Metafora listwmn (as RE: PRAKTIKA PRWTHS SYNEDRIASHS D.S. HE

Michalis Kabrianis mkabrian at acropolis.net
Sun Oct 11 20:53:41 EEST 1998


> 
> Na thesw ena thema pou me afora amesa ? Me to stisimo toy kombou, metafora
> twn
> listwn (kentrikh, howto, hellug) sto mhxanima tou hellug.
> 
> Egw oso paei o kairos mporw kai prosferw ligotera sthn ypothesi Linux logo
> anelhmenwn ypoxrewswn. Pera apo to oti einai kai to poio swsto apo thn stigmh
> pou tha yparxei episimh parousia LUG, tha to zitaga kai san prosopikh xarh :
> sxedon dyo xronia exw "tsakisei" apo to agxos na prosexw ton argea gia na mhn
> minoume apo listes.
> 
> Enweitai oti tha bohthisw oso mporw perissotero (idios sto ksekinima).
> 
> Ayta, apopseis ?
> 
> I.Ioannou <roryt at hol.gr>

Loipon, Gianni.
Den soy kryboume oti to thema syzitithike, alla den katalixame se tipota giati
thelame prwta na epikoinonisoume mazi sou.
H logiki mas itan oti, eidika sta prwta bimata tou kombou, an kati doulevei
allou sosta, den to metaferoume. Se ayta ta plaisia entassontai kai oi listes,
oi opoies exoun prosferei, opos poly kala ksereis, ta megista stin synenosi -
sygkentrosi tou hellug, kai einai kalo, opos legame kai paliotera, na pesoun
katw apo mia kentriki dioikisi, (opos, gia aytous pou den kseroun, kai to
magaz, kai alla pragmata, ta opoia den yparxoun twra)
Bebaia, lambanontas ypopsin tin palaiotera ekfrastheisa epithymia sou gia
metafora tous ston kentriko mixanima (nai, to thymomaste) kai sebomenoi tin
apopsi sou kai katalabainontas apolyta tous logous gia tous opoious to zitas
(lypamai alla den thymamai an ayti i syzitisi eixe ginei se prosopiki
synomilia, i mesw listas, opote den mpainw se leptomereies gia na min
kourasoume ki olas), yparxei i thelisi, kai o xoros sto mixanima, na
metaferthoun ekei oi listes. To problima omos den einai o xoros, to problima
opos ksereis poly kala einai to administration. Gi ayto kai den "diafimisame"
thesi listman i postmaster i opos allios tha mporousame na tin poume, en
antithesei me tis theseis db-adm kai webmaster, pou ayti ti stigmi einai
"orfanes", gia na epikoinonisoume mazi sou kai na mas peis an mporeis na
exeis ayti ti thesi, kai an nai, mexri pote.

Opote, (polylogw e?) perimenoume esy na mas peis an mporeis na analabeis tin
syntirisi twn listwn aytwn sto kentriko mixanima, estw kai me boitheia. Diladi
mporeis na ksekiniseis esy me kapoion allo mazi, kai an theleis kapoia stigmi na
apoxoriseis, na exei dimiourgithei mia diadoxi katastasi. Fantazomai oti olo
kai kapoios tha yparxei, eite apo ta yparxonta meli, eite apo ta kainourgia,
pou tha exei kapoia empeiria apo mailing lists, gia na analabete
mazi ayto to ergo.

Katalabaineis bebaia oti an analabeis kati tetoio, estw kai gia mikro
diastima, tha exeis arketo treximo, gia na stithoun eks' arxis oi listes sto
hellug, na metaferthoun ta archives, kai na ksanarythmistei sosta to excite (se
synergasia me ton webmaster). Apo tin alli meria, an den mporeis na to
analabeis, tha prepei na to ksekinisei kapoios entelws apo tin arxi, me oti
problimata ayto synepagetai.

Episis, entelws pliroforiaka, ayti ti stigmi exei ginei reserved to domain
hellug.gr kai molis brethei xorigos na mas filoksenisei, tha ginei register,
gia na mpei to mixanima se leitourgia. Milame bebaia gia mia diadikasia pou,
dedomenou tou periorismenou xronou olwn mas, mporei na kratisei kai 15 meres,
kai ena mina, kai pistevw oti aytes oi problepseis einai aisiodokses (den milaw
bebaia gia tin eyresi xorigou, alla gia tin diadikasia proetoimasias tou
mixanimatos gia na mpei me asfaleia panw sto diktyo).

Michalis Kabrianis
mkabrian at acropolis.gr

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