <kabrianis at hellug.gr>
To: hellug at hellug.gr
Subject: Re: OTE kai HELLUG :-)

Perilipsh: Apospasmata tou e-mail #I 

Apospasma:
Na eyxaristeis tin tyxi sou pou den se eixa mprosta mou otan to egrafes
ayto,
giati enas apo tous dyo mas tha katelige sto nosokomeio. An yponnoeis
OTIDIPOTE
gia tin sxesi mou me to HELLUG, sto opoio tygxanei na prosferw kai OXI na
pairnw, na exeis ta arxidia na ertheis na mou to peis katamoutra.
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Mail K: (elpizo kai teleytao ;-))))))))
Auto pou diavazete tora
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